| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 11:39 - Sep 22 with 8937 views | Darran |
When I was in London in June they were outstanding. |  |
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| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 11:43 - Sep 22 with 8932 views | Pegojack |
What's the issue or issues on which this decision has been made? Anyone know? Genuine question. |  | | |
| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 11:44 - Sep 22 with 8931 views | swanjackal |
| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 11:39 - Sep 22 by Darran |
When I was in London in June they were outstanding. |
With all the exaggeration in other threads, a bit hyperbolic. Outstanding my arse.
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| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 11:47 - Sep 22 with 8925 views | Darran |
| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 11:44 - Sep 22 by swanjackal |
With all the exaggeration in other threads, a bit hyperbolic. Outstanding my arse.
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They were though it was lashing down with rain and they saved us looking for a black cab. | |
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| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 11:53 - Sep 22 with 8917 views | swanjackal |
| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 11:47 - Sep 22 by Darran |
They were though it was lashing down with rain and they saved us looking for a black cab. |
So they are the "Bony" of personal transport hire? | |
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| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 12:02 - Sep 22 with 8899 views | Darran |
| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 11:53 - Sep 22 by swanjackal |
So they are the "Bony" of personal transport hire? |
No further comment. | |
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| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 12:04 - Sep 22 with 8894 views | londonlisa2001 |
| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 11:43 - Sep 22 by Pegojack |
What's the issue or issues on which this decision has been made? Anyone know? Genuine question. |
Because they been asked and asked to start giving some sort of toss for the safety of their customers by carrying out even basic criminal background checks on their drivers, to provide some sort of regulation, to stop using tragedy to make more money, to pay some sort of tax, to provide any type of basic employment protection for the 40,000 drivers in London that work for them, and they've always laughed in the face of the requests, with a billy big bo****s attitude of 'there's nothing you can do about it'.
Well they're not laughing now are they. They didn't think for one minute that the Mayor would have the bottle to do this.
They will now have to change the way they operate to get their licence back. About time.
And I say all this as someone that thinks black cab drivers in London deserve to get their backsides kicked all the way to South of the River.
But any local mini cab service wouldn't get away with zero regulation of their drivers, so why the hell should uber, just because they've (ooh), got an app and reckon they're a 'tech' company. No you're not, you're a taxi firm, so behave like one.
Funnily enough, the argument about them not really being a taxi company will be exposed now for the myth it is as they'll find their app is pretty worthless in London from next week on. |  | | |
| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 12:06 - Sep 22 with 8887 views | swanjackal |
| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 12:02 - Sep 22 by Darran |
No further comment. |
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| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 12:18 - Sep 22 with 8869 views | Mo_Wives |
| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 12:04 - Sep 22 by londonlisa2001 |
Because they been asked and asked to start giving some sort of toss for the safety of their customers by carrying out even basic criminal background checks on their drivers, to provide some sort of regulation, to stop using tragedy to make more money, to pay some sort of tax, to provide any type of basic employment protection for the 40,000 drivers in London that work for them, and they've always laughed in the face of the requests, with a billy big bo****s attitude of 'there's nothing you can do about it'.
Well they're not laughing now are they. They didn't think for one minute that the Mayor would have the bottle to do this.
They will now have to change the way they operate to get their licence back. About time.
And I say all this as someone that thinks black cab drivers in London deserve to get their backsides kicked all the way to South of the River.
But any local mini cab service wouldn't get away with zero regulation of their drivers, so why the hell should uber, just because they've (ooh), got an app and reckon they're a 'tech' company. No you're not, you're a taxi firm, so behave like one.
Funnily enough, the argument about them not really being a taxi company will be exposed now for the myth it is as they'll find their app is pretty worthless in London from next week on. |
TRIGGER....Ah, f*ck it....never mind.  |  |
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| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 12:27 - Sep 22 with 8850 views | Meraki |
| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 12:04 - Sep 22 by londonlisa2001 |
Because they been asked and asked to start giving some sort of toss for the safety of their customers by carrying out even basic criminal background checks on their drivers, to provide some sort of regulation, to stop using tragedy to make more money, to pay some sort of tax, to provide any type of basic employment protection for the 40,000 drivers in London that work for them, and they've always laughed in the face of the requests, with a billy big bo****s attitude of 'there's nothing you can do about it'.
Well they're not laughing now are they. They didn't think for one minute that the Mayor would have the bottle to do this.
