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I remember reading that he was a bit of a 'do you know who I am?' c*nt. I probably shouldn't judge him on hearsay so I'll just judge him on that hairdo.
Bruh, those memories die hard. My mum made some Ukrainian bullshit for me when I was a kid. Platski or Vereneki or something. Basically dumplings that tasted of flour. I was having THE WORST TIME.
So I told her and she was like 'I've got something for it' and put cottage cheese on there. F*cking cottage cheese. Yeah thanks mum, I'm literally five. That's exactly what I want.
Took one bite and started crying. And that was the last time I ate that bullshit.
BTW - Lidl currently doing 'triple chocolate hot cross buns' for what its worth. They look shit though.
I get that and it's definitely impacted my experience but it could happen to any sport. We've had some right c*nts in charge here but if we got a Russian oligarch or some sort of Musk character would you quit supporting the Rs?
I mean yeah maybe. But again, I fast-forward the Trump bits and the Bruce Buffer intros and go straight to the fights.
And a flat Earth, pro-Trump, holocaust denier did get absolutely humbled on Saturday so that's good.
To be fair, Dana White is f**king awful these days. And, as is all too common with the pay-pay-views, they wheeled out Donald Trump this weekend for some reason.
The thing is, I watch it all the next day so I skip all that nonsense.
It's rough because I hate both of the teams in the Old Firm.
Rangers because they are dirty cheats and Celtic because of the actions of their fans.
I think the best outcome for the rest of that league is that Celtic win nine in a row and then Rangers always stop them getting that all-important tenth. Forever. That way neither will be truly happy.
Alright, settle down JimmyR. No need for two snarky posts but let's look into it.
"But most of the time I was rolling round on the floor trying to get some sweaty fellas hairy arm, knee or foot in a lock"
Yes, people doing MMA/BJJ are going to be sweaty and getting them in a submission is going to be difficult. That lines up with the usual "it's just two sweaty blokes rolling around on the floor" viewpoints.
There's a lot going on in those sequences. A high-level ground guy will have long sequences of moves and counter-moves. Take Khabib Nurmagedov when he was fighting. He'd essentially offer the opponent choices without them realising it. Go one way and he'd have a choke ready for you, go the other and he'd collapse your supporting arm and would gain a superior position. That sort of thing. It's like a chess match.
You've been on the mat, Jimmy. You know how hard it is to sweep someone who has mount on you or to get out of a body lock. There's a ton of technique needed because strength won't do it. Just because you're on the ground with a man who is sweating, doesn't make it a sport.
"So when you say educated do you mean from an armchair or on the end of a stiff jab?"
Both. Been watching UFC regularly since 2010. Probably seen 1000s of fights. Also watched a lot of post-fight analysis videos. You can't help but get a better understanding through that. I don't know shit about F1 but I'm sure if I watched it for 15 years, I'd understand racing lines and gear shit and whatever.
But also, I've done martial arts on and off since the 90s, including a few years of Muay Thai in an MMA gym and a few months of BJJ. Also, did some boxing. I get the fundamentals even if I am washed as f**k these days. I was never tough but I did love technique. So I'm not claiming to be owt but I'm not totally green either.
"One thing I did learn was that being able to use your elbows ,which is allowed in MMA, which surprised me is actually of no practical advantage. If you are so learned… why don’t you tell as all why?"
Eesh. Calm down, Jim mate. So learned. Arf! We're all Rs here. But anyway. Elbows are of no practical advantage? Well...
1 - fighting in 4 ounce gloves offers very little protection to your hand, especially when punching some thick-skulled bruiser called Tomas. The point of your elbow doesn't have as many nerve endings and won't break all your fingers if you land it.
2 - When you're in close range you might not be in range for a good jab or cross. Uppercuts are there and the old Tyson combo of hook to the body, uppercut off the same hand. Elbows are in range though and can be thrown without massively exposing your chin on that side. Also, the point of the elbow is closer to your core than your hand during a hook, so you can generate more force. Some top level boxers and MMA guys don't have lights out knockout power in their hands. If they can get in and throw elbows, they can do real damage. Difficult though.
3 - Elbows cut the skin easier. Anything above the eye could cause the sort of cut that stops a fight because of blood in the eye. It's a possible path to victory.
4 - Elbows are shorter and therefore harder to see, easier to not telegraph. It can present like a punch initially but then surprise people. You can also generate power in them easier which makes them work from different directions. 12 to 6 elbows (until recently banned in MMA), slicing elbows, reverse spinning elbows.
Check out this from Yair Rodriguez a few years back. Hard to see at first. He's bending down, his opponent's head is above him and he lands an elbow from there. Insane.
In high-level MMA it's absolutely got advantages. It's only got no practical advantage if you're not skilled enough to use it well. Not saying I ever was (although they did sound pretty decent on the heavy bag and mitts) but I'm pretty sure a lot of pro-MMA fighters use it as a tool successfully.
