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Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? 02:23 - Sep 3 with 14727 viewsDavillin

Polling closed. See new thread for results.
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I don't care. I'm old. I don't have to.
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Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 16:58 - Sep 3 with 1286 viewsJackoBoostardo

Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 16:53 - Sep 3 by Davillin

Classic: "And please tell me why you have the right to tell others what they can or cannot read . . . ."

O.K., I will as soon as you tell me the following:

1. Why T2E has the right to tell you -- successfully -- to remove Darran as a mod.

2. Why T2E has the right to repeatedly and viciously break the former rules of this forum and without meaningful action taken.

3a. How else I can stop T2E from insulting me and two others unabated so that about 4,000 registered poster can read it.

[To refresh your memory, I tried putting him on "ignore": I tried using the "report abuse" button; I tried bringing his rule-breaking to mods' attention in responsive posts; and I tried it in a private communication with you -- and all to no avail. I even foolishly believed that responding in kind -- but without the vile language -- would reach him, "foolishly" because he is too crude to figure that out. None of those attempts had any effect whatsoever, as he continues as before.]

3b. I am not even remotely trying to "to tell others what they can or cannot read...."

To the contrary, I have been desperately trying to get you to enforce the former rules and make T2E stop violating them and spreading his hatred for not just me, but two others as well, to about 4,000 registered posters.

It continues to astound me that I am the one primarily blamed, when all of this revolves around one poster's unacceptable bad manners.


So just to rephrase the question from Phil S in this case, 'What gives you the right to think you can police the site for the remainder of the readers? Acting as a moral crusader or grand censure if you wish?

You have no right! If we were all 'offended' by T2C he would be on everyone's blocklist. However, I personally find your posts more offensive - not necessarily in the content but more in the intended arrogant spiel in your posts.

And we're Swaaaaanseeeea Ciiiityyyy! Swaaaansseeeaaa Ciiiityyy F C! We're not necessarily the greatest team in football, the world has ever seen (but we're possibly the most honest and resilient). - On behalf of The Campaign For Realistic Crowd Chanting
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Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 17:05 - Sep 3 with 1281 views_

Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 16:53 - Sep 3 by Davillin

Classic: "And please tell me why you have the right to tell others what they can or cannot read . . . ."

O.K., I will as soon as you tell me the following:

1. Why T2E has the right to tell you -- successfully -- to remove Darran as a mod.

2. Why T2E has the right to repeatedly and viciously break the former rules of this forum and without meaningful action taken.

3a. How else I can stop T2E from insulting me and two others unabated so that about 4,000 registered poster can read it.

[To refresh your memory, I tried putting him on "ignore": I tried using the "report abuse" button; I tried bringing his rule-breaking to mods' attention in responsive posts; and I tried it in a private communication with you -- and all to no avail. I even foolishly believed that responding in kind -- but without the vile language -- would reach him, "foolishly" because he is too crude to figure that out. None of those attempts had any effect whatsoever, as he continues as before.]

3b. I am not even remotely trying to "to tell others what they can or cannot read...."

To the contrary, I have been desperately trying to get you to enforce the former rules and make T2E stop violating them and spreading his hatred for not just me, but two others as well, to about 4,000 registered posters.

It continues to astound me that I am the one primarily blamed, when all of this revolves around one poster's unacceptable bad manners.


I am taking incredamazing offence to your bold italics!!!

I along with a multitude of posters have been asking for Darran to be stepped down. You for some reason allow him to be as disrespectful and abusive as he sees fit to all and sundry and you bat not an eyelid.

Even today I have seen him drop the "c" bomb on more than one occasion.

Have you ever though that this "style" of modding - the name calling, the taunts, the humiliating may just be the reason some of our arguments have arisen???

Has that small but facking poignant notion ever crossed your self important, all conquering mind?

Tone - You are embarrassing yourself and your country like I can't even imagine to describe, bach.

Please don't put fellow Americans off from posting on here.

You're all out of time....the past was yours but the future's mine.
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Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 17:06 - Sep 3 with 1272 viewsJackfath

Have you got what it takes to be a mod T2C?

