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Effect on Team Form - Momentum Changer !!
at 18:18 12 Jan 2025

From memory the few cup games we won we fielded a weakened side. These stats for the last 10 years still show that 10 of 14 games were not won. I imagine the point of fielding a weakened team in the cup is to actually win the next league game rather than draw it so it has not been a great success.

However, this poor record in the cup has been ongoing for at least 25 years including early knock outs before the third round in our league 1 days and beyond my memory capacity as to what teams we fielded over 10 years ago.
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A bit of perspective please!
at 18:03 12 Jan 2025

First game drawn in 4th round. Man Utd v Leicester...
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Effect on Team Form - Momentum Changer !!
at 15:45 12 Jan 2025

So basically we won 4 out of 14, so in effect we don't win many games from resting players in cup ties which is the perception of many of us. It might be less defeats than we thought but the win ratio is not great as suspected.

I had forgotten Plymouth are at home to Oxford midweek so maybe the Pilgrims will end their winless league run without our charity aid being necessary.
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Effect on Team Form - Momentum Changer !!
at 19:15 11 Jan 2025

Fair enough it was a much changed team today and Leicester actually produced Premiership finishing today not in keeping with their league displays.

Looking at the bigger picture I am troubled by the previous three away games. Against Bristol City and Norwich we created very little and we had little possession but escaped with a point. Against Swansea they took the chances we allowed them to have and it was all over in half an hour. It seems that now we are doing well at home we have lost our way on our travels with today being an example of giving away too many scoring chances ruthlessly dispatched. I might have known it was Leicester's biggest cup win in over 40 years.

I am hoping resting key players will mean a good result at Plymouth but we have been here many times before where we have sacrificed cup ties and then lost the next league game anyway. A defeat at Plymouth and then a long trek to Hull could see us slipping down the table if we lose that too. It is not the result today that worries me about Plymouth but the fact they have not won a league game since bonfire night. Sounds right up our street to change that...
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Effect on Team Form - Momentum Changer !!
at 17:26 11 Jan 2025

The only immediate concern is we play Plymouth next. They had a real boost winning at Brentford and no Rooney whereas we got embarrassed today. No doubt Plymouth will be more confident now facing us and our record against them leaves a lot to be desired.
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The 'most exits in the third round' record that we hold.
at 17:16 11 Jan 2025

True enough as we won at Leicester last season. It is correct Brighton and Bournemouth are better than Leicester, but then people may suggest West Brom and Norwich are better than us going by league positions.

Today is a reminder we are nowhere near good enough for the Premiership if Leicester aren't either so we should forget about any nonsense about making the play offs after a good recent run.

You are right it is a shocking result today but whenever we take a big following away in the cup we usually lose.
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The 'most exits in the third round' record that we hold.
at 17:01 11 Jan 2025

Plymouth have been dreadful away from home so naturally they win at Brentford while we got stuffed. Morale booster for them and the opposite for us for next week's game.

With West Brom losing 5-1 at Bournemouth and Norwich losing 4-0 at home to Brighton and our result today, it shows that any mistakes and letting Premiership teams boss possession means you get punished as these teams more likely to take their chances compared to Championship sides.
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Frey Goal
at 00:08 7 Jan 2025

Agree with all this and good to see us looking assured at home although I am a bit troubled by recent away performances.

The frustration for me tonight was our chances spurned. Luton can go home feeling that the first goal was handball and the winner was a fluke when we had enough good opportunities to have won comfortably. We could easily have not scored but luckily we got the breaks for both goals. We didn't put the game to bed and they really should have made it 2-2 at the end with the free header.
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Frey Goal
at 23:21 6 Jan 2025

Yes that's right. VAR would have ruled it out in the Premiership. Fortunately the officials missed it but a good finish from such a tight angle.

