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Bob Crow has died! 10:14 - Mar 11 with 10445 views

Juzzie

Just heard on the news.

[Post edited 11 Mar 2014 10:15]

Bob Crow has died! on 21:09 - Mar 11 with 1674 views

izlingtonhoop

I'm gonna stage my own minutes applause on Saturday.
Seems more important to me than Tom Finney.

Bob Crow has died! on 22:01 - Mar 11 with 1621 views

Aunt_Nelly

Bob Crow has died! on 19:01 - Mar 11 by hoopstilidie

Nope comparing your hypocritical damning of people for their less than "classy" remarks to a man's death to yours for a woman's death.
I didn't click on your links.
Not sure what the Walt is about but then again you rarely make any sense.
I'll take "odd" from you as a compliment if it means I'm nothing like you.

Edit: In answer to your "classy" links. http://labour25.com/

[Post edited 11 Mar 2014 19:09]

Not hypocritical at all.
As many others have quite rightly stated, Thatcher and Crow are incomparable.

Also sorry to disappoint but I don't particularly share Crow's politics either and when we were both involved on the same project a few years back we didn't get on at all. However I did respect his work ethic and sincerity. He was excellent at his job.

BTW superb link Tony. Is that website like Reuters but for Walts?

The dancing Jimmy Saville gif and anti-semitic content on the second page http://tinyurl.com/nm5822u gives it real credibility.

Bob Crow has died! on 22:11 - Mar 11 with 1600 views

hoopstilidie

Bob Crow has died! on 22:01 - Mar 11 by Aunt_Nelly

No idea of the full content, never seen it before today. I wanted to show you that garbage isn't limited to the right wing, that site kept coming up when I searched the stories i wanted to link so I used it, just saved me posting a dozen links or so as it names the names. Didn't get to page 2, didn't need to.
Revelling in somebodies death while castigating somebody else for doing the same is, of course, hypocritical.
Don't care what your politics are and I never alluded to it. You linked about Tory peados, I showed you labour are the same, was in reply, nothing more.
Still don't get what you mean with the Walt name-calling and I don't much care so you might want to ditch the effort.

Edit: Just looked at the link, that's not page 2 of the link I gave you, it's altogether a different website. may be produced by the same people, I don't know, but certainly entirely separate to the one I linked re; Labour's peados.

Oh and by the way, I guess as you know my name then you've got it from Facebook, if so, do the right thing and remove yourself, I can't abide people that sneak around without the guts to identify themselves. Nasty, snidey little bottlejobs.

[Post edited 11 Mar 2014 22:20]

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Bob Crow has died! on 00:26 - Mar 12 with 1532 views

smegma

Bob Crow has died! on 22:11 - Mar 11 by hoopstilidie

[Post edited 11 Mar 2014 22:20]

You mention garbage ??

http://www.rmt.org.uk/news/rmt-forces-government-admission-on-sewage/

Bob Crow has died! on 01:07 - Mar 12 with 1513 views

johnjo1

RIP.a man who stood by his beliefs never took a bribe,thoughts with your family

Bob Crow has died! on 08:13 - Mar 12 with 1472 views

Aunt_Nelly

Bob Crow has died! on 22:11 - Mar 11 by hoopstilidie

[Post edited 11 Mar 2014 22:20]

A couple of brief points before I put you back on ignore.

1. My links to the latest Tory wrong'uns in the dock/ cells were a refute to Stevec claim that Tories were class. Your posting of that dubious website does nothing to contradict that. If anything, it actually backs up my view.

2. I have never used facebook. It's for stalkers and sad cnts who can't make friends in real life.

3. I didn't coin your moniker. You earned it elsewhere.

Adios.

[IGNORE]

Bob Crow has died! on 08:21 - Mar 12 with 1457 views

doogi55

you either benifited from thatcher bought your council house made a bundle
on it but ask your self this where your kids going to get a home.
she destroyed lives and communties and business ,she also belived its everyone for themselves which creates a divided country.she created a police force that thinks its above the law
bob crow caused me to walk to work now and again.