POSTER OF THE YEAR 2013. PROUD RECIPIENT OF THE SECOND PLANET SWANS LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD.
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Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 17:06 - Sep 3 with 1273 viewsDavillin

Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 16:48 - Sep 3 by swanduck

Why not put the guy on ignore and forget about it? If others are as offended and outraged by his posts as you are they can follow suit.

Getting offended on behalf of a group where the majority probably couldn't care less is pointless and this poll is just pathetic.


If you're directing that at me, I did try the "ignore" button, but he has kept on.

The concern is not whether others are "offended and outraged," but that he is broadcasting his insults about me to them.

No-one's "getting offended on behalf of a group."

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My "signature" below, but readable:

I have said many times on here that I enjoy contention in discourse. I do not, however, appreciate insults, foul language as a substitute for reason, and intentional misrepresentation of what I write.

Please don't misrepresent what I write.

I don't care. I'm old. I don't have to.
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Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 17:12 - Sep 3 with 1258 viewsPhil_S

Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 16:53 - Sep 3 by Davillin

Classic: "And please tell me why you have the right to tell others what they can or cannot read . . . ."

O.K., I will as soon as you tell me the following:

1. Why T2E has the right to tell you -- successfully -- to remove Darran as a mod.

2. Why T2E has the right to repeatedly and viciously break the former rules of this forum and without meaningful action taken.

3a. How else I can stop T2E from insulting me and two others unabated so that about 4,000 registered poster can read it.

[To refresh your memory, I tried putting him on "ignore": I tried using the "report abuse" button; I tried bringing his rule-breaking to mods' attention in responsive posts; and I tried it in a private communication with you -- and all to no avail. I even foolishly believed that responding in kind -- but without the vile language -- would reach him, "foolishly" because he is too crude to figure that out. None of those attempts had any effect whatsoever, as he continues as before.]

3b. I am not even remotely trying to "to tell others what they can or cannot read...."

To the contrary, I have been desperately trying to get you to enforce the former rules and make T2E stop violating them and spreading his hatred for not just me, but two others as well, to about 4,000 registered posters.

It continues to astound me that I am the one primarily blamed, when all of this revolves around one poster's unacceptable bad manners.


1. He didn't tell me but thanks for assuming he did.

2. You have been around these forums for long enough to know that much goes on here. It hasn't changed and personally I find you patronising people just as bad as any of the name calling that you decided to report endlessly the other day. For the record 'Fat Tony' I would imagine is a reference to a character from the Simpsons not an insult.

3. I assume you can read quite clearly or you wouldn't be posted. 4000 registered posters (its around 4400 BTW) don't read the forum you can clearly see the views on each thread. Given the numbers of people that repeat view and then take off a percentage (a decent sized one) for the people who don't care and its a few hundred people tops. If that.

3b. Oh but you are you just don't realise it. Your whole question 3a is basically about stopping him posting what others can read. They may be quite happy to read it.

Oh and kill the paranoia germ, nobody is blaming you for anything but as an experienced 'nerd board' (whoever said that earlier I liked that) user you have the ability to not read what he posts and clearly you are happy for others to do so (as you have stated in question 3b) so I am failing to see what the issue is.

That's it from me on this one or we will go around in circles and you may have the time but I sure as hell don't.

Ah and finally no matter what the result of this poll if you make the decision to stop posting that is your decision and nobody elses.

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Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 17:18 - Sep 3 with 1231 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

Good god almighty

What a thread, I thought the kids where back in school.

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Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 17:20 - Sep 3 with 1229 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 17:06 - Sep 3 by Jackfath

Have you got what it takes to be a mod T2C?


He doesn't need the adulation

Each time I go to Bedd - au........................

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Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 17:22 - Sep 3 with 1220 viewsDavillin

Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 17:05 - Sep 3 by _

I am taking incredamazing offence to your bold italics!!!

I along with a multitude of posters have been asking for Darran to be stepped down. You for some reason allow him to be as disrespectful and abusive as he sees fit to all and sundry and you bat not an eyelid.

Even today I have seen him drop the "c" bomb on more than one occasion.

