| This jackarmy site 21:22 - Feb 9 with 40707 views | perchrockjack |
Some alarming stuff on there..
Very disconcerting
Seems we basically have directors and a trust that cannot be trusted.
Well, are we in shite or not |  |
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| This jackarmy site on 21:24 - Feb 9 with 5525 views | waynekerr55 |
I think the answer lies somewhere in the middle Perch. We as fans have a right to ask questions, and it's silly to blindly trust anyone.
That said I trust the TRUST to make the right decisions. I hope this takeover issue increases people who are fully paid up members of the trust. I'm hoping to get back for the Friday event.
BTW are you banned from TJA site? |  |
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| This jackarmy site on 21:27 - Feb 9 with 5500 views | perchrockjack |
Probably, but I ll not go on there out of choice.
Have to say that there is asking questions and asking questions.
Questions aren't asked really ,just slagging off phil sumbler and directors. | |
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| This jackarmy site on 21:28 - Feb 9 with 5477 views | waynekerr55 |
| This jackarmy site on 21:27 - Feb 9 by perchrockjack |
Probably, but I ll not go on there out of choice.
Have to say that there is asking questions and asking questions.
Questions aren't asked really ,just slagging off phil sumbler and directors. |
Yeah, I get what you mean. I hope this investment talk doesn't cause a split in the ranks. We've achieved what we have due to unity. | |
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| This jackarmy site on 21:29 - Feb 9 with 5465 views | Parlay |
I think the right questions are being asked. When money comes into it then you cant trust anybody as far as I'm concerned.
And the problem is that our trust director has hefty yearly contract with the club for his personal business (printing?). Which goes without saying is a clash of thought. If the fans have a real issue then how much would he want to press it or fight against the grain if 100k a year or whatever it is of personal money is on the line.
Nobody is accusing the trust of anything other than having a scenario where a clash of thought has become apparent.
(Not in the criminal sense but in the personal human instinct sense) [Post edited 10 Feb 2015 2:07]
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| This jackarmy site on 21:29 - Feb 9 with 5469 views | Gretsch |
People want to remember who the trust were when we weren't A billy big bollucks club, when you had to pay to join the trust if you wanted to. To help the swans keep their 20% because you wanted to help the club and it was only a few seasons ago. People like Phil (who I don't know and have never met) were in fairness bothered to get off their arse and do whatever they could to HELP the club, I was happy to hand over my tenner and sell my raffles and sit on my arse, so I am greatful to people who put in an effort.
Some people just disrespect or can't remember the past. But all to their own opinions. |  | | |
| This jackarmy site on 21:31 - Feb 9 with 5451 views | Darran |
| This jackarmy site on 21:29 - Feb 9 by Gretsch |
People want to remember who the trust were when we weren't A billy big bollucks club, when you had to pay to join the trust if you wanted to. To help the swans keep their 20% because you wanted to help the club and it was only a few seasons ago. People like Phil (who I don't know and have never met) were in fairness bothered to get off their arse and do whatever they could to HELP the club, I was happy to hand over my tenner and sell my raffles and sit on my arse, so I am greatful to people who put in an effort.
Some people just disrespect or can't remember the past. But all to their own opinions. |
Spot on. |  |
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| This jackarmy site on 21:33 - Feb 9 with 5440 views | perchrockjack |
We have a chasm Wayne.
Many seem to be laudrup bitches.
I've never been so confident of the people running of our club.
I don't believe they lll shaft us which is the naked accusation on that site.
We Ve had buffoons before, these aren't. | |
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| This jackarmy site on 21:35 - Feb 9 with 5411 views | waynekerr55 |
| This jackarmy site on 21:33 - Feb 9 by perchrockjack |
We have a chasm Wayne.
Many seem to be laudrup bitches.
I've never been so confident of the people running of our club.
I don't believe they lll shaft us which is the naked accusation on that site.
We Ve had buffoons before, these aren't. |
Laudrup was brilliant up until the COC. Then the wheels fell off bar a couple of 'one off' performances.
We certainly weren't travelling in the right direction (IMO anyway). I do think that money can poison people, and I hope it won't in this case.