Bob Crow has died! on 10:46 - Mar 12 with 1418 views

HantsR

Bob Crow has died! on 11:35 - Mar 12 with 1395 views

doogi55

well he didnt buy it so it would not be a council house anymore.
half the tory goverment are moving there money around to dodge paying tax.
did bob crow having a council house hurt you or cause you to loose your job and destroy peoples future. i am not left wing but you can tell the dirrence between crow and thatcher 1 cared for people 1 didnt give a crap about working people

Bob Crow has died! on 12:02 - Mar 12 with 1367 views

TheBlob

Bob Crow has died! on 21:09 - Mar 11 by izlingtonhoop
I'm gonna stage my own minutes applause on Saturday. Seems more important to me than Tom Finney.

Don't remember Tom Finney earning £150k a year.
Got knighted for being a striker though.

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Bob Crow has died! on 12:27 - Mar 12 with 1337 views

QPR_John

Bob Crow has died! on 11:35 - Mar 12 by doogi55
well he didnt buy it so it would not be a council house anymore. half the tory goverment are moving there money around to dodge paying tax. did bob crow having a council house hurt you or cause you to loose your job and destroy peoples future. i am not left wing but you can tell the dirrence between crow and thatcher 1 cared for people 1 didnt give a crap about working people

Did Bob Crow care about the workers or just members of the RMT.

Bob Crow has died! on 14:19 - Mar 12 with 1294 views

smegma

Bob Crow has died! on 12:27 - Mar 12 by QPR_John
Did Bob Crow care about the workers or just members of the RMT.

He gave his opinion on all workers in this country if you care to do some research. He supported other workers when they were in dispute with their employers. He also done a great job for us RMT members.

Bob Crow has died! on 14:26 - Mar 12 with 1290 views

smegma

on 01:00 - Jan 1 by

Ad as he pointed out to Julia Hartley-Brewer on LBC radio about a month ago 'what would you prefer, someone who lives in a council house who pays his rent on time as well as the council tax, or someone who is in arrears for year on year ? Tell me why I cant live n a council house because of the amount of money I earn ? Where is there a council rule saying m tenancy is means tested ? ". THERE ISN'T ONE.

EVERY single person who quotes this nonsense about how much he earns and the fact he doesn't own his house are just showing envy I'm afraid.
And once again, please stop quoting he earns £150k a year. He gets paid £90k by the RMT according to their accounts. Its a lie by the press.

Bob Crow has died! on 14:55 - Mar 12 with 1265 views

QPR_John

Bob Crow has died! on 14:19 - Mar 12 by smegma
He gave his opinion on all workers in this country if you care to do some research. He supported other workers when they were in dispute with their employers. He also done a great job for us RMT members.

My point being that showing concern for all workers sits heavily with being paid to put the interest of a particular group over all others. Not a criticism of Bob Crow at all just a simple statement.

Bob Crow has died! on 15:12 - Mar 12 with 1243 views

QPunkR

smegma - I think you'll find he doesn't get paid anything anymore.

Shit but local

Bob Crow has died! on 15:52 - Mar 12 with 1214 views

QPR_John

Bob Crow has died! on 14:26 - Mar 12 by smegma

When The right to buy was introduced the main argument used to oppose it was the reduction of the pool of housing available to those who could not afford to buy. Does not living in a council house when you can afford to buy amount to the same thing.

Bob Crow has died! on 16:00 - Mar 12 with 1202 views

Cliff

Bob Crow has died! on 15:52 - Mar 12 by QPR_John
When The right to buy was introduced the main argument used to oppose it was the reduction of the pool of housing available to those who could not afford to buy. Does not living in a council house when you can afford to buy amount to the same thing.

Of course not, it is still in the pool of houses, which it wouldn't be if he had purchased it.

Also why should he be forced to move out of his community just because he has the capability to do so? He obviously believed in social housing, I bet if he had bought his own place there would be some on here saying how hypocritical it was to own your own and support social housing.

Bob Crow has died! on 16:17 - Mar 12 with 1177 views

baz_qpr

Bob Crow has died! on 15:52 - Mar 12 by QPR_John
When The right to buy was introduced the main argument used to oppose it was the reduction of the pool of housing available to those who could not afford to buy. Does not living in a council house when you can afford to buy amount to the same thing.

If you have only means tested social housing you end up with a slum full of only poor people with no local business to support the community.

Don't really understand why some are in such a rush to recreate Paris in London rich areas and slums and all the middle in the suburbs.

As to Mr Crow, whilst I disagree with many things he said and agreed with many others, it cannot be denied he was the most effective Union Leader of his generation, his members benefited no end from his actions and contrary to popular belief he always new when to fight and when to compromise which is why he was so effective for so long and so vilified by the right wing press

Bob Crow has died! on 16:25 - Mar 12 with 1158 views

BrianMcCarthy

RIP.