Have you ever though that this "style" of modding - the name calling, the taunts, the humiliating may just be the reason some of our arguments have arisen???

Has that small but facking poignant notion ever crossed your self important, all conquering mind?

Tone - You are embarrassing yourself and your country like I can't even imagine to describe, bach.

Please don't put fellow Americans off from posting on here.


Let me show you how "incredamazingly " stupid you are [and I use "stupid" in its scientific sense, and not as an insult .

You wrote this "incredamazing" line: "You for some reason allow [Darran] to be as disrespectful and abusive as he sees fit to all and sundry and you bat not an eyelid." But you insist that you be allowed to be "as disrespectful and abusive as [you] see fit." And wildly more disrespectful and abusive as he. The term for that is "hypocrisy."

Perhaps the most hysterically funny thing you have ever posted, you poor hmour-challenged sap, is this one: "Has that small but facking poignant notion ever crossed your self important, all conquering mind?" You and you alone are the reason for, not "just some of the arguments on here," but for all of the unpleasantness that follows your every visit.

Does "America" really threaten you so intensely that you cannot stop trying to use my nationality as an insult? You are so obsessed with the fact that [shudder] "a Yank" is a better person than you can ever hope to be that it alone requires professional help.

"...nothing to look backward to with pride, And nothing to look forward to with hope, So now and never any different."

I don't care. I'm old. I don't have to.
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Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 17:30 - Sep 3 with 1206 views_

Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 17:22 - Sep 3 by Davillin

Let me show you how "incredamazingly " stupid you are [and I use "stupid" in its scientific sense, and not as an insult .

You wrote this "incredamazing" line: "You for some reason allow [Darran] to be as disrespectful and abusive as he sees fit to all and sundry and you bat not an eyelid." But you insist that you be allowed to be "as disrespectful and abusive as [you] see fit." And wildly more disrespectful and abusive as he. The term for that is "hypocrisy."

Perhaps the most hysterically funny thing you have ever posted, you poor hmour-challenged sap, is this one: "Has that small but facking poignant notion ever crossed your self important, all conquering mind?" You and you alone are the reason for, not "just some of the arguments on here," but for all of the unpleasantness that follows your every visit.

Does "America" really threaten you so intensely that you cannot stop trying to use my nationality as an insult? You are so obsessed with the fact that [shudder] "a Yank" is a better person than you can ever hope to be that it alone requires professional help.

"...nothing to look backward to with pride, And nothing to look forward to with hope, So now and never any different."


Do you look like Craig Stadler?


You're all out of time....the past was yours but the future's mine.
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Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 17:35 - Sep 3 with 1190 viewsBanosswan


Ever since my son was... never conceived, because I've never had consensual sex without money involved... I've always kind of looked at you as... a thing, that I could live next to... in accordance with state laws.
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Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 17:38 - Sep 3 with 1179 viewsBaker

This poll is getting quite close all of a sudden.

It's actually getting quite exciting as is all the 'new' posters who are logging in, especially today.

Very good of them to join us today of all days - Welcome to you all!
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May I say? what a smashing blouse you have on!

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Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 17:45 - Sep 3 with 1152 viewsJackoBoostardo

Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 17:38 - Sep 3 by Baker

This poll is getting quite close all of a sudden.

It's actually getting quite exciting as is all the 'new' posters who are logging in, especially today.

Very good of them to join us today of all days - Welcome to you all!
[Post edited 3 Sep 2014 17:50]


May not have thought strongly enough in the past to post anything, but feel strongly enough about seeing the backs of one of these two numpties to vote!

Perhaps that's where we go wrong in this country. Turnout for general elections is very poor. Perhaps we want to be voting for the person we DON'T want to be running the country as opposed to the person we DO in future! Same logic is working here!

And we're Swaaaaanseeeea Ciiiityyyy! Swaaaansseeeaaa Ciiiityyy F C! We're not necessarily the greatest team in football, the world has ever seen (but we're possibly the most honest and resilient). - On behalf of The Campaign For Realistic Crowd Chanting
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Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 17:51 - Sep 3 with 1145 viewsJackSomething

Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 17:22 - Sep 3 by Davillin

Let me show you how "incredamazingly " stupid you are [and I use "stupid" in its scientific sense, and not as an insult .