"And when you say done right do you mean with inverted wing backs, false 9s, possession based?
Pls tell us how and why UFC is done wrong?"
I don't get your point, Jim. Honestly, I'm not being funny. What are you getting at? Did I say something about football? I think you misunderstood my first sentence.
As for the UFC. Well, people who don't get it and don't know the complexities of it say it's boring, it's all on the ground and yet others will say it's too violent. On this thread you've got that.
"feels a bit brutal for me"
Fair enough. It's more brutal than football or golf or whatever. Maybe even boxing. Although the price for boxing in terms of brain damage is probably worse. But I get it.
"punching people on the floor when they’re clearly not able to defend themselves is disgusting. If I’m being honest I think it’s a ‘sport’ for yobs."
In MMA the job of the ref is to try to stop people getting hit when they are defenseless. That's right there in the rules. If a guy is knocked out and the opponent is trying to get extra shots in, the referee at that point should be literally diving in to stop it. It's unfortunate that extra shots happen but people can be flash KOed or even KOed and then wake up when they hit the floor. So they're going to try to secure the win.
As for the yobs. It's a mixed bag. Like football. Some are Nigel Quashie, others are Joey Barton, Roy Keane etc. There have been a lot of very decent people do very well in MMA. People with a background in martial arts are often decent because a) they don't have to prove themselves every time they go in a pub/club and b) sparring and fighting channels their aggression positively.
"The thing that gets me about MMA is it's so.....boring? They're obviously double hard madlads but way too much it is just rolling around the floor"
Some fights go a bit like that. Worse is when it's two people grappling up against the cage. To be honest, at this point I can see when a fight is going that way and I use the fast-forward button pretty liberally. There are too many fighters in the UFC at the moment because of the current TV deal.
"But like a few others, well into boxing… MMA is a bit boring. "
We're in an era where grappling is the more dominant thing. There's a wave of wrestler types coming out of Eastern Europe and wherever who are just a bit too good. These things are cyclical though.
One thing about MMA is that it's evolved martial arts more in 30 years than the 1000s of years before it. People are learning about what does and doesn't work. And then people are figuring out how to counter that. The sport was definitely a lot more fun five years ago but it still has plenty of great moments and fights.
But for me I'm often really bored by boxing matches. I love the sport, I love the technique of it but when two guys cancel each other out to a decision outcome, it feels like watching QPR in a 0-0 draw with Birmingham or some shit. Not saying boxing is boring but, like MMA, it can be.
"Yeah I should be more open minded to the idea of people kneeing each other in the face."
Yeah, probably. It's a super hard technique to pull off successfully. It involves athleticism, timing, probably some clever set up. It's not like there are two guys just mindlessly spamming knees at each other until one of them falls over and dies. There's a bit more to it than that.
That said, it's the one thing in MMA that makes me squeamish. A knee to the face, eesh!
"But, as ever, the circus arrived and started pitting podcast hosts against skint geriatric boxers"
I think you mean boxing. Jake Paul vs Mike Tyson. In fact it's the old MMA guys that he went through first. Ben Askren, Tyron Woodley, Anderson Silva, Nate Diaz. Although with him he's also a weight bully. He fought Mike Perry recently who is closer to his age but Jake was weightclasses bigger than him.
Anyway, I know that's all a bit of a long reply. But if half the people who don't watch it say it's too brutal and the other half say it's too boring, then clearly there's a lot of misunderstanding there. It can't be both.
That's like being both shit and the best to ever do it. Can't happen. Oh wait, QPR. We're both! :)
The comments on here are like when a woman at work says "football is just a load of blokes on a park running after a ball."
MMA done right is the best sport in the world. Admittedly, the UFC's current TV deal is more of a quantity vs quality thing at the moment but when you get a good card, like last night, you can't beat it.
The Championship in 2011. Winners since: Reading, Cardiff, Leicester, Bournemouth, Burnley, Newcastle, Wolves, Norwich, Leeds, Norwich again, Fulham, Burnley, Leicester again. It's not exactly the Honour Roll is it. You're basically a c**t if you've not won it by now. It's practically a participation trophy.
And we ruined it. Instead of being able to celebrate it we had to wait for some c**t to decide to allow us to go up and instead of having a proper celebration for doing it ourselves, we had to celebrate while losing 2-0 to Leeds.
2014. Look. It was the best day of my life. And I got married that year. I've literally never been happier than I was at Wembley but if I have to tell my non-existent grandkids that the best part of supporting QPR was getting a trophy for finishing fourth in the second tier, they'll phase into existence just to say 'shut up, Grandad, you chief.'
That'll be me. Non-existent grandad chief fourth place motherf**ker. That's what I am.
I support QPR despite QPR. I love them like I'd love my bastard non-existent grandkids.
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