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Joe Marler grab on AWJ. 21:17 - Mar 7 with 6142 viewsmagicdaps10

A joke or a serious offence!?

Would that be allowed in the work place or in public? If not, why should it be acceptable as a joke on a professional playing field.

Some serious questions to be asked.

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Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 11:33 - Mar 8 with 1482 viewsHighjack

Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 11:13 - Mar 8 by Sirjohnalot

No, it’s not Sexual Assault.
It’s covered by s3 Sexual Offences Act 2003. In order to be guilty, it has to be shown that : -
(a)he intentionally touches another person (B),
(b)the touching is sexual,
(c)B does not consent to the touching, and
(d)A does not reasonably believe that B consents.

Now, a,c and d is made out. Issue is with b. It would have to be shown that Manler’s intention behind the grab was sexual, as opposed, to eg wind him up, which, i think was the case.

He’s a dick and deserved a slap, but it’s never sexual assault.

Thought Gareth Thomas’ comment was really funny.


Are you suggesting it’s ok to grab a woman’s tits as long as you’re only trying to wind her up?

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Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 11:45 - Mar 8 with 1458 viewsSirjohnalot

Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 11:33 - Mar 8 by Highjack

Are you suggesting it’s ok to grab a woman’s tits as long as you’re only trying to wind her up?


First of all, any comment I put on here regarding legal issues are not my personal opinion neither am I saying what is deemed to be ‘ok’ or acceptable, I am only explaining what the law is, that is my job, any case I deal with, I never judge whether I believe someone is guilty or not, that is the role of the jury.

To deal with your specific question, touching someone without their consent in the way that you mention would definitely be an assault. As far as the law is concerned (and if you have a problem with this, take it up with the legislature not me) it will come down to the context and intent of the perpetrator.

There is a world of difference between being in a night club and grabbing a woman’s breast and doing what Mahler did in the aftermath of a fight. It would be quite difficult to persuade a jury that grabbing a woman’s breasts would be anything other than sexual other than maybe in the middle of a fight eg. You could quite legitimately suggest then that the intention was to inflict pain as opposed to further a sexual intention.

It an important difference but consequences of conviction for a common assault as opposed to sexual is massive including eg, Sexual Offenders Register and devastation for future job prospects.
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Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 11:54 - Mar 8 with 1443 viewsjackal

Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 10:06 - Mar 8 by Lohengrin

We all did too. The bar erupted with laughter when he came out with that.


In a bar full of adults, fair enough. But on national tv in the afternoon with kids watching? A suggestion that he would have carried on playing if someone tickled his c*ck is inappropriate.

Also, Marler was a tw@t. Alan Wyn would have been within his rights to deck the knobhead.
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Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 12:08 - Mar 8 with 1428 viewsDarran

The biggest talking point in all this should actually be the comment from Gareth Thomas.
People want homophobia to go away but let’s allow homosexuals to make jokes that straight people wouldn’t be allowed to get away with.

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Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 12:21 - Mar 8 with 1406 viewsSirjohnalot

Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 12:08 - Mar 8 by Darran

The biggest talking point in all this should actually be the comment from Gareth Thomas.
People want homophobia to go away but let’s allow homosexuals to make jokes that straight people wouldn’t be allowed to get away with.


Let’s say for a moment that you have a point re the joke. What’s that got to do with people wanting homophobia to go away ? Surely there’s no connection between the two ?

Also programmes like Loose Women are full of these type of jokes (I’m told)
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Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 12:25 - Mar 8 with 1401 viewsDarran

Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 12:21 - Mar 8 by Sirjohnalot

Let’s say for a moment that you have a point re the joke. What’s that got to do with people wanting homophobia to go away ? Surely there’s no connection between the two ?

Also programmes like Loose Women are full of these type of jokes (I’m told)


Well people like our Gar wants straight people to stop making piss taking jokes about homosexuals but as an homosexual he wants to be able to say what he wants.
His comment is a disgrace and he should be dumped from punditry but he won’t be because the tv channels have to fill their quotas.

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Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 12:30 - Mar 8 with 1394 viewsSirjohnalot

Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 12:25 - Mar 8 by Darran

Well people like our Gar wants straight people to stop making piss taking jokes about homosexuals but as an homosexual he wants to be able to say what he wants.
His comment is a disgrace and he should be dumped from punditry but he won’t be because the tv channels have to fill their quotas.


Not sure we’ll agree Darran, thought it was a funny quip, but hope you have a lovely rest of the weekend. Sadly I’ve got work to do.