I am shocked we actually won. I didn't think we would win five in a row at home, I didn't think we would beat Luton three times and I was sure Luton wouldn't lose 10 in a row away and we would be charitable ending their poor away record. Mind you some of our finishing was charitable as we should have scored more.
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Rest of the Championship thread
at 18:15 4 Jan 2025

I would agree if Leeds did that against teams in no danger like Middlesbrough and Bristol City. What I don't welcome is the big lift that will give Hull. We have to go there shortly so they will believe, if they can put three past Leeds, they can do that to us for a third time in a row. It won't help that we have to get from Plymouth to Hull. Last season we had to journey from Swansea to Hull and got thumped by those Tigers.
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Rest of the Championship thread
at 16:50 4 Jan 2025

Leeds blown a 3-1 lead at Hull late on rather annoyingly.
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Angus Gunn charged by FA
at 17:53 3 Jan 2025

Delia must be putting something in their food that makes them lose their heads.
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New Year’s Frey delight for resurgent Rangers – Report
at 15:05 3 Jan 2025

Terrific report as always and good to see us actually play well in a 1230 kick off for a change. Can't make out Watford at all. They lost 3-0 at Luton yet won 6-2 at Sheffield Wednesday. Mind you I cannot work out Portsmouth either. Hopeless away but have won their last three home games 3-0, 4-1 and 4-0. Will Plymouth and Hull get the same new manager bounce as Oxford? Really difficult to predict who will go down so we cannot get complacent or drop the performance levels yet as one bad month could change the picture again.
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Promotion to the Premier League is tough.But is survival effectively impossible?
at 16:08 2 Jan 2025

You are right we did used to be able to compete but the Premiership forming and the ever growing financial gap between clubs gets wider all the time. The problem for us smaller clubs is the top 4 in the Premiership accumulating even more wealth from being in the Champions League often the same clubs. It is hard to see us ever get near the top 6 again with the wealth gap. Forest are doing brilliantly but there is no way they will finish above Liverpool this season who have benefitted from being in the Champions league more often than not.
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How have things changed so drastically in last ten games
at 21:04 1 Jan 2025

It was a good performance and win today. I have long complained about our home record and it seems we are sorting it out. Very pleasing to beat a team today in the play off picture. However, at the same time as the home form is picking up, we don't now look so good away and don't have many shots on goal to trouble the home team. I appreciate we did pick up two points in the last three away games but offensively we offered very little goal threat in each game. I guess I want us to be good home and away at the same time rather than it being one or the other.
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Rest of the Championship thread
at 15:38 1 Jan 2025

Rowett is a decent manager and winning three on the bounce makes a big difference pulling away from the bottom. Oxford now have a fighting chance to survive as do Stoke appointing Mark Robins. These guys know how to manage unlike Rooney.
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Other results
at 17:51 30 Dec 2024

Well Norwich are not in the top 11 now as things stand. I will take your point but they are now 12th and we haven't beaten any of the current 11 sides above them which is fact. Obviously teams in the middle flit between the bottom half and top half so the picture changes.
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Other results
at 22:49 29 Dec 2024

Agreed we have had good draws against teams at the top but on the other side of the coin we lost easily at home to Hull, who then went 10 games without a win, lost at home to Portsmouth and drew with Plymouth, two clubs who have been useless away from home. I don't trust us to win the return matches with the teams below us which is why I think we will need to beat some of the play off contenders. That might be difficult if we keep on having 25% possession and one shot at goal against top half sides.
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Other results
at 17:27 29 Dec 2024

So far we haven't beaten any of the teams in the top 11 and may well need to change that statistic in the second half of the season. Hull and Cardiff managed to see out their games today which we didn't. The results elsewhere show it is too early to think we are safe. Looks like Oxford have the new manager bounce with 6 points from two home games so the picture changes when they looked to be in free fall before Christmas. This is one division you can never relax in.
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Budgies vs Rs Match Thread
at 15:21 29 Dec 2024

Such is modern football we conceded 8 minutes from time. Not like the good old days where it would have been a last minute leveller. It would have been worse if Norwich scored the goal in the 96th minute. The frustration is we rarely win at Carrow Road so we were close to doing it but we were lucky with the own goal in first half stoppage time and didn't do enough to merit the win. I am happy enough with the point with that defence.

Swansea have conceded a daft goal against Luton poncing about in defence. It is the scourge of football today playing out from the back and conceding stupid goals. The win over Preston put us above them but two games later we trail them by 3 points. How quickly the table can change so the longer we go without Cook and Morrison is troubling.
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