You wrote this "incredamazing" line: "You for some reason allow [Darran] to be as disrespectful and abusive as he sees fit to all and sundry and you bat not an eyelid." But you insist that you be allowed to be "as disrespectful and abusive as [you] see fit." And wildly more disrespectful and abusive as he. The term for that is "hypocrisy."

Perhaps the most hysterically funny thing you have ever posted, you poor hmour-challenged sap, is this one: "Has that small but facking poignant notion ever crossed your self important, all conquering mind?" You and you alone are the reason for, not "just some of the arguments on here," but for all of the unpleasantness that follows your every visit.

Does "America" really threaten you so intensely that you cannot stop trying to use my nationality as an insult? You are so obsessed with the fact that [shudder] "a Yank" is a better person than you can ever hope to be that it alone requires professional help.

"...nothing to look backward to with pride, And nothing to look forward to with hope, So now and never any different."


So now you're a 'better person' than T2C? Who decided that then? I'd like to know so I can find out where I rank.

You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help.

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Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 17:55 - Sep 3 with 1128 viewsJackoBoostardo

Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 17:51 - Sep 3 by JackSomething

So now you're a 'better person' than T2C? Who decided that then? I'd like to know so I can find out where I rank.


If he does rank higher in the "better person" rankings, then I'd suggest it's either a) broken or b) a pile of sh[t.

And we're Swaaaaanseeeea Ciiiityyyy! Swaaaansseeeaaa Ciiiityyy F C! We're not necessarily the greatest team in football, the world has ever seen (but we're possibly the most honest and resilient). - On behalf of The Campaign For Realistic Crowd Chanting
Poll: How could Van Persie survive such an horrific attack were it to happen again?

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Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 18:02 - Sep 3 with 1120 viewsDavillin

Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 17:12 - Sep 3 by Phil_S

1. He didn't tell me but thanks for assuming he did.

2. You have been around these forums for long enough to know that much goes on here. It hasn't changed and personally I find you patronising people just as bad as any of the name calling that you decided to report endlessly the other day. For the record 'Fat Tony' I would imagine is a reference to a character from the Simpsons not an insult.

3. I assume you can read quite clearly or you wouldn't be posted. 4000 registered posters (its around 4400 BTW) don't read the forum you can clearly see the views on each thread. Given the numbers of people that repeat view and then take off a percentage (a decent sized one) for the people who don't care and its a few hundred people tops. If that.

3b. Oh but you are you just don't realise it. Your whole question 3a is basically about stopping him posting what others can read. They may be quite happy to read it.

Oh and kill the paranoia germ, nobody is blaming you for anything but as an experienced 'nerd board' (whoever said that earlier I liked that) user you have the ability to not read what he posts and clearly you are happy for others to do so (as you have stated in question 3b) so I am failing to see what the issue is.

That's it from me on this one or we will go around in circles and you may have the time but I sure as hell don't.

Ah and finally no matter what the result of this poll if you make the decision to stop posting that is your decision and nobody elses.

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Oh, fuching Hell! I have to start with my "signature" and not end with it:

I have said many times on here that I enjoy contention in discourse. I do not, however, appreciate insults, foul language as a substitute for reason, and intentional misrepresentation of what I write [emphasis added].

It is the abject misrepresentations in your post that I must address. My first inclination was to simply ignore them, but they are so blatant and so much at the very heart of this unfortunate thread that I have no alternative.

1. Are you quibbling over the words "tell me"? For shame. I can't count the number of times he specifically wrote that he wanted Darran removed as a moderator. Who else could that possibly be addressed to but you? He also wrote that after his recent "conversation" with you, you would remove Darran as mod. It's no coincidence that that came true.

2. My "patronizing" aside, as well beside the point, I used the words "about 4,000 posters" because YOU used "about 4,000 posters."

3. Of all of the posts that I reported with the "report abuse" feature -- as formerly required by your site -- and nearly every one of them of viles depravity, you pick the one where he called me "Fat Tony." I'm beginning to wonder whether you reed any ot the others.