Have a a good one
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Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 12:36 - Mar 8 with 1381 viewsNeath_Jack

Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 12:25 - Mar 8 by Darran

Well people like our Gar wants straight people to stop making piss taking jokes about homosexuals but as an homosexual he wants to be able to say what he wants.
His comment is a disgrace and he should be dumped from punditry but he won’t be because the tv channels have to fill their quotas.



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Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 12:46 - Mar 8 with 1363 viewsDarran

Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 12:36 - Mar 8 by Neath_Jack



They’ve got to have a quota mun.

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Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 12:48 - Mar 8 with 1355 viewsHighjack

Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 12:46 - Mar 8 by Darran

They’ve got to have a quota mun.


They’ve already got enough c*nts on there though.

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Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 12:49 - Mar 8 with 1351 viewsNeath_Jack

Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 12:46 - Mar 8 by Darran

They’ve got to have a quota mun.


You can be a right nasty piece of work on times, very hateful if you like.

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Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 13:13 - Mar 8 with 1321 viewsDarran

Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 12:49 - Mar 8 by Neath_Jack

You can be a right nasty piece of work on times, very hateful if you like.


I’m not being hateful I’m being serious.
Are you telling me there’s not a memo amongst tv channels to use men,women,gays,blacks,whites etc?
Stop being silly.

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Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 13:52 - Mar 8 with 1278 viewsNotLoyal

Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 12:25 - Mar 8 by Darran

Well people like our Gar wants straight people to stop making piss taking jokes about homosexuals but as an homosexual he wants to be able to say what he wants.
His comment is a disgrace and he should be dumped from punditry but he won’t be because the tv channels have to fill their quotas.


Not quite sure about the quota thing, but the same applies to black people for sure. They can choose their derogatory words like Nigga and use them themselves but not others.

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Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 14:11 - Mar 8 with 1245 viewsSirjohnalot

Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 13:52 - Mar 8 by NotLoyal

Not quite sure about the quota thing, but the same applies to black people for sure. They can choose their derogatory words like Nigga and use them themselves but not others.


Please, can you delete that word ?
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Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 15:22 - Mar 8 with 1181 viewsWarwickHunt

Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 14:11 - Mar 8 by Sirjohnalot

Please, can you delete that word ?


If he censored it to the ‘n word’ what would you think he meant?
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Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 15:33 - Mar 8 with 1170 viewsSirjohnalot

Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 15:22 - Mar 8 by WarwickHunt

If he censored it to the ‘n word’ what would you think he meant?


That’s my point, it doesn’t need to be written on a forum like this. It’s an extremely offensive word.
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Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 16:17 - Mar 8 with 1111 viewsDarran

Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 15:33 - Mar 8 by Sirjohnalot

That’s my point, it doesn’t need to be written on a forum like this. It’s an extremely offensive word.


Prime example. Black people can say it white people can’t.

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Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 16:36 - Mar 8 with 1089 viewsNotLoyal

Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 14:11 - Mar 8 by Sirjohnalot

Please, can you delete that word ?


The word you refer to is on the sites words not allowed or banned.
Fck, cnt, tw@t though seem OK.

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Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 16:46 - Mar 8 with 1074 viewsDarran

Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 16:36 - Mar 8 by NotLoyal

The word you refer to is on the sites words not allowed or banned.
Fck, cnt, tw@t though seem OK.


Oi prick are you black Welsh?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-51720344

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Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 16:52 - Mar 8 with 1061 viewsexiledclaseboy

Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 16:46 - Mar 8 by Darran

Oi prick are you black Welsh?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-51720344


Nothing wrong with that is there?

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Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 16:54 - Mar 8 with 1053 viewsNotLoyal

Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 16:46 - Mar 8 by Darran

Oi prick are you black Welsh?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-51720344


Now prick on the other hand has several meanings hence it is on the allowed list.

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Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 17:08 - Mar 8 with 1023 viewsdickythorpe

Naked rugby that's what the punter wants.
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Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 17:08 - Mar 8 with 1021 viewsDarran

Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 16:52 - Mar 8 by exiledclaseboy

Nothing wrong with that is there?


I didn't say there was did I? I’m definitely ticking black Welsh I’ve always wanted a massive knob.

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Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 17:10 - Mar 8 with 1013 viewsexiledclaseboy

Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 17:08 - Mar 8 by Darran

I didn't say there was did I? I’m definitely ticking black Welsh I’ve always wanted a massive knob.


You seem angry lately.

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Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 17:10 - Mar 8 with 1009 viewstheloneranger

Joe Marler grab on AWJ. on 17:08 - Mar 8 by Darran

I didn't say there was did I? I’m definitely ticking black Welsh I’ve always wanted a massive knob.


There's a big difference in having one and being one!! 😇

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