They will now have to change the way they operate to get their licence back. About time.
And I say all this as someone that thinks black cab drivers in London deserve to get their backsides kicked all the way to South of the River.
But any local mini cab service wouldn't get away with zero regulation of their drivers, so why the hell should uber, just because they've (ooh), got an app and reckon they're a 'tech' company. No you're not, you're a taxi firm, so behave like one.
Funnily enough, the argument about them not really being a taxi company will be exposed now for the myth it is as they'll find their app is pretty worthless in London from next week on. |
So effectively this will end in job losses of about 40,000 people?
Shiiiiiiiit. | | | |
| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 12:27 - Sep 22 with 8849 views | londonlisa2001 |
| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 12:18 - Sep 22 by Mo_Wives |
TRIGGER....Ah, f*ck it....never mind. |
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You seem to be losing the plot moflake. I was explaining the background to the decision. Doesn't matter to me one way or another. But I'm amused by the number of people that 'support good employment practices' and 'want people to be put before profits' until it comes to spending an extra fiver on a cab ride home. That's pretty funny. | | | |
| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 12:35 - Sep 22 with 8835 views | Pegojack |
| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 12:04 - Sep 22 by londonlisa2001 |
Because they been asked and asked to start giving some sort of toss for the safety of their customers by carrying out even basic criminal background checks on their drivers, to provide some sort of regulation, to stop using tragedy to make more money, to pay some sort of tax, to provide any type of basic employment protection for the 40,000 drivers in London that work for them, and they've always laughed in the face of the requests, with a billy big bo****s attitude of 'there's nothing you can do about it'.
Well they're not laughing now are they. They didn't think for one minute that the Mayor would have the bottle to do this.
They will now have to change the way they operate to get their licence back. About time.
And I say all this as someone that thinks black cab drivers in London deserve to get their backsides kicked all the way to South of the River.
But any local mini cab service wouldn't get away with zero regulation of their drivers, so why the hell should uber, just because they've (ooh), got an app and reckon they're a 'tech' company. No you're not, you're a taxi firm, so behave like one.
Funnily enough, the argument about them not really being a taxi company will be exposed now for the myth it is as they'll find their app is pretty worthless in London from next week on. |
Thank you, Lisa, for the comprehensive reply. I did a bit of reading of t'internet myself to check out the background, so now I can see what you mean. I see the GMB were very big movers regarding petitioning TFL to make this decision.
Not that I'm in London very often and never use cabs, but I fully support the decision for all the reasons you mention.
As for Uber, f*ck 'em.
PS No doubt the usual 'defenders of free enterprise' will be along in a minute. [Post edited 22 Sep 2017 12:36]
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| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 12:38 - Sep 22 with 8828 views | Mo_Wives |
| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 12:27 - Sep 22 by londonlisa2001 |
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You seem to be losing the plot moflake. I was explaining the background to the decision. Doesn't matter to me one way or another. But I'm amused by the number of people that 'support good employment practices' and 'want people to be put before profits' until it comes to spending an extra fiver on a cab ride home. That's pretty funny. |
Au contraire, Mary Shitehouse. It was meant to be a friendly joke. It's why I added this little fella: I apologise, next time I shall be more clear. | |
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| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 13:29 - Sep 22 with 8743 views | londonlisa2001 |
| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 12:27 - Sep 22 by Meraki |
So effectively this will end in job losses of about 40,000 people?
Shiiiiiiiit. |
I doubt it very much.
All those 40,000 weren't 'employed' anyway of course...
The result of this will be Uber will finally do the things they've been given the past few years to do voluntarily when they couldn't be bothered because they were 'too big to be told what to do' and will get their licence back. They may take employment regulations and the safety of their customers a bit more seriously now.
They're a really wan*y organisation. I'm massively in favour of free enterprise and the breaking of the ridiculous monopoly that the black cabs have had in London but the creation of a private monopoly that has less regulation and thinks they can behave how they want doesn't help anyone. | | | |
| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 13:33 - Sep 22 with 8728 views | londonlisa2001 |
| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 12:35 - Sep 22 by Pegojack |
Thank you, Lisa, for the comprehensive reply. I did a bit of reading of t'internet myself to check out the background, so now I can see what you mean. I see the GMB were very big movers regarding petitioning TFL to make this decision.
Not that I'm in London very often and never use cabs, but I fully support the decision for all the reasons you mention.