3a. There is no sane way to conclude from anything I have posted -- or even wrote in a p.m. to you, for that matter -- that this is "basically about stopping him posting what others can read." Please don't misrepresent what I wrote, as I have enough to do with people chastizing me for what I do write. I have never even suggested that he be stopped from posting , only that he be made to follow the former forum rules and stop insulting me and two others in such vile language that even a child will recognize as improper.

Now you say that I'm paranoid for reading and understanding the very words several posters who have written, almost in your very own words, that this is all my fault. More misrepresentation

Inasmuch as you "fail to see what the issue is," .please let me clear that up for about the 20th time. T2C repeatedly and in the most foul language insults me -- gratuitously and unprovoked, I must add -- and two other posters, and despite those posts being blatantly against the former rules of this forum, and despite my trying every means I have available, you have not stopped him.

Although you and some others put the whole blame on me, and although I have heretofore tried to persuade them and you that the whole blame falls on the instigator, T2E himself, I am now inclined to believe that the whole blame falls on whoever has the ability to stop T2C' inflammatory posts, but has failed to do so.

So, with your having ended this exchange for your not having the time, we'll have to submit the finding of fact to the jury of the posters.
[Post edited 3 Sep 2014 18:28]

I don't care. I'm old. I don't have to.
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Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 18:09 - Sep 3 with 1107 viewsswanduck

Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 17:06 - Sep 3 by Davillin

If you're directing that at me, I did try the "ignore" button, but he has kept on.

The concern is not whether others are "offended and outraged," but that he is broadcasting his insults about me to them.

No-one's "getting offended on behalf of a group."

______________
My "signature" below, but readable:

I have said many times on here that I enjoy contention in discourse. I do not, however, appreciate insults, foul language as a substitute for reason, and intentional misrepresentation of what I write.

Please don't misrepresent what I write.


wow just grow a pair get over it
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Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 18:16 - Sep 3 with 1085 viewsJackSomething

Dav, you seem to think this poll is going to mean something. Phil has made it clear it doesn't.

For what it's worth, after his ban ended, the posts I saw from T2C were abuse free. Then you baited him, knowing how he'd respond.

Also, no matter the result of this meaningless poll, it would be interesting to find out how many votes are from new posters and who they were voting for...

You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help.

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Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 18:17 - Sep 3 with 1085 viewsDavillin

Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 17:30 - Sep 3 by _

Do you look like Craig Stadler?



No. He outweighs me by at least a hundred pounds.

Are you dumber than his driver? Dumber than his whole bag of clubs.

Fool!

I don't care. I'm old. I don't have to.
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Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 18:17 - Sep 3 with 1075 viewsShaky

Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 18:02 - Sep 3 by Davillin

Oh, fuching Hell! I have to start with my "signature" and not end with it:

I have said many times on here that I enjoy contention in discourse. I do not, however, appreciate insults, foul language as a substitute for reason, and intentional misrepresentation of what I write [emphasis added].

It is the abject misrepresentations in your post that I must address. My first inclination was to simply ignore them, but they are so blatant and so much at the very heart of this unfortunate thread that I have no alternative.

1. Are you quibbling over the words "tell me"? For shame. I can't count the number of times he specifically wrote that he wanted Darran removed as a moderator. Who else could that possibly be addressed to but you? He also wrote that after his recent "conversation" with you, you would remove Darran as mod. It's no coincidence that that came true.

2. My "patronizing" aside, as well beside the point, I used the words "about 4,000 posters" because YOU used "about 4,000 posters."

3. Of all of the posts that I reported with the "report abuse" feature -- as formerly required by your site -- and nearly every one of them of viles depravity, you pick the one where he called me "Fat Tony." I'm beginning to wonder whether you reed any ot the others.

3a. There is no sane way to conclude from anything I have posted -- or even wrote in a p.m. to you, for that matter -- that this is "basically about stopping him posting what others can read." Please don't misrepresent what I wrote, as I have enough to do with people chastizing me for what I do write. I have never even suggested that he be stopped from posting , only that he be made to follow the former forum rules and stop insulting me and two others in such vile language that even a child will recognize as improper.

