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Saints v Pompey surely should have made the top 10. Im guessing the pundits forgot about it, due to one half of the game living in the lower reaches of the football pyramid.
Kind of weird that they include Chelsea/Fulham which hasn't been a derby of any note for over half a century and Palace/Brighton that's a manufactured rivalry from the late 70's but haven't included Saints/Skates, Burnley/Blackburn, Wolves/West Brom, Cardiff/Swansea or Millwall/West Ham.
It's a really strange selection to be honest.
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Top 10 Derbys on the BBC on 15:24 - Jan 26 with 3067 views
Top 10 Derbys on the BBC on 15:14 - Jan 26 by franniesTache
Kind of weird that they include Chelsea/Fulham which hasn't been a derby of any note for over half a century and Palace/Brighton that's a manufactured rivalry from the late 70's but haven't included Saints/Skates, Burnley/Blackburn, Wolves/West Brom, Cardiff/Swansea or Millwall/West Ham.
It's a really strange selection to be honest.
People tend to include the Palace one in those lists now because they are both quite established premier league clubs, just lazy really.
Chelsea Fulham would hardly be anyone in the countries answer in the top 10 except Fulham fans.
Examples: 1) Garth Crooks creates a team of the week clearly without watching any of the games - he put in Laporte but not Salisu last weekend. 2) The number of articles on Man Utd and Liverpool massively exceeds articles on any other team.
The BBC simply can't be trusted to report facts any more and IMO they should be de-funded.
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Top 10 Derbys on the BBC on 17:31 - Jan 26 with 2941 views
They really must’ve forgotten us, especially seeing how they’ve got the derby in there, famous for basically not being one (aka Palace VS Brighton) as well as all these tourist ones in there! Same goes for the likes of the spurs-Chelsea one, as I always remember Chelsea’s main ones were always Brentford, QPR and Fulham with Spurs’s being West Ham, Millwall and Arsenal. Makes 0% sense unless they did forget us/miss us out.
The definition of a derby in football terms is a game between two teams from the same city or area. How Crystal Palace from south London and Brighton can be termed a derby is anyones guess. Rivalry yes, derby no.
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Top 10 Derbys on the BBC on 18:52 - Jan 26 with 2883 views
It just shows the bias that is inbred in the BBC, so it's not just politics, but sport as well. How on earth can any team have more than one rival to determine a derby ffs, let alone one between clubs 50 odd miles apart!
Ok not a Prem League derby, but one at the weekend which can be as fierce as ours was the true East Midlands one between Forest and Derby. Always feisty!
Top 10 Derbys on the BBC on 15:14 - Jan 26 by franniesTache
Kind of weird that they include Chelsea/Fulham which hasn't been a derby of any note for over half a century and Palace/Brighton that's a manufactured rivalry from the late 70's but haven't included Saints/Skates, Burnley/Blackburn, Wolves/West Brom, Cardiff/Swansea or Millwall/West Ham.
It's a really strange selection to be honest.
Your list smashes the BBC.
Top 3 for levels of hatred in no particular order for me are West Ham/Millwall, Saints/Little Pompey and Cardiff/Swans.
How Chelsea/Spurs, Liverpool/Man Utd are classed as derbies I'll never know. Palace/Brighton is about as new as the Palace ultras
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Top 10 Derbys on the BBC on 07:30 - Jan 27 with 2623 views
West Ham - Millwall Southampton - pom*ey Cardiff - Swansea Leeds - Manchester United (90% on the Leeds side) Blackburn - Burnley Sunderland - Newcastle Villa - Birmingham City Sheffield Wednesday - Sheffield United Forest - Derby Last place probably out of Liverpool - United Chelsea - Tottenham Arsenal - Tottenham
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Top 10 Derbys on the BBC on 07:30 - Jan 27 by barry_sanchez
West Ham - Millwall Southampton - pom*ey Cardiff - Swansea Leeds - Manchester United (90% on the Leeds side) Blackburn - Burnley Sunderland - Newcastle Villa - Birmingham City Sheffield Wednesday - Sheffield United Forest - Derby Last place probably out of Liverpool - United Chelsea - Tottenham Arsenal - Tottenham
One Steel City derby it all kicked off in The Walkabout pub , the police just got the staff and anyone who wanted out then locked the doors and let them all get on with it until they were all too drunk to fight anymore.
Top 10 Derbys on the BBC on 08:49 - Jan 27 by Bison
One Steel City derby it all kicked off in The Walkabout pub , the police just got the staff and anyone who wanted out then locked the doors and let them all get on with it until they were all too drunk to fight anymore.