As for Uber, f*ck 'em.
PS No doubt the usual 'defenders of free enterprise' will be along in a minute. [Post edited 22 Sep 2017 12:36]
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The down side of the decision is that it will make the black cab drivers and the GMB very happy. Because they also need to look at themselves and their service.
But what Uber have been able to get away with for so long is a scandal.
They'll be back in no time, but with more regulation, which will help everyone. | | | |
| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 13:58 - Sep 22 with 8682 views | Pegojack |
| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 13:33 - Sep 22 by londonlisa2001 |
The down side of the decision is that it will make the black cab drivers and the GMB very happy. Because they also need to look at themselves and their service.
But what Uber have been able to get away with for so long is a scandal.
They'll be back in no time, but with more regulation, which will help everyone. |
I was reading on t'internet earlier that there is another firm, Mytaxi, which operates as per Uber but obeying all the regulations, is that right? | | | |
| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 14:14 - Sep 22 with 8657 views | londonlisa2001 |
| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 13:58 - Sep 22 by Pegojack |
I was reading on t'internet earlier that there is another firm, Mytaxi, which operates as per Uber but obeying all the regulations, is that right? |
Yeah - they're the app for the black cabs and have just cut their fares by 50% in response.
Uber will still operate anyway while their appeal happens - they won't stop, they'll just realise that fobbing off the regulator isn't as funny as they thought. They've sent out an email already asking for people to sign a petition. Sent of course from Amsterdam where they are 'based' to avoid paying any tax. The funny bit is it mentions putting 40,000 drivers out of work, when for the past few years they've argued blind that the drivers don't work for them.
I'm as right wing as it gets on competition, breaking of monopolies, provision of a service for a better price and allowing the market to sort itself out, but any company that consistently refuses to allow the police to check drivers, pay tax, employ people properly etc deserve what they get in my view. They just never believed that the regulator would actually regulate them. They always thought Khan would bottle it. Now they know he won't and it's better for all of us. | | | |
| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 14:17 - Sep 22 with 8649 views | macthejack |
| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 12:04 - Sep 22 by londonlisa2001 |
Because they been asked and asked to start giving some sort of toss for the safety of their customers by carrying out even basic criminal background checks on their drivers, to provide some sort of regulation, to stop using tragedy to make more money, to pay some sort of tax, to provide any type of basic employment protection for the 40,000 drivers in London that work for them, and they've always laughed in the face of the requests, with a billy big bo****s attitude of 'there's nothing you can do about it'.
Well they're not laughing now are they. They didn't think for one minute that the Mayor would have the bottle to do this.
They will now have to change the way they operate to get their licence back. About time.
And I say all this as someone that thinks black cab drivers in London deserve to get their backsides kicked all the way to South of the River.
But any local mini cab service wouldn't get away with zero regulation of their drivers, so why the hell should uber, just because they've (ooh), got an app and reckon they're a 'tech' company. No you're not, you're a taxi firm, so behave like one.
Funnily enough, the argument about them not really being a taxi company will be exposed now for the myth it is as they'll find their app is pretty worthless in London from next week on. |
Probably the only way you could get a black cab to go south of the river.
Uber's far from perfect but I genuinely hope they get their house in order as I've always found the service to be fantastic and everything black cabs aren't: Reliable, comfortable, reasonable priced, incredibly convenient and the review system means both rider and driver are mutually accountable to eachother.
As someone who lives just outside zone 6 taxis are the only way for me to get home after a night out. Most services are prohibitively expensive. |  | | |
| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 14:35 - Sep 22 with 8626 views | londonlisa2001 |
| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 14:17 - Sep 22 by macthejack |
Probably the only way you could get a black cab to go south of the river.
Uber's far from perfect but I genuinely hope they get their house in order as I've always found the service to be fantastic and everything black cabs aren't: Reliable, comfortable, reasonable priced, incredibly convenient and the review system means both rider and driver are mutually accountable to eachother.
As someone who lives just outside zone 6 taxis are the only way for me to get home after a night out. Most services are prohibitively expensive. |
I agree with you.
I hope they get their house in order as well. It's a ridiculous state of affairs that they kept refusing to do so. Now they will.
I also think the black cabs have brought a lot of this on themselves - the number of times over the years they have refused to take my fare because I was going to a place they didn't want to go, or it wasn't on the way, or they'd 'never get a fare back in' is crazy. And their prices are a disgrace.