As I've said, more people MUST join and pay their £10 subs | |
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| This jackarmy site on 21:39 - Feb 9 with 5376 views | Jackfath |
Pippy should put a link up to the relevant section of the trust site and make it a sticky.
That way more and more people will pay their tenners. init. |  |
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| This jackarmy site on 21:39 - Feb 9 with 5376 views | perchrockjack |
Have to say you can only judge people on what uou know of them.
Sumbler has been pre eminent in saving our club so sorry I won't see him ridiculed as he s being.
Truly we are playing with fire by looking at a crisis that isn't there and reading the ja post we are | |
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| This jackarmy site on 21:40 - Feb 9 with 5367 views | Gretsch |
The problem with groups and cliques they destroy rather than build.
If anyone needs to know how big a FAN Huw is, watch Jack Army, he isn't just some guy with the reins he is a fan. | | | |
| This jackarmy site on 21:41 - Feb 9 with 5356 views | waynekerr55 |
| This jackarmy site on 21:39 - Feb 9 by Jackfath |
Pippy should put a link up to the relevant section of the trust site and make it a sticky.
That way more and more people will pay their tenners. init. |
Needs doing Fath.
Great post, although no doubt someone will say you're on a wind up... | |
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| This jackarmy site on 21:41 - Feb 9 with 5355 views | skippyjack |
The trust are against the takeover.. but the affiliation between the trust board members and the club directors goes back 13 years.. even if the takeover happens it'll be beneficial for the City.. |  |
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| This jackarmy site on 21:42 - Feb 9 with 5339 views | Parlay |
| This jackarmy site on 21:40 - Feb 9 by Gretsch |
The problem with groups and cliques they destroy rather than build.
If anyone needs to know how big a FAN Huw is, watch Jack Army, he isn't just some guy with the reins he is a fan. |
The problem be it, if he sells to the Americans then it doesn't matter how much of a fan he is, he aint the shareholder any more and wont be making the decisions.
Anybody who thinks the yanks are coming on board for 30% are mad. They want control otherwise what is the point? 30% is the opening gambit and would bet anything anyone would wish on that. | |
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| This jackarmy site on 21:49 - Feb 9 with 5295 views | Neath_Jack |
| This jackarmy site on 21:39 - Feb 9 by Jackfath |
Pippy should put a link up to the relevant section of the trust site and make it a sticky.
That way more and more people will pay their tenners. init. |
I suggested months ago that the best place for advertising, is at the match.
A couple of banners (I'm sure there may be a printer person linked to the Trust who can give them a "good" deal) placed in prominent places on the concourse, with a couple of Trust reps below them to offer advice and give information, and sign them up there and then (if that's possible). It's where people congregate, with their mates, fellow fans, a great topic of conversation and there's the peer pressure element of it. Add in some will have had a few sherberts, so will be more likely to part with their hard earned.
Unfortunately it was dismissed out of hand. |  |
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| This jackarmy site on 21:50 - Feb 9 with 5288 views | Gretsch |
Fair point but I personally believe he has the interests of the club at heart, and isn't a mercenary and would do the right thing for the club.
If the American investment is made of course it may end up a take over, but they want to take over a club in the Premier surely, and don't want a club to drive it into The Championship and lower.
Yes I know about Tan but I belive our board are a little bit different from others, time will tell though. | | | |
| This jackarmy site on 21:52 - Feb 9 with 5269 views | Gretsch |
| This jackarmy site on 21:49 - Feb 9 by Neath_Jack |
I suggested months ago that the best place for advertising, is at the match.
A couple of banners (I'm sure there may be a printer person linked to the Trust who can give them a "good" deal) placed in prominent places on the concourse, with a couple of Trust reps below them to offer advice and give information, and sign them up there and then (if that's possible). It's where people congregate, with their mates, fellow fans, a great topic of conversation and there's the peer pressure element of it. Add in some will have had a few sherberts, so will be more likely to part with their hard earned.
Unfortunately it was dismissed out of hand. |
Few handouts in the fans boozers, probably a hundred people in the Landore club on match day maybe more. | | | |
| This jackarmy site on 21:54 - Feb 9 with 5249 views | skippyjack |
| This jackarmy site on 21:42 - Feb 9 by Parlay |
The problem be it, if he sells to the Americans then it doesn't matter how much of a fan he is, he aint the shareholder any more and wont be making the decisions.
