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Mothers Milk 21:33 - Dec 4 with 3668 viewscolinallcars

The Beeb reporting supplies of Guinness could run low over Xmas due to spiralling demand.
I'm a bitter man meself ( very bitter coming away from most Rs games), but choose Guinness if in a pub with no cask ale.
Stock up - panic buy !
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Mothers Milk on 17:12 - Dec 5 with 1256 viewsGus_iom

Mothers Milk on 11:03 - Dec 5 by BrianMcCarthy

Burn him!

The head tastes terrible, the black tastes lovely. If it's poured too quickly the head won't form properly and before long it's mixed up with the lovely black stuff and yer pint tastes like muck.

Same with Murphy's. Same with Beamish (though Beamish tastes terrible no matter how you pour it!).


Loved the Murpheys when I visited Ireland, but have never found it for sale anywhere else.
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Mothers Milk on 17:31 - Dec 5 with 1200 viewsqpr_1968

Mothers Milk on 11:03 - Dec 5 by BrianMcCarthy

Burn him!

The head tastes terrible, the black tastes lovely. If it's poured too quickly the head won't form properly and before long it's mixed up with the lovely black stuff and yer pint tastes like muck.

Same with Murphy's. Same with Beamish (though Beamish tastes terrible no matter how you pour it!).


love me guiness.....best ever in dublin brewery, parliament hotel dublin.
navins and magpies in clarecastle, that was all 20 years ago....
been back to both places since and almost the same.

best pint in london....new inn brentford.

never understood the letting it settle and all that, but you explain it perfect and easy to understand....

Poll: how many games this season....home/away.

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Mothers Milk on 17:42 - Dec 5 with 1191 viewsSK_hoops

I quite like that West Indies Porter Guinness. By the way, how did they fit a pub into the Hammersmith and city line entrance? Must've been tiny!
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Mothers Milk on 17:53 - Dec 5 with 1164 viewsqpr_1968

Mothers Milk on 14:27 - Dec 5 by NewBee

I once knew one old boy (Irish) who only ever drank his Guinness from bottles. Used to call a pint bottle a "sergeant", for some unknown reason, which I think my be be a term used in the north of Ireland, where he was from?

Anyhow, I'd bet that this current Xmas scare story is a just a (no cost) ruse to keep Guinness in the headlines.

As somebody said earlier, their promotion/marketing is excellent.

P.S. Does anyone remember "The Doctor's Dilemma" pub in Hammersmith Tube Station (H&C Line entrance)? I was in there once and a more dank and dingy hole you couldn't find anywhere, even by Hammersmith's then pre-gentrified standards.
Anyhow, it was during a weekday and there were only 4 or 5 punters in, all Irish I'd guess. Thing is, iirc they only had five(?) beer taps - something like four serving Guinness and the fifth lager (just in case a very lost tourist wandered in?)
Never seen anything like that place.

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i used to drink exactly where you describe in a pub in hammersmith station, 1975, but it was called the tavern then.....same one?

Poll: how many games this season....home/away.

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Mothers Milk on 18:30 - Dec 5 with 1104 viewsstowmarketrange

Mothers Milk on 15:22 - Dec 5 by W4Hoop

I was told during a visit to St James Gate Brewery that Guinness for domestic consumption is brewed differently from that made overseas. The domestic stuff takes much longer to pour but tastes smoother when done, but Guinness drinkers outside Ireland don't have the patience. I do remember when I lived in Dublin there would always be a dozen pints ready on the bar when they opened the doors.


When we went in the early 80’s most pubs only had 3 beers,Smethwicks,harp or Guinness.There were always loads of pints of Guinness in various stages of being poured.
The stuff brewed at Park Royal always gave me a headache drinking it,but the Guinness brewed in Ireland is so much better.
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Mothers Milk on 18:36 - Dec 5 with 1071 viewsMick_S

Mothers Milk on 18:30 - Dec 5 by stowmarketrange

When we went in the early 80’s most pubs only had 3 beers,Smethwicks,harp or Guinness.There were always loads of pints of Guinness in various stages of being poured.
The stuff brewed at Park Royal always gave me a headache drinking it,but the Guinness brewed in Ireland is so much better.


The three mentioned are all available in Northern Ireland in the area where my in-laws live.

Two out of three can be bad, Meaty-boy.

Did I ever mention that I was in Minder?

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Mothers Milk on 21:23 - Dec 5 with 998 viewscolinallcars

People always said the only place in England that sold Dublin Guinness was Liverpool - everwhere else it was Park Royal Guinness which was inferior. Was that so ? Park Royal brewery closed many years ago I think ?
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Mothers Milk on 22:19 - Dec 5 with 932 views222gers

Anyone tried Sausage Tree Irish Vodka ?
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Mothers Milk on 23:36 - Dec 5 with 855 viewsNewBee

Mothers Milk on 17:42 - Dec 5 by SK_hoops

I quite like that West Indies Porter Guinness. By the way, how did they fit a pub into the Hammersmith and city line entrance? Must've been tiny!