But the answer isn't a company that refuse to behave with any type of decency. I hardly ever use black cabs and I never use uber. I always use my local minicab firm as I trust them, the drivers are all checked, their prices are great. Uber will sort themselves out and the service will probably never actually stop. | | | |
| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 15:44 - Sep 22 with 8525 views | Valerie |
Storm in a tea cup.
They will appeal and eventually bend on a few things then carry on like normal.
In the main the customer supports them and they will decide in the end.
After the black cabs initial euphoria on hearing this decision they are now realising it
will change very little in the long run and Uber will expand just like in virtually every
major city in the world.
Times are changing get used to it.
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| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 15:57 - Sep 22 with 8492 views | londonlisa2001 |
| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 15:44 - Sep 22 by Valerie |
Storm in a tea cup.
They will appeal and eventually bend on a few things then carry on like normal.
In the main the customer supports them and they will decide in the end.
After the black cabs initial euphoria on hearing this decision they are now realising it
will change very little in the long run and Uber will expand just like in virtually every
major city in the world.
Times are changing get used to it.
[Post edited 25 Sep 2017 17:55]
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Well if the things they bend on are some degree of checking for their drivers, some submission to regulation and taxation, some protection for the people that work for them, then that's what's been asked for isn't it.
As for the last bit - that's the sort of stuff uber used to say until they had their licence revoked in their biggest non US market and had to send a crybaby email asking people to sign a petition because TFL were being unfair to them. | | | |
| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 16:11 - Sep 22 with 8465 views | Valerie |
Uber will be going stronger than ever in 2 years and diddly squat will be done apart from throwing out a few few crumbs when appealing,that's for sure. | | | |
| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 16:28 - Sep 22 with 8442 views | Tummer_from_Texas |
| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 12:04 - Sep 22 by londonlisa2001 |
Because they been asked and asked to start giving some sort of toss for the safety of their customers by carrying out even basic criminal background checks on their drivers, to provide some sort of regulation, to stop using tragedy to make more money, to pay some sort of tax, to provide any type of basic employment protection for the 40,000 drivers in London that work for them, and they've always laughed in the face of the requests, with a billy big bo****s attitude of 'there's nothing you can do about it'.
Well they're not laughing now are they. They didn't think for one minute that the Mayor would have the bottle to do this.
They will now have to change the way they operate to get their licence back. About time.
And I say all this as someone that thinks black cab drivers in London deserve to get their backsides kicked all the way to South of the River.
But any local mini cab service wouldn't get away with zero regulation of their drivers, so why the hell should uber, just because they've (ooh), got an app and reckon they're a 'tech' company. No you're not, you're a taxi firm, so behave like one.
Funnily enough, the argument about them not really being a taxi company will be exposed now for the myth it is as they'll find their app is pretty worthless in London from next week on. |
As huge as Uber (and now Lyft, their competition) are in America, I'm actually pretty surprised that there haven't been many safety-related incidents. And it doesn't seem like we have any strict background check requirements here, either.
That said, I use it all the time now if I'm planning to drink and go out, or if I'm going somewhere like the airport where I don't want to pay for parking. Much, much cheaper than a cab here in Dallas, and with quicker pick ups. |  |
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| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 16:44 - Sep 22 with 8418 views | londonlisa2001 |
| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 16:28 - Sep 22 by Tummer_from_Texas |
As huge as Uber (and now Lyft, their competition) are in America, I'm actually pretty surprised that there haven't been many safety-related incidents. And it doesn't seem like we have any strict background check requirements here, either.
That said, I use it all the time now if I'm planning to drink and go out, or if I'm going somewhere like the airport where I don't want to pay for parking. Much, much cheaper than a cab here in Dallas, and with quicker pick ups. |
They're loads cheaper than a black cab in London as well, and easier to get. No cheaper than a mini cab but more convenient if out and about. I always take a mini cab to the airport rather than an Uber though.
To be honest, it's a matter of time before they either significantly clean up their act or get replaced by a better company doing the same thing anyway.
Lyft aren't here yet, although they keep saying they are opening in London any day. This may bring that forward I guess. | | | |
| London Uber Licence won't be renewed on 16:45 - Sep 22 with 8417 views | Meraki |
The other thing I like about Uber is that you know roughly how much its going to cost you. | | | |
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