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Would you take out of the cup & play offs if it meant McNulty being sacked? on 05:32 - Mar 26 by kel
Don’t get this. Are you really asking people if they want us to lose games in order for the manager to go?
Quite worrying that some have said yes.
Some minds were made up before McNulty's team kicked a ball and the cognitive dissonance means they really don't want to be proved wrong. However in hindsight the new era ushered in by the coming of the Ogden's should have included employing a new manager untainted by past associations that everyone could have got behind.
'Only happy when you've got it often makes you miss the journey'
Would you take out of the cup & play offs if it meant McNulty being sacked? on 06:54 - Mar 26 by James1980
Some minds were made up before McNulty's team kicked a ball and the cognitive dissonance means they really don't want to be proved wrong. However in hindsight the new era ushered in by the coming of the Ogden's should have included employing a new manager untainted by past associations that everyone could have got behind.
I genuinely think you are wrong James. After the free fall we have had this past 4 years everybody wanted Jim to do well. He has been a big servant to this club. The fan base is now polarised by his approach to the game. It's not enjoyable to watch most of the time. But sacking him now isn't the answer. Even he will need to reflect on last night's performance and change his approach
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Would you take out of the cup & play offs if it meant McNulty being sacked? on 07:32 - Mar 26 with 2713 views
Would you take out of the cup & play offs if it meant McNulty being sacked? on 06:54 - Mar 26 by James1980
Some minds were made up before McNulty's team kicked a ball and the cognitive dissonance means they really don't want to be proved wrong. However in hindsight the new era ushered in by the coming of the Ogden's should have included employing a new manager untainted by past associations that everyone could have got behind.
When McNulty was appointed for the last few games of our league existence I and I suspect the majority of fans supported the decision and wanted to see how Jim got on. On my part I was a bit sceptical because in his post Stockdale caretaker role, he was clearly out of his depth. But nevertheless, we were skint, dropping down a league and I supported the team and wanted him to succeed. The first season under Jim, wasn’t a great watch, but we know the circumstances given the off the field shenanigans. Jim enjoyed a good degree of support, the football had to be pragmatic, we were where we were. I did have increasing reservations about Jim’s style of play, and also how he conducted himself in pressers and at fans forums. There was one last season where fans lauded his bringing an identity to the team, Simon Gauge said he enjoyed the football Jim’s team played. It didn’t sit right with me, the limitations were clear, but I and we all parked that and settled for stability and the Ogden ownership being settled last spring gave me and I think most fans cause for optimism. Awarding Jim a three year contract was for me a worry, Jim had proved nothing, had kept us ticking over but nothing more. Meek performances typified his first season, the defeat to Hereford a particular lowlight. But in the Ogdens we had a sense of optimism, they do have a plan, they know what they’re doing I hoped. Pre season performances were encouraging too, and the opening day win at Boston, Jim had a lot of credit in the bank at that point, I and I think the vast majority of fans wanted Jim to push on. When Burton apparently came knocking, views were mixed on whether it would be a good or bad thing if he went. On my part I would have been happy to see Jim go, because I could see he wasn’t for changing. But when he did stay, I wanted him to prove me wrong, go on a run, prove beyond doubt that Burton had been wrong not to appoint him, but he didn’t did he. He proved he’s not for learning.
Simply, Jim has not pushed on. We have not shown consistency of results, but there are two things that really dispirit fans; the absolute inability of the team, individually to show fight and determination, not the players fault, we have a team of diminutive players, easy to outmuscle off the ball, and secondly for me the most irksome trait of Jim’s is his post match interviews, god the bloke talks rubbish, he must think fans are stupid and probably why some would rather rid of McNulty than get in the play offs, because it would just paper over the cracks.
I’d never vote to lose games, but do I want rid of this manager, yes, he’s shown over two seasons he is incapable of learning.
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Would you take out of the cup & play offs if it meant McNulty being sacked? on 07:45 - Mar 26 with 2663 views
Would you take out of the cup & play offs if it meant McNulty being sacked? on 06:54 - Mar 26 by James1980
Some minds were made up before McNulty's team kicked a ball and the cognitive dissonance means they really don't want to be proved wrong. However in hindsight the new era ushered in by the coming of the Ogden's should have included employing a new manager untainted by past associations that everyone could have got behind.