Now you say that I'm paranoid for reading and understanding the very words several posters who have written, almost in your very own words, that this is all my fault. More misrepresentation

Inasmuch as you "fail to see what the issue is," .please let me clear that up for about the 20th time. T2C repeatedly and in the most foul language insults me -- gratuitously and unprovoked, I must add -- and two other posters, and despite those posts being blatantly against the former rules of this forum, and despite my trying every means I have available, you have not stopped him.

Although you and some others put the whole blame on me, and although I have heretofore tried to persuade them and you that the whole blame falls on the instigator, T2E himself, I am now inclined to believe that the whole blame falls on whoever has the ability to stop T2C' inflammatory posts, but has failed to do so.

So, with your having ended this exchange for your not having the time, we'll have to submit the finding of fact to the jury of the posters.
[Post edited 3 Sep 2014 18:28]


Not necessarily, St Davlon.

Phil could still ban you.

Misology -- It's a bitch
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Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 18:18 - Sep 3 with 1078 views_

Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 18:02 - Sep 3 by Davillin

Oh, fuching Hell! I have to start with my "signature" and not end with it:

I have said many times on here that I enjoy contention in discourse. I do not, however, appreciate insults, foul language as a substitute for reason, and intentional misrepresentation of what I write [emphasis added].

It is the abject misrepresentations in your post that I must address. My first inclination was to simply ignore them, but they are so blatant and so much at the very heart of this unfortunate thread that I have no alternative.

1. Are you quibbling over the words "tell me"? For shame. I can't count the number of times he specifically wrote that he wanted Darran removed as a moderator. Who else could that possibly be addressed to but you? He also wrote that after his recent "conversation" with you, you would remove Darran as mod. It's no coincidence that that came true.

2. My "patronizing" aside, as well beside the point, I used the words "about 4,000 posters" because YOU used "about 4,000 posters."

3. Of all of the posts that I reported with the "report abuse" feature -- as formerly required by your site -- and nearly every one of them of viles depravity, you pick the one where he called me "Fat Tony." I'm beginning to wonder whether you reed any ot the others.

3a. There is no sane way to conclude from anything I have posted -- or even wrote in a p.m. to you, for that matter -- that this is "basically about stopping him posting what others can read." Please don't misrepresent what I wrote, as I have enough to do with people chastizing me for what I do write. I have never even suggested that he be stopped from posting , only that he be made to follow the former forum rules and stop insulting me and two others in such vile language that even a child will recognize as improper.

Now you say that I'm paranoid for reading and understanding the very words several posters who have written, almost in your very own words, that this is all my fault. More misrepresentation

Inasmuch as you "fail to see what the issue is," .please let me clear that up for about the 20th time. T2C repeatedly and in the most foul language insults me -- gratuitously and unprovoked, I must add -- and two other posters, and despite those posts being blatantly against the former rules of this forum, and despite my trying every means I have available, you have not stopped him.

Although you and some others put the whole blame on me, and although I have heretofore tried to persuade them and you that the whole blame falls on the instigator, T2E himself, I am now inclined to believe that the whole blame falls on whoever has the ability to stop T2C' inflammatory posts, but has failed to do so.

So, with your having ended this exchange for your not having the time, we'll have to submit the finding of fact to the jury of the posters.
[Post edited 3 Sep 2014 18:28]


It's the Graphs innit...

be honest....

Those lines things that looked like join the dots that didn't say or do anything ?!

You've not been the same since.

Serious question - are you on medication because I am becoming very concerned about your state of mind and overall health?

You're all out of time....the past was yours but the future's mine.
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Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 18:19 - Sep 3 with 1088 viewsPhil_S

Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 18:02 - Sep 3 by Davillin

Oh, fuching Hell! I have to start with my "signature" and not end with it:

I have said many times on here that I enjoy contention in discourse. I do not, however, appreciate insults, foul language as a substitute for reason, and intentional misrepresentation of what I write [emphasis added].

