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Been mulling this over since Sat. Match Thread echoes my neighbouring fans comments then that we were lucky, didn't deserve the victory and it was 'embarassing that our keeper was MOM'.
True, Shrews gave us little space, had more possession and shots and created chances, but dominating possession doesn't guarantee a win (as Dale know to their cost). Yes, we made a couple of potentially costly defensive errors, misplaced some passes and the pitch & conditions were poor. It was a dour watch but in the end we both had 4 shots on target, our keeper saved all their's and their's didn't - that's skill not luck. Our goal didn't bobble off a hillock & take a dozen deflections!
Of course 'run of the ball' matters in any ball game and we had that but what do folk think - luck or merit?
It wasn't down to luck, and all the reasons why it wouldn't be you've already pointed out
But neither was it a win which can be attributed to merit. I genuinely thought Shrews were the better team, but as the game wore on and they didn't score there's always the possibility of a late goal as their minds perhaps began to wander to their next fixture
If we'd drawn at MK Dons (as we should've done) and drawn against Shrews (as we might've done), we'd be one point worse off. Football, eh?
Shrewsbury were the better team by some distance, and imho deserved the victory for their overall play plus our overall drearyness , but somehow, we managed to win. (+3 points)
At MK Dons, we got our tactics wrong, and gave away a stupid penalty that cost us a deserved point. (-1 point)
Against Gillingham, the referee missed the most blatant penalty for us that you will ever see which would have seen us win.(-2 points)
So...on balance over the last 3 games we are level with where we deserve to be on points....just not in the correct order !!!
Funny old game.
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Lucky or deserved victory on 12:45 - Feb 3 with 3336 views
Was discussing this at the match and my comment was that if it had been a boxing match, we'd have probably lost the verdict on points.
I also commented that I was fed up with our g/k getting motm - absolutely not a knock on Bobby, more a comment on how we play at home. I know matches ebb and flow, subs and formations make a difference and I also know the other team play to stop us and can tire, but we looked like a different team at the end of the game than the start. And I'd like to be entertained again (see Judd's recent comments about the "drudgery" characterising our style of play recently). On another thread, I asked for a return to no fear football. I know we won't win them all, but just occasionally I'd like motm to go an RAFC player that scored a hat-trick.
Luck, or otherwise, evens itself out over time anyway, even if we were accused of being lucky. I thought we were the second best team and came away with 3 points. In this instance, that was probably more important than being entertained to give us more of a cushion. But I would still like to go back to us being entertained.
Lucky or deserved victory on 12:45 - Feb 3 by DaleiLama
Was discussing this at the match and my comment was that if it had been a boxing match, we'd have probably lost the verdict on points.
I also commented that I was fed up with our g/k getting motm - absolutely not a knock on Bobby, more a comment on how we play at home. I know matches ebb and flow, subs and formations make a difference and I also know the other team play to stop us and can tire, but we looked like a different team at the end of the game than the start. And I'd like to be entertained again (see Judd's recent comments about the "drudgery" characterising our style of play recently). On another thread, I asked for a return to no fear football. I know we won't win them all, but just occasionally I'd like motm to go an RAFC player that scored a hat-trick.
Luck, or otherwise, evens itself out over time anyway, even if we were accused of being lucky. I thought we were the second best team and came away with 3 points. In this instance, that was probably more important than being entertained to give us more of a cushion. But I would still like to go back to us being entertained.
'Only happy when you've got it often makes you miss the journey'
Lucky or deserved victory on 12:45 - Feb 3 by DaleiLama
Was discussing this at the match and my comment was that if it had been a boxing match, we'd have probably lost the verdict on points.
I also commented that I was fed up with our g/k getting motm - absolutely not a knock on Bobby, more a comment on how we play at home. I know matches ebb and flow, subs and formations make a difference and I also know the other team play to stop us and can tire, but we looked like a different team at the end of the game than the start. And I'd like to be entertained again (see Judd's recent comments about the "drudgery" characterising our style of play recently). On another thread, I asked for a return to no fear football. I know we won't win them all, but just occasionally I'd like motm to go an RAFC player that scored a hat-trick.
Luck, or otherwise, evens itself out over time anyway, even if we were accused of being lucky. I thought we were the second best team and came away with 3 points. In this instance, that was probably more important than being entertained to give us more of a cushion. But I would still like to go back to us being entertained.
If you want entertaining go t'pictures... Geoff Boycott
This is not the time for bickering.
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Lucky or deserved victory on 17:30 - Feb 3 with 3033 views
Lucky or deserved victory on 12:21 - Feb 3 by dawlishdale
Shrewsbury were the better team by some distance, and imho deserved the victory for their overall play plus our overall drearyness , but somehow, we managed to win. (+3 points)
At MK Dons, we got our tactics wrong, and gave away a stupid penalty that cost us a deserved point. (-1 point)
Against Gillingham, the referee missed the most blatant penalty for us that you will ever see which would have seen us win.(-2 points)
So...on balance over the last 3 games we are level with where we deserve to be on points....just not in the correct order !!!
Funny old game.
And add to that the last minute penalty given away against Wycombe, where we deserved a point. I'd say we're still owed a couple of last minute winners!
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Lucky or deserved victory on 18:39 - Feb 3 with 2945 views
Lucky or deserved victory on 17:12 - Feb 3 by kiwidale
If you want entertaining go t'pictures... Geoff Boycott
Aye and what a prick he was. Nobody watches county cricket anymore. Lets not take his advice and spend our days in the cinema.
Of all the game this season a draw would have been a fair result. But as others have said, we haven't had our fair share of the spoils in recent games so it evens out over the season. But we are awful to watch for long spells of a game and I don't get BBMs insistence on playing across the back when our players are not strong enough and put themselves under stupid pressure every game. He says that everybody is behind him with the approach.,.. well I sense fans are turning. The level of moaning and frustrated cries from all 3 stands was as audible as at any game I can remember in recent times.
I want BBM to learn and respond and he needs time to get it right. But we are not pretty to watch and the home fan count on Saturday shows that some people are staying away. Maybe they just do want to be entertained before they part with £22
Lucky or deserved victory on 11:38 - Feb 3 by D_Alien
I'd say neither!
It wasn't down to luck, and all the reasons why it wouldn't be you've already pointed out
But neither was it a win which can be attributed to merit. I genuinely thought Shrews were the better team, but as the game wore on and they didn't score there's always the possibility of a late goal as their minds perhaps began to wander to their next fixture
If we'd drawn at MK Dons (as we should've done) and drawn against Shrews (as we might've done), we'd be one point worse off. Football, eh?
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And drawn against Wycombe we’d have the same number of points. However MK dons have two points more than they would have so maybe we would be better off having drawn all three games.
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Lucky or deserved victory on 21:25 - Feb 3 with 2814 views
Lucky or deserved victory on 22:34 - Feb 3 by dingdangblue
That's brilliant.
It really is a classic. Still have clear memories of Peter Lever (Lancs) storming in to bowl at Boycott on a typical Old Trafford Roses match dark early evening.
Don't think Boycott got a sight of anything or the bat close to any delivery.
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