| Accrington up for sale 22:57 - Oct 21 with 6700 views | 49thseason |
Andy Holt has had enough......
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| Accrington up for sale on 23:05 - Oct 21 with 6646 views | mikehunt |
Does he fancy coming here? |  |
| The worm of time turns not for the cuckoo of circumstance. |
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| Accrington up for sale on 23:15 - Oct 21 with 6612 views | oddjob007 |
| Accrington up for sale on 23:05 - Oct 21 by mikehunt |
Does he fancy coming here? |
Fella is having a meltdown on Twitter.
Someone has really wound him up. |  | | |
| Accrington up for sale on 23:44 - Oct 21 with 6540 views | Dalenet |
Might explain why the management duo haven't had their contracts renewed/extended. | | | |
| Accrington up for sale on 08:44 - Oct 22 with 6285 views | 442Dale |
Carrying on this morning. Quite sad to see it play out really. |  |
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| Accrington up for sale on 09:23 - Oct 22 with 6189 views | TalkingSutty |
| Accrington up for sale on 08:44 - Oct 22 by 442Dale |
Carrying on this morning. Quite sad to see it play out really. |
Disrespected by Coleman and Bell, no wonder he's throwing in the towel. The alternative would have been to sack them both but it seems he's had enough of it all. |  | | |
| Accrington up for sale on 13:30 - Oct 22 with 5884 views | RAFCBLUE |
Accy’s last set of accounts at June 2022 showed they were indebted to Holt’s group of Companies to the tune of £4m.
The ground is value at £7m and they finished 12th in League 1 that season.
He’s clearly been subsidising them and now Coleman and Bell fancy another contact, which implies more subsidy. |  |
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| Accrington up for sale on 15:03 - Oct 22 with 5726 views | scarrow |
| Accrington up for sale on 13:30 - Oct 22 by RAFCBLUE |
Accy’s last set of accounts at June 2022 showed they were indebted to Holt’s group of Companies to the tune of £4m.
The ground is value at £7m and they finished 12th in League 1 that season.
He’s clearly been subsidising them and now Coleman and Bell fancy another contact, which implies more subsidy. |
Looks like he's putting around 90k a month to keep them financially stable |  |
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| Accrington up for sale on 15:19 - Oct 22 with 5665 views | D_Alien |
Any potential Dale investors would be looking at this and giving them further pause for thought
Accy have had relative success, given where they came from and whilst Coleman/Bell just weren't right for Dale there's no doubt that they're a fit for Accy. If the duo are holding out for better terms with a renewed contract, Holt's in a real bind. Either he writes off his existing investment or he agrees to their demands
Anyone looking at Dale would likely find themselves having to put similar amounts in... for what? Glory? Masochistic abuse? There's only one reason i can think of, and that's to gain access to our "facilities" for purposes that would see them reap a "dividend" at some point. As others have said, might as well wait for administration...
If Holt bolts, we'll have local competition for that type of "investment" |  |
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| Accrington up for sale on 15:42 - Oct 22 with 5622 views | 49thseason |
| Accrington up for sale on 15:19 - Oct 22 by D_Alien |
Any potential Dale investors would be looking at this and giving them further pause for thought
Accy have had relative success, given where they came from and whilst Coleman/Bell just weren't right for Dale there's no doubt that they're a fit for Accy. If the duo are holding out for better terms with a renewed contract, Holt's in a real bind. Either he writes off his existing investment or he agrees to their demands
Anyone looking at Dale would likely find themselves having to put similar amounts in... for what? Glory? Masochistic abuse? There's only one reason i can think of, and that's to gain access to our "facilities" for purposes that would see them reap a "dividend" at some point. As others have said, might as well wait for administration...
If Holt bolts, we'll have local competition for that type of "investment" |
Except for the small matter of £4m of debt held by Holt's Company.
You could also,argue that Accrington have probably reached their maximum potential given the size of the town and the relative success of nearby Blackburn and Burnley and thats not to say we are much better off but I would think we have more potential for growth if anyone had a decent, well funded, long term plan to tap into it.