What about Norwich - Ipswich?
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MOTD Top 10: Premier League derbies on 09:32 - Jan 27 with 2532 views
I think some people may have missed the title of the BBC link, which was Top 10 PREMIER LEAGUE derbies" in the MOTD Top 10 series of Lineker, Shearer and Richards "ranking their top 10s from an assortment of topics across the PREMIER LEAGUE ERA."
So, their parameters are clearly defined.
Love it or loathe it, the media have invested a fortune in the Premier League and that is what they are promoting. It is also what the new generation of football fans cares about. My grandson, for example, is a walking encyclopaedia of everything Premier League but anything in football before that, he knows and cares little about. It's a bit like us and the Southern League, which was one of the two top leagues until the 1920s. There was probably a time in the 30s and 40s when older fans still cared deeply about Southern League records while younger fans didn't.
Most records quoted in the media nowadays, like the free-kick goal records involving Ward-Prowse, only refer to the Premier League.
Times have changed and in sport, large chunks of the past get forgotten about, especailly when old competitions disappear. Who cares about the Inter-cities Fairs Cup any more or who knows that there was once a time when Wanderers FC and Old Etonians had won more major trophies than any other teams in the country or that theirs was once the biggest derby in English football?
Some of the derby games being mentioned in this thread have never even taken place in the Premier League or, if they have, only a couple of times years ago. West Ham and Millwall, for example, have never played each other in the Premier League while even Brighton and Palace have played each other ten times in it and will continue to do so next season.
Of course, if the topic had been Top 10 derbies, then that would have been a different matter.
MOTD Top 10: Premier League derbies on 09:32 - Jan 27 by dirk_doone
I think some people may have missed the title of the BBC link, which was Top 10 PREMIER LEAGUE derbies" in the MOTD Top 10 series of Lineker, Shearer and Richards "ranking their top 10s from an assortment of topics across the PREMIER LEAGUE ERA."
So, their parameters are clearly defined.
Love it or loathe it, the media have invested a fortune in the Premier League and that is what they are promoting. It is also what the new generation of football fans cares about. My grandson, for example, is a walking encyclopaedia of everything Premier League but anything in football before that, he knows and cares little about. It's a bit like us and the Southern League, which was one of the two top leagues until the 1920s. There was probably a time in the 30s and 40s when older fans still cared deeply about Southern League records while younger fans didn't.
Most records quoted in the media nowadays, like the free-kick goal records involving Ward-Prowse, only refer to the Premier League.
Times have changed and in sport, large chunks of the past get forgotten about, especailly when old competitions disappear. Who cares about the Inter-cities Fairs Cup any more or who knows that there was once a time when Wanderers FC and Old Etonians had won more major trophies than any other teams in the country or that theirs was once the biggest derby in English football?
Some of the derby games being mentioned in this thread have never even taken place in the Premier League or, if they have, only a couple of times years ago. West Ham and Millwall, for example, have never played each other in the Premier League while even Brighton and Palace have played each other ten times in it and will continue to do so next season.
Of course, if the topic had been Top 10 derbies, then that would have been a different matter.
Top 10 Derbys on the BBC on 17:40 - Jan 26 by Sadoldgit
The definition of a derby in football terms is a game between two teams from the same city or area. How Crystal Palace from south London and Brighton can be termed a derby is anyones guess. Rivalry yes, derby no.
The so called M23 rivalry is completely contrived. Basically it's a stand in as neither team has the cojones to take on their real geographical rivals that being Millwall for Palace and the Skates for Brighton.
Top 10 Derbys on the BBC on 10:44 - Jan 27 by Chesham_Saint
The so called M23 rivalry is completely contrived. Basically it's a stand in as neither team has the cojones to take on their real geographical rivals that being Millwall for Palace and the Skates for Brighton.
Im playing devil's advocate here but Brighton's stadium is nearer to Selhurst Park (45 miles) than it is to Fratton Park (50 miles) and Brighton and Pompey have only played each other once in the last 10 years and that was EFL cup during lockdown, whereas they play Palace regularly in the league. As for Millwall, they already have their rivalry with West Ham.
The last time they played each other in front of a crowd at Fratton was more than 10 years ago and Brighton fans had a great time. But, note the empty seats in the home sections:
Top 10 Derbys on the BBC on 11:13 - Jan 27 by dirk_doone
Im playing devil's advocate here but Brighton's stadium is nearer to Selhurst Park (45 miles) than it is to Fratton Park (50 miles) and Brighton and Pompey have only played each other once in the last 10 years and that was EFL cup during lockdown, whereas they play Palace regularly in the league. As for Millwall, they already have their rivalry with West Ham.