I genuinely think you are wrong James. After the free fall we have had this past 4 years everybody wanted Jim to do well. He has been a big servant to this club. The fan base is now polarised by his approach to the game. It's not enjoyable to watch most of the time. But sacking him now isn't the answer. Even he will need to reflect on last night's performance and change his approach
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Would you take out of the cup & play offs if it meant McNulty being sacked? on 08:40 - Mar 26 with 2531 views
Would you take out of the cup & play offs if it meant McNulty being sacked? on 07:45 - Mar 26 by Dalenet
I genuinely think you are wrong James. After the free fall we have had this past 4 years everybody wanted Jim to do well. He has been a big servant to this club. The fan base is now polarised by his approach to the game. It's not enjoyable to watch most of the time. But sacking him now isn't the answer. Even he will need to reflect on last night's performance and change his approach
Why will he change his approach? York only won because of their financial clout and you get what you pay for... Greg.
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Its a BRILLIANT goal to cap a BRILLIANT start by Rochdale - Don Goodman 26/08/10
Exactly, McNulty shows us time after time that he doesn't learn. He is not for turning. Hence, we are served up with the same robotic, predictable, boring shite. The only thing that has changed on the menu is a dolop of hot spice when the Bird is thrown into the mix. And now the Bird ingredient is no longer on the menu everything has gone bland. The chef needs to go.
He has nurtured, over the many months he has been in the job, a TOOTHLESS team, and it fills me with dread what this toothless team will do this Saturday against Aldershot, then against Spennymoor and then a big question mark as to whether we make the playoffs.
In answer to this daft survey the answer has to be no doesn't it? A play off place means McNulty has achieved. A final at Wembley is also good enough for me. Why would any fan forfeit any of those in order to sack the manager? I do think those achievements would paper over the cracks and i don't think things will change going forward but nobody wants us to miss out on those aims just to sack the manager do they? A play off place and Wembley appearance benefit the club and will justify the budget afforded to McNulty, one that should see us beat Spennymoor according to McNultys simplistic logic
Would you take out of the cup & play offs if it meant McNulty being sacked? on 05:32 - Mar 26 by kel
Don’t get this. Are you really asking people if they want us to lose games in order for the manager to go?
Quite worrying that some have said yes.
I posed this exact question to the guys with me in the Sandy last night, every answer was yes, that's how angry everyone felt....Have to say it doesn't surprise me..
Would you take out of the cup & play offs if it meant McNulty being sacked? on 09:18 - Mar 26 by TalkingSutty
In answer to this daft survey the answer has to be no doesn't it? A play off place means McNulty has achieved. A final at Wembley is also good enough for me. Why would any fan forfeit any of those in order to sack the manager? I do think those achievements would paper over the cracks and i don't think things will change going forward but nobody wants us to miss out on those aims just to sack the manager do they? A play off place and Wembley appearance benefit the club and will justify the budget afforded to McNulty, one that should see us beat Spennymoor according to McNultys simplistic logic
Currently just under 30% of people have answered yes. It’s buryesque and frankly embarrassing.
We’ll be starting petitions next.
“He was deliberately misleading the EFL”
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Would you take out of the cup & play offs if it meant McNulty being sacked? on 11:09 - Mar 26 with 2071 views
Would you take out of the cup & play offs if it meant McNulty being sacked? on 11:09 - Mar 26 by James1980
It would be a waste of money to sack Jim now
Jim wont be sacked now James, this poll is pointless like many of the ones that you post. He's got a big six weeks coming up though and if the season extends beyond that he'll still be manager next season, unless he leaves for pastures new which is always a possibility.
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Would you take out of the cup & play offs if it meant McNulty being sacked? on 11:32 - Mar 26 with 1995 views
Anyone signing yes is delusional. Jimmy is one of the best managers in our history. Especially given the resources he had which isn’t much. Get behind the lads and back him. Up the dale
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Would you take out of the cup & play offs if it meant McNulty being sacked? on 11:35 - Mar 26 with 1976 views
COME WRITERS AND CRITICS WHO PROPHESY WITH YOUR PEN, AND KEEP YOUR EYES WIDE, THE CHANCE WON'T COME AGAIN AND DON'T SPEAK TOO SOON FOR THE WHEELS STILL IN SPIN AND THERES NO TELLIN' WHO ITS NAMIN' FOR THE LOSER NOW WILL BE LATER TO WIN 'CAUSE THE TIMES...
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Would you take out of the cup & play offs if it meant McNulty being sacked? on 19:13 - Mar 26 with 1485 views
I can’t remember a situation as bizarre as this one in that even if we get into the playoffs and potentially win a trophy, a decent chunk of fans (from my own experience at least) would still want rid of the manager.
I can’t quite work out if I agree or not but I think I understand it
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Would you take out of the cup & play offs if it meant McNulty being sacked? on 19:53 - Mar 26 with 1398 views
Would you take out of the cup & play offs if it meant McNulty being sacked? on 11:09 - Mar 26 by James1980
It would be a waste of money to sack Jim now
We'll never know, it may prove to be the wisest move the clubs ever made for decades if it resulted in a win at Wembley in both the cup and the playoffs... its immaterial anyway as we will just let things stagnate until there's no real alternative whilst another season of what ifs whistles passed us.