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Bob Crow has died! on 17:03 - Mar 12 with 1137 views

QPR_John

Bob Crow has died! on 16:00 - Mar 12 by Cliff
Of course not, it is still in the pool of houses, which it wouldn't be if he had purchased it. Also why should he be forced to move out of his community just because he has the capability to do so? He obviously believed in social housing, I bet if he had bought his own place there would be some on here saying how hypocritical it was to own your own and support social housing.

I think you misunderstand me I am not criticising anybody living in a council house no matter their earnings or political persuasion just the idea that it is acceptable for some and not others. I am glad you agree with me.

Bob Crow has died! on 17:05 - Mar 12 with 1132 views

RangersAreBack

Bob Crow has died! on 16:00 - Mar 12 by Cliff
Of course not, it is still in the pool of houses, which it wouldn't be if he had purchased it. Also why should he be forced to move out of his community just because he has the capability to do so? He obviously believed in social housing, I bet if he had bought his own place there would be some on here saying how hypocritical it was to own your own and support social housing.

Because there are others with a genuine need waiting for a house.

Bob Crow has died! on 18:41 - Mar 12 with 1071 views

hoopstilidie

Bob Crow has died! on 08:13 - Mar 12 by Aunt_Nelly

What a happy coincidence that you took me off ignore just in time to see my post to you. You've never ignored me and never will, you're far too stalky for that you weird little man.
Happy to see you have absolutely no answer whatever to my post just more gibberish to cover up your sad ignorance on any matter whatever.
You keep up with the walt bollox and then say it was from elsewhere, what a crock, the only interactive sites I use are this, facebook and twitter, no others,and if the Walt thing alludes to Walter Mitty and claims I've lied about something to make myself look better then I'll challenge you or anybody else to name it, I'll provide proof to anything I've ever said, there's nothing at all, so more lying sad little boy twaddle from you.
I've shown you up for the hypocrite you are, deal with it you idiotic tvvatbag.

I've written this to you banking on you miraculously taking me off ignore again just in time to see it, you little psychic you.

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Bob Crow has died! on 20:17 - Mar 12 with 1039 views

Brightonhoop

Bob Crow has died! on 17:05 - Mar 12 by RangersAreBack
Because there are others with a genuine need waiting for a house.

Isn't that the point? Successive Governments have not replaced the sold stock QED.

Bob Crow has died! on 20:56 - Mar 12 with 1000 views

HollowayRanger

way i see it

THATCHER set me up for life

CROW made me late for work

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Bob Crow has died! on 21:38 - Mar 12 with 1158 views

gobbles

Were Thatcher and Crow so different? In many ways, Thatcher only came to power because of the type of union leader that Crow was.
Thatcher was given a mandate to smash the unions because of the miners who brought down the Heath government. The NUM then had that sort of power and they used it to force huge above inflation payrises (in the 1970s they went on strike demanding a 43% pay rise) because they knew if they went on strike, there would be power cuts all over the country and the government would be under extreme pressure to settle the strike as soon as possible. It's the sort of power all workers dream of, but when the NUM tried to take on Thatcher, the Goverment was prepared.
In the same way, the RMT under Crow held London to ransom. He knew, if they went on strike, so many people were inconvenienced that there was extreme pressure on the London mayor to settle, so they were able to get almost whatever they wanted in negotiations.
One of the things that always used to annoy me about tube strikes was the lazy way they were reported, so he was always allowed to compare payrises of tube drivers to bankers, thus creating the myth that everyone who works in London is a millionaire banker or lawyer.
It is strange that so many comments since he died are along of "he inconvenienced me a bit", like no one else matters.
I wasn't greatly inconvenienced by Tube strikes because I have a car and don't work 9-5.
The people I always felt sorry for (and who were generally totally overlooked in the tube drivers v bankers coverage) were the people who couldn't walk or drive to work, because maybe they had a disability, maybe they were old, maybe the worked 10 miles from home). A lot of poor people lost a lot of money in Tube strikes, low-paid workers, hourly-paid workers, casual workers, who could not get to work and because of that wouldn't be paid.
I don't blame Crow or the RMT for that. It's not like getting a job as a train driver is a closed shop. They just used a powerful position to get their way, something management do all the time. But his interest was always solely for his members and not for the workers of London.

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