In some respects we are not looking for someone,to pump in a couple of millions a year, we are, or at least ought to be, looking for someone prepared to finance a period,of organic, sustainable growth with new channels of income providing long term financial security. Splurging cash chasing unattainable dreams always ends in disaster because eventually the money runs out and the club is left with the ruins. | | | |
| Accrington up for sale on 15:52 - Oct 22 with 5607 views | RAFCBLUE |
| Accrington up for sale on 15:19 - Oct 22 by D_Alien |
Any potential Dale investors would be looking at this and giving them further pause for thought
Accy have had relative success, given where they came from and whilst Coleman/Bell just weren't right for Dale there's no doubt that they're a fit for Accy. If the duo are holding out for better terms with a renewed contract, Holt's in a real bind. Either he writes off his existing investment or he agrees to their demands
Anyone looking at Dale would likely find themselves having to put similar amounts in... for what? Glory? Masochistic abuse? There's only one reason i can think of, and that's to gain access to our "facilities" for purposes that would see them reap a "dividend" at some point. As others have said, might as well wait for administration...
If Holt bolts, we'll have local competition for that type of "investment" |
In Accy’s specific situation, Holt doesn’t have to rush or offer Coleman and Bell anything, particularly when he’s bankrolling their deficit on a monthly basis.
Moreover, Accy have just become one of a number of clubs already “for sale” , “seeking investment” or new off field management to take a club forward.
Newport have just done a deal with Huw Jenkins and most of League 2 is, in some form, purchasable for the right price.
To your point, unless you’re a fan of the club concerned there is no link or logic to funding a loss making football club. | |
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| Accrington up for sale on 16:24 - Oct 22 with 5551 views | D_Alien |
| Accrington up for sale on 15:42 - Oct 22 by 49thseason |
Except for the small matter of £4m of debt held by Holt's Company.
You could also,argue that Accrington have probably reached their maximum potential given the size of the town and the relative success of nearby Blackburn and Burnley and thats not to say we are much better off but I would think we have more potential for growth if anyone had a decent, well funded, long term plan to tap into it.
In some respects we are not looking for someone,to pump in a couple of millions a year, we are, or at least ought to be, looking for someone prepared to finance a period,of organic, sustainable growth with new channels of income providing long term financial security. Splurging cash chasing unattainable dreams always ends in disaster because eventually the money runs out and the club is left with the ruins. |
"Splurging cash chasing unattainable dreams always ends in disaster"
Is that so? Who knew | |
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| Accrington up for sale on 18:06 - Oct 22 with 5384 views | Brierls |
I hope any potential investors don’t find their way to this messageboard. |  | | |
| Accrington up for sale on 20:17 - Oct 22 with 5172 views | D_Alien |
| Accrington up for sale on 18:06 - Oct 22 by Brierls |
I hope any potential investors don’t find their way to this messageboard. |
Why? Do you think it might put them off?
Best they know how the people who really matter - the fans - feel, i'd say | |
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| Accrington up for sale on 15:08 - Oct 23 with 4717 views | off2div1 |
Lets Buy it close it down sell the ground for houses and change the clubs name and ground to Rochdale. (Milton Keynes mark 2) that's one way to get back in the football league.  |  | | |
| Accrington up for sale on 04:58 - Oct 29 with 3844 views | JumeirahDale |
Kieran Maguire's Price of Football podcast has an interview with Andy Holt on the feed now - he cites multiple issues and sounds like he's fallen out of love with the club (and the spending) but it certainly seems like "John and Jimmy" might have put the nail in the coffin for him.
There's a comment about agents telling him players didn't want to come back and play again after injuries which I thought was very telling. |  | | |
| Accrington up for sale on 21:03 - Oct 29 with 3567 views | pioneer |
Sounds like there is a lot of dirty laundry being aired publicly, possibly on both sides. Thats not good, especially with the on field performances being good (until last saturday).
Morecambe also doing good despite their off field challenges. | | | |
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