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Would you take out of the cup & play offs if it meant McNulty being sacked? on 20:11 - Mar 26 with 1336 views
Would you take out of the cup & play offs if it meant McNulty being sacked? on 19:53 - Mar 26 by nordenblue
We'll never know, it may prove to be the wisest move the clubs ever made for decades if it resulted in a win at Wembley in both the cup and the playoffs... its immaterial anyway as we will just let things stagnate until there's no real alternative whilst another season of what ifs whistles passed us.
Win on Saturday and most people who want him gone will change their minds again…
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Would you take out of the cup & play offs if it meant McNulty being sacked? on 20:41 - Mar 26 with 1250 views
Would you take out of the cup & play offs if it meant McNulty being sacked? on 20:41 - Mar 26 by James1980
No they will be quiet until the next loss
I would refer you to my post earlier which six people bothered to upvote. It’s not knee jerk James, it’s legitimate opinion from long suffering Dale fans. McNulty is killing the spirit James.
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Would you take out of the cup & play offs if it meant McNulty being sacked? on 20:53 - Mar 26 with 1200 views
Would you take out of the cup & play offs if it meant McNulty being sacked? on 20:41 - Mar 26 by James1980
No they will be quiet until the next loss
Being fair, some will post with positivity, recognising where things are better than after a defeat.
Whether there’s any consistency in those posts, irrespective of scorelines, is a whole different conversation. It’s respecting that people will have their own feelings about the manager, so it’s not wrong to have them as it’ll have been the same with any manager.
Mine, along with trying to stay balanced in victory and defeat, are that his shortcomings will continue to outweigh his potential whilst he remains seemingly restricted with his team formation and squad utilisation and construction.
Would you take out of the cup & play offs if it meant McNulty being sacked? on 11:32 - Mar 26 by realisticdale33
Anyone signing yes is delusional. Jimmy is one of the best managers in our history. Especially given the resources he had which isn’t much. Get behind the lads and back him. Up the dale
He has had more resources than some of the managers in the sixties late seventies and eighties….and bigger crowds.
What those blokes had to work with, and still managed to keep us in the football league puts McN’s record (i wont call it achievements) into perspective.
He is manager of a club with a full time playing squad and not insubstantial administration in a league with several clubs of part and has the audacity to blame his budget.
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Would you take out of the cup & play offs if it meant McNulty being sacked? on 08:11 - Mar 27 with 708 views
Would you take out of the cup & play offs if it meant McNulty being sacked? on 20:46 - Mar 26 by Rodingdale
I would refer you to my post earlier which six people bothered to upvote. It’s not knee jerk James, it’s legitimate opinion from long suffering Dale fans. McNulty is killing the spirit James.
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I think it is 'knee jerk' and I include myself in that. People shouldn't post within 36 hours of a game. I'm not suggesting it is made law, but we all felt such hurt and pain after such a sole destroying defeat against York City. Unfortunately the defeat by Boston was still clear in the mind of fans, that on top of an uninspired draw at Maidenhead.
Yes we have had injuries but which club hasn't. The thing that gets my blood boiling is when it is suggested that the players are tired. If this is really true, then the manager is to blame and needs to review what his players are doing in training. I don't think player fitness is an issue but what is an issue is Jim's inability to adapt. For me, he worries too much about the opposition, especially at home. We should be taking the game to all teams at the COA, making it a place to see exciting attacking football. It doesn't have to be gung-ho, but it does have to attract floating and new fans. How else can the club expect to get anywhere near the 5,000 home fans it craves.
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Would you take out of the cup & play offs if it meant McNulty being sacked? on 08:24 - Mar 27 with 684 views
Would you take out of the cup & play offs if it meant McNulty being sacked? on 08:24 - Mar 27 by EllDale
This figure of 5000 is becoming a real millstone if you ask me. Wish it had never been quoted.
It is just a target, i think it's set about right and if the club progresses on and off the pitch it's achievable. Setting it at 3500 would have lacked ambition. It doesn't have to happen straight away, hopefully the club will progress over the next three or four years, the product on the pitch and infrastructure of the club will improve and so will attendances.
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Would you take out of the cup & play offs if it meant McNulty being sacked? on 08:49 - Mar 27 with 642 views
Promotion would make it an easier target to reach as away supporters figures may well increase. If you’re talking about 5000 home fans I think it would take a sustained period of onfield success to achieve.
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