| where do you start? 22:51 - Nov 1 with 3586 views | basilrobbiereborn |
It's hard to convey to anyone who wasn't there how abject that was today. In some games we have at least started brightly before fading, but there was no sign of us doing so today.
we were sluggish from the off, didn't move the ball anywhere near quickly enough, had little or no width and weren't capable of getting in behind them. When they had the ball, we were so weak in midfield that it beggared belief. Perkins does tend to divide opinion, but we sorely missed him today.
I am really struggling to find any positives - I thought Daniels played well, and Ranger tried hard to little avail. Aside from that, I can hardly think of anything.
The first goal looked suspiciously offside, although there wasn't much of a protest, and the second is a product of really naive defending which, to be fair, we haven't been guilty of all that often. In the end, they won at a canter having played pretty poorly themselves. It was a wretched match.
At least Clark is under no illusions about the size of the task he faces. I'll be amazed if we don't see some new faces this week. We need them. |  |
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| where do you start? on 23:03 - Nov 1 with 2899 views | terminallytangerine |
A depressing day all round: the only positive for me was that Clark seemed a little more animated on the touchline than we are used to and Nile Ranger was given 90 minutes.
It's the inability to close opposition players down that gets me and the crab like determination to go sideways rather than run at the opposition. Their second goal showed what can be done when players take risks and get behind the full backs. We were just too slow in doing that.
I suppose the only consolation was that it is still early days for a new manager though the sands of time have already begun to make a significant sand dune in the desert that our season has become. | | | |
| where do you start? on 23:06 - Nov 1 with 2889 views | Osbourne |
Yes,
Pity Perkins and Cubero were not available to Mr Clark today.
The Pool fans have got to get behind Mr Clark though. Lee Clark kicked every ball today. We should of given him the welcome he deserved. It is essential he stays. Guess what? He will!
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| where do you start? on 23:07 - Nov 1 with 2882 views | BISONS |
Apart from the bizarre team selection, start as you mean to go on Mr Clark, it looked like a group of players mourning the loss of their 'leader'.
That was by far as bad a performance I've witnessed for years. Lets be clear, it wouldn't have happened under Riga.
Clark and Thompson don't fill you with much hope coupled with our owners in self destruct mode. Relegation is a certainty unless we can borrow 5 premier league fringe players but we know that's as likely as Delfouneso putting in a performance. | | | |
| where do you start? on 23:10 - Nov 1 with 2872 views | terminallytangerine |
| where do you start? on 23:07 - Nov 1 by BISONS |
Apart from the bizarre team selection, start as you mean to go on Mr Clark, it looked like a group of players mourning the loss of their 'leader'.
That was by far as bad a performance I've witnessed for years. Lets be clear, it wouldn't have happened under Riga.
Clark and Thompson don't fill you with much hope coupled with our owners in self destruct mode. Relegation is a certainty unless we can borrow 5 premier league fringe players but we know that's as likely as Delfouneso putting in a performance. |
Think they've been mourning the loss of their leader all season then. | | | |
| where do you start? on 23:15 - Nov 1 with 2865 views | BISONS |
| where do you start? on 23:10 - Nov 1 by terminallytangerine |
Think they've been mourning the loss of their leader all season then. |
Bar a couple of poor performances the team I have watched has been well structured and the effort has been there, the fact they aren't good enough is irrelevant. We all know who offered these players up.
Today was abysmal and worrying considering a new man was in the dugout. | | | |
| where do you start? on 23:30 - Nov 1 with 2837 views | FY4MIKEH |
| where do you start? on 23:15 - Nov 1 by BISONS |
Bar a couple of poor performances the team I have watched has been well structured and the effort has been there, the fact they aren't good enough is irrelevant. We all know who offered these players up.
Today was abysmal and worrying considering a new man was in the dugout. |
Riga was a clown. Dead behind the eyes. Clark will be far better. That team today was Riga's and Koko's. Support the boys. | | | |
| where do you start? on 23:40 - Nov 1 with 2824 views | Hertsseasider |
| where do you start? on 23:30 - Nov 1 by FY4MIKEH |
Riga was a clown. Dead behind the eyes. Clark will be far better. That team today was Riga's and Koko's. Support the boys. |
Stand by to be amazed my friend. See you Wednesday. | |
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| where do you start? on 00:21 - Nov 2 with 2794 views | OldSkool |
The passing game went out of the window today.
Even more fans will boycott the games, if this negative, kick & rush football is a sign of things to come. | | | |
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| where do you start? on 02:08 - Nov 2 with 2757 views | Fast_Fourier_Transfo |
| where do you start? on 00:21 - Nov 2 by OldSkool |
The passing game went out of the window today.
Even more fans will boycott the games, if this negative, kick & rush football is a sign of things to come. |
It was just rubbish football, if you can call it that. | | | |
| where do you start? on 08:03 - Nov 2 with 2697 views | Bedfordseasider |
| where do you start? on 02:08 - Nov 2 by Fast_Fourier_Transfo |
It was just rubbish football, if you can call it that. |
The only redeeming feature today was the fine quality of the Ale in the P&T pre match & the reading out of a couple of posts from old AVFTT on the Virgin Pendolino en-route back south. Such as this snippet from Mozalini
"He's(Lee Clark) also too fat to wear a suit, he's not comfortable in it and spends half the match hoisting his trousers up because his gut keeps slipping over his belt. Get yourself a shell suit with an elasticated waist. You're in Blackpool now no one will call you for it."
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| where do you start? on 08:50 - Nov 2 with 2662 views | straightatthewall |
| where do you start? on 08:22 - Nov 2 by Curryman |
What I don't understand are those posters who are already saying Clark isn't good enough. For goodness sake the man has only been with us since Thursday and doesn't at present fully know all the players.
We have been in freefall since playing Ipswich last season, when Mick McCarthy found us out and we started out descent down the table. Since then little has changed, despite having four managers and a team of misfits, journeymen and cast offs, instead of the heart of a championship team with new additions.
Our heart has been ripped out , any hope that supporters had, has gone, all joy at attending a game at home or away has become a torture whilst the O's continue with their hard faced money grabbing ritual.
I can personally see no end to this ongoing distressing treatment of the fans and just hope that Valeri can provide us with a ray of hope.
In the meantime, Division 1 here we come. [Post edited 2 Nov 2014 8:23]
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Robbie,
we've needed new players since June.
Mike,
I'm sorry, but if you think this is a Riga/Koko issue and Clark/Koko can change it with some sort of 'new approach' then i have to say that you're naive. |  |
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| where do you start? on 09:04 - Nov 2 with 2647 views | Fountain |
| where do you start? on 08:50 - Nov 2 by straightatthewall |
Robbie,
we've needed new players since June.
Mike,
I'm sorry, but if you think this is a Riga/Koko issue and Clark/Koko can change it with some sort of 'new approach' then i have to say that you're naive. |
We all know where the problem lies and anybody who cannot see that is, well, not very bright.
That said bringing Dunne in like that, basically a statement saying 'everyone has a chance with me' was not a good start by Clark and if he didn't know enough about the players he shouldn't have picked the team for he made a mighty mess ot team selection.
My verdict on who is upto it at this level based on yesterday and their positions:
Lewis....Yes
Daniels....No (not as RB)
Rent...Yes
Clarke...No
Dunne...NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
McMahon....No
Lundstrom...NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Delf*....No