The last time they played each other in front of a crowd at Fratton was more than 10 years ago and Brighton fans had a great time. But, note the empty seats in the home sections:
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Does a team need to have a derby? I think the Palace Brighton one is completely contrived.
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Top 10 Derbys on the BBC on 11:35 - Jan 27 with 2364 views
Top 10 Derbys on the BBC on 11:20 - Jan 27 by PaleRider
Does a team need to have a derby? I think the Palace Brighton one is completely contrived.
Fans always want one so yes. I know a Coventry fan who desperately wants to have derby games with teams like Leicester and Villa, who already have their own derbies, or anyone who'll take them seriously. They've even tried to concoct a rivalry with Sunderland.
Top 10 Derbys on the BBC on 11:20 - Jan 27 by PaleRider
Does a team need to have a derby? I think the Palace Brighton one is completely contrived.
As is ours with Bournemouth. The media tried to create and stir up some rivalry, but it was never going to be anything like our rivalry with the skates. Unsurprisingly, it was mainly the younger Bournemouth fans that grasped at it and desperately lapped it up.
I can see why the media tried to do it, we haven't played the Skates in the league for 10 seasons, so with us playing Bournemouth in the Prem, it kind of made sense. The trouble is, it backfired once they got relegated and they realised that we weren't interested.
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Top 10 Derbys on the BBC on 13:14 - Jan 27 with 2295 views
Top 10 Derbys on the BBC on 12:14 - Jan 27 by TimSaint
As is ours with Bournemouth. The media tried to create and stir up some rivalry, but it was never going to be anything like our rivalry with the skates. Unsurprisingly, it was mainly the younger Bournemouth fans that grasped at it and desperately lapped it up.
I can see why the media tried to do it, we haven't played the Skates in the league for 10 seasons, so with us playing Bournemouth in the Prem, it kind of made sense. The trouble is, it backfired once they got relegated and they realised that we weren't interested.
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Tim - going back to the OP; the whole article is contrived!
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Top 10 Derbys on the BBC on 15:03 - Jan 27 with 2264 views
Top 10 Derbys on the BBC on 11:20 - Jan 27 by PaleRider
Does a team need to have a derby? I think the Palace Brighton one is completely contrived.
I lived in Brighton for a couple of years, their fans will never forgive palace fans for rioting and trashing the seafront. There were other issues in the build up to this too, but yes could be seen as contrived.
Top 10 Derbys on the BBC on 15:03 - Jan 27 by BuenosSaint
I lived in Brighton for a couple of years, their fans will never forgive palace fans for rioting and trashing the seafront. There were other issues in the build up to this too, but yes could be seen as contrived.
I hear what you say BS, but by that metric shouldn’t the Zimmers have a rivalry with Leeds whose fans trashed half of Bournemouth in the Cup a few years back?
Can you imagine that? The cherries crew taking on Leeds on the Elland Road terraces?
Top 10 Derbys on the BBC on 17:16 - Jan 26 by PaleRider
BBC football reporting is frankly appalling!
Examples: 1) Garth Crooks creates a team of the week clearly without watching any of the games - he put in Laporte but not Salisu last weekend. 2) The number of articles on Man Utd and Liverpool massively exceeds articles on any other team.
The BBC simply can't be trusted to report facts any more and IMO they should be de-funded.
Garth Crookes is an imbecile of the first order. His excuse for omitting Salisu was that "He's inconsistent and liable to make a massive error at any time." or something similar. On that basis, he couldn't pick more than half of the players in the PL and certainly should never pick De Gea, McGuire, Stones, Jones, Mings, Cash and Walker, to name a few that he has picked in recent seasons. I thought team of the week was supposed to be about this weeks performances, the dolt. Salisu was absolutely the defender of the week by just about everyone else's reckoning.
Top 10 Derbys on the BBC on 16:38 - Jan 27 by Berber
Garth Crookes is an imbecile of the first order. His excuse for omitting Salisu was that "He's inconsistent and liable to make a massive error at any time." or something similar. On that basis, he couldn't pick more than half of the players in the PL and certainly should never pick De Gea, McGuire, Stones, Jones, Mings, Cash and Walker, to name a few that he has picked in recent seasons. I thought team of the week was supposed to be about this weeks performances, the dolt. Salisu was absolutely the defender of the week by just about everyone else's reckoning.
Agreed.
It's a shame as I liked him as a player but now he's just embarrassing. It's not just the team of the week selections, which are almost childlike, but he seems to take himself very seriously and is also very boring! I can't understand how he stays in his role.
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