It is the abject misrepresentations in your post that I must address. My first inclination was to simply ignore them, but they are so blatant and so much at the very heart of this unfortunate thread that I have no alternative.

1. Are you quibbling over the words "tell me"? For shame. I can't count the number of times he specifically wrote that he wanted Darran removed as a moderator. Who else could that possibly be addressed to but you? He also wrote that after his recent "conversation" with you, you would remove Darran as mod. It's no coincidence that that came true.

2. My "patronizing" aside, as well beside the point, I used the words "about 4,000 posters" because YOU used "about 4,000 posters."

3. Of all of the posts that I reported with the "report abuse" feature -- as formerly required by your site -- and nearly every one of them of viles depravity, you pick the one where he called me "Fat Tony." I'm beginning to wonder whether you reed any ot the others.

3a. There is no sane way to conclude from anything I have posted -- or even wrote in a p.m. to you, for that matter -- that this is "basically about stopping him posting what others can read." Please don't misrepresent what I wrote, as I have enough to do with people chastizing me for what I do write. I have never even suggested that he be stopped from posting , only that he be made to follow the former forum rules and stop insulting me and two others in such vile language that even a child will recognize as improper.

Now you say that I'm paranoid for reading and understanding the very words several posters who have written, almost in your very own words, that this is all my fault. More misrepresentation

Inasmuch as you "fail to see what the issue is," .please let me clear that up for about the 20th time. T2C repeatedly and in the most foul language insults me -- gratuitously and unprovoked, I must add -- and two other posters, and despite those posts being blatantly against the former rules of this forum, and despite my trying every means I have available, you have not stopped him.

Although you and some others put the whole blame on me, and although I have heretofore tried to persuade them and you that the whole blame falls on the instigator, T2E himself, I am now inclined to believe that the whole blame falls on whoever has the ability to stop T2C' inflammatory posts, but has failed to do so.

So, with your having ended this exchange for your not having the time, we'll have to submit the finding of fact to the jury of the posters.
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The other day you sent me a PM asking me 'did I find it funny'

I didn't then. I do now as I cannot believe that one person can get so wound up by it all and have the inability to see any weakness in what he posts himself

Good luck Tony in whatever you decide to do as a result of this pointless poll that tells me nothing. This really is my final word no matter how many times you use bold and italics in your posts

However like it or not it is about stopping him writing what others can post as you can elect to not read it you choose to read it because you want to. Nobody else really cares.

As Perchie likes to say FIN
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Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 18:25 - Sep 3 with 1077 viewsDavillin

Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 17:51 - Sep 3 by JackSomething

So now you're a 'better person' than T2C? Who decided that then? I'd like to know so I can find out where I rank.


No-one's "ranked" him but himself, and he ranks himself repeatedly. I simply report his findings.

If you have been reading his posts and mine since he came back a few weeks ago to torment us, and you don't actively agree with me, then I might have to have a worry about you.

There is no ranking.except his, so don't look tome to rank you. [As an aside, I hesitatingly use the "i" word. You are not, never have been, and surely never will be, on my "ignore" list. That's all the help I can give you in your dilemma.]

I don't care. I'm old. I don't have to.
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Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 18:26 - Sep 3 with 1071 viewsjack247

I have only got back into this site in the last week or so, not having been on since it was jackarmy

I appreciate there has clearly been a lot which I haven't seen, but all the antagonising here seems to come from Davillin, who then presents himself as a victim. If The Second Coming has been fishing for bites, he has caught himself an absolute whopper!
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Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 18:27 - Sep 3 with 1060 viewsJackoBoostardo

Ultimately this is just a pointless thread about Davillin trying to impose his rule and preventing other person(s) doing what they have every right to do under their freedom of speech.

Think this sums it up well.

End thread now? (vote still counts however?)

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Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 18:32 - Sep 3 with 1054 viewsHighjack

Which of these two should be banned permanently from PlanetSwans? on 18:17 - Sep 3 by Davillin

No. He outweighs me by at least a hundred pounds.

Are you dumber than his driver? Dumber than his whole bag of clubs.

Fool!


For some reason I read that in Ian Mckellan Gandalf's voice.

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