Anybody who thinks the yanks are coming on board for 30% are mad. They want control otherwise what is the point? 30% is the opening gambit and would bet anything anyone would wish on that. |
As I said months ago.. we will probably buy the Stadium.. sell 30% and the Stadium naming rights goes to the 'investors'.. plus our affiliation with our in debt council (f*ck knows how we're in 80 million debt mind..freebies?..oh well).. and the fact it'll enhance the selling Directors other business ventures which also has an affiliation with the City..
This move is for the benefit of the City.. plus our new University Campus and the links our club has with the educational system in Swansea.. plus this American investor has previous for University improvements.. this takeover isn't just about the club.. it involves a lot of things. | |
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| This jackarmy site on 21:56 - Feb 9 with 5235 views | skippyjack |
| This jackarmy site on 21:39 - Feb 9 by Jackfath |
Pippy should put a link up to the relevant section of the trust site and make it a sticky.
That way more and more people will pay their tenners. init. |
F*ck off.. I've already given them my unskilled, uneducated views.. they owe me a tenner. | |
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| This jackarmy site on 21:58 - Feb 9 with 5215 views | ApeShit |
| This jackarmy site on 21:49 - Feb 9 by Neath_Jack |
I suggested months ago that the best place for advertising, is at the match.
A couple of banners (I'm sure there may be a printer person linked to the Trust who can give them a "good" deal) placed in prominent places on the concourse, with a couple of Trust reps below them to offer advice and give information, and sign them up there and then (if that's possible). It's where people congregate, with their mates, fellow fans, a great topic of conversation and there's the peer pressure element of it. Add in some will have had a few sherberts, so will be more likely to part with their hard earned.
Unfortunately it was dismissed out of hand. |
What about the LED boards facing the crowd?  |  | | |
| This jackarmy site on 22:00 - Feb 9 with 5194 views | Neath_Jack |
| This jackarmy site on 21:40 - Feb 9 by Gretsch |
The problem with groups and cliques they destroy rather than build.
If anyone needs to know how big a FAN Huw is, watch Jack Army, he isn't just some guy with the reins he is a fan. |
I don't think anyone is doubting his fandom.
There is clearly a conflict of interest though and anyone who tries to say any different is being very silly. | |
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| This jackarmy site on 22:01 - Feb 9 with 5184 views | Neath_Jack |
| This jackarmy site on 21:58 - Feb 9 by ApeShit |
What about the LED boards facing the crowd? |
Can't see them from our seats, they're too dim mun.
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| This jackarmy site on 22:02 - Feb 9 with 5179 views | skippyjack |
| This jackarmy site on 22:00 - Feb 9 by Neath_Jack |
I don't think anyone is doubting his fandom.
There is clearly a conflict of interest though and anyone who tries to say any different is being very silly. |
It's not a conflict of interest.. Leigh Dineen and T2C clarified what they did or do. | |
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| This jackarmy site on 22:07 - Feb 9 with 5152 views | Gretsch |
| This jackarmy site on 22:00 - Feb 9 by Neath_Jack |
I don't think anyone is doubting his fandom.
There is clearly a conflict of interest though and anyone who tries to say any different is being very silly. |
I am talking of the Laudrup gang, and the Monk hating gang, anf the Sumbler haters etc., and those with agendas to be leaders that no one necessarily wants.
In who else do we trust, we have a chairman who is a fan of the club, many/most of the executive are fans or people who put their hands in their picket to save us, and we have a trust who are obviously fans. Money can easily corrupt but I would rather have what we have rather than a Risdale or an Ashleigh etc. | | | |
| This jackarmy site on 22:07 - Feb 9 with 5139 views | Parlay |
| This jackarmy site on 22:02 - Feb 9 by skippyjack |
It's not a conflict of interest.. Leigh Dineen and T2C clarified what they did or do. |
Of course there is clash of thought though.
Huw Cooze has been paid 400k by the club over the last 3 years into his personal business. 400k!
Thats an awful big incentive to toe the party line. [Post edited 10 Feb 2015 2:08]
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