"The Doctors Dilemma was situated in the Metropolitan Arcade on Hammersmith Broadway. This pub closed in the 1980s and later became El Metro, which has also closed."
https://www.closedpubs.co.uk/london/w6_hammersmith_doctorsdilemma.html

And yes, it was v.small - a room basically (though not what you might call "roomy")

While El Metro was, I think, an early Pub/Tapas Bar - served appropriately small plates I imagine.
Google shows this from 2010:
"El Metro II (that's a Roman 'two', not a double 'L', and number I is in Fulham) has been going since 1988 when it replaced a pub called the Doctor's Dilemma, and is literally a couple of metres from the ticket barrier at Hammersmith Metropolitan Line station. It is sometimes billed as a Spanish restaurant but it's really more a Spanish theme pub with Spanish beer, tapas, and used to have lambada dancing on a Friday night."
https://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/35/35952/El_Metro_ll/Hammersmith


After it closed, it might have become a hair salon? Anyway, I assume the unit still exists -probably a heel bar/key cutter or somesuch .
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Mothers Milk on 23:46 - Dec 5 with 832 viewsstowmarketrange

Mothers Milk on 17:42 - Dec 5 by SK_hoops

I quite like that West Indies Porter Guinness. By the way, how did they fit a pub into the Hammersmith and city line entrance? Must've been tiny!


There used to be a bar on the district line platform at Sloane Sq station back in the late 70’s.I’m not sure when it closed though.It closed in 1985.
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Mothers Milk on 07:21 - Dec 6 with 737 viewsGus_iom

Mothers Milk on 23:46 - Dec 5 by stowmarketrange

There used to be a bar on the district line platform at Sloane Sq station back in the late 70’s.I’m not sure when it closed though.It closed in 1985.
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We used to meet up in Moriarties on match days, a pub in the Baker Street underground station.
Loved that place, but no toilets was a drawback. You'd have QPR, Chelsea, Arsenal, Millwall, West Ham in there, happily drinking together, in the 80's. No Spurs though, a rule which was rigidly, and occasionally violently, enforced.
I think the no smoking in the underground rules did for it in the end. We moved to the Wallce Head pub, in the lanes behind the globe - full of chelsea, and best avoided (The Globe).
The Wallace Heads guv was famously bad tempered. I remember being first in on new years day. He's unlocking as I come in.
'Morning Norman. Happy new year!'
Brandished newspaper in front of my face.
'See this? 60 year old woman giving birth? She'll be dead before he's 10'.
Was in the area with my wife this year, and we went to the Wallace museum (Sigh. I preferred the 80's). I now know what the Wallace head is.
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Mothers Milk on 07:42 - Dec 6 with 716 viewsenfieldargh

Shout out for Kilkenny Red, hard to find but goes down a treat

captains fantastic
Poll: SWEET F'IN CAROLINE. Played every half time

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Mothers Milk on 08:46 - Dec 6 with 643 viewsMrSheen

Mothers Milk on 21:23 - Dec 5 by colinallcars

People always said the only place in England that sold Dublin Guinness was Liverpool - everwhere else it was Park Royal Guinness which was inferior. Was that so ? Park Royal brewery closed many years ago I think ?


My first job after college was at Park Royal Guinness. When it was built about 1930, the Irish government was so anxious about the risk to the future of St James’s Gate that the Guinness family signed a covenant that 30% of the Guinness sold in Britain would be exported from Dublin in perpetuity, so it was never just Liverpool, but much of the North and Scotland. When sales weakened at the end of the last century, there was no question of St James’s Gate closing because of the covenant so Park Royal had to go.

The recipe was the same in London and Dublin (indeed draught and bottled both came out of a single brewing process and were separated for different conditioning after 72 hours in the kettle) though the sourcing of the contents was different obviously, including the water. The main reason for the different flavour in the pub was turnover/barrel life, pouring and temperature - Irish beer always came out a few degrees colder.
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Mothers Milk on 09:33 - Dec 6 with 584 viewsTrellick

I remember the Hammersmith & City bar as a tapas gaff. Only went in there a couple of times pre match.
One was the Oldham play off 2nd leg.

I only found out recently that Guinness is now owned by Diageo
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Mothers Milk on 08:18 - Dec 7 with 370 viewsFDC

Mothers Milk on 11:10 - Dec 5 by Superhoop83

I'm with Mick and Brian!

On the one hand, the sale of most alcohol is down to marketing and Guinness has somehow pulled off the trick of looking like something cool to drink, which makes no sense when you think about it.

On the other hand, I've had some great pints of Guinness and some utter drek from local pubs a few hundred yards apart, but whether it is down to the pour or other factors I have no idea.

While we're at it, I'm still impressed with Guinness 0.0. No other AF drinks come close to it for tasting like the alcoholic version and it's just about as good as the normal stuff, even if Guinness never tastes as good from a can.
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I've been off for booze for about 9 months (lost a couple of stone, never felt better etc), and concur Guiness 0 is ace.

When i was back in the UK in the summer i was amazed at the amount of 0% and 0.5% ales and IPAs out there. At a family bbq it was really striking how many of the Millenial / Gen X crowd were on nonalcoholic beers, only the boomers were getting smashed 😄

Mind you, as a friend pointed out, it's little wonder the beer companies are throwing themselves into making decent nonalcoholic beer, they must be laughing. You mean we can take the expensive part of the beer out and sell it for the same price? OK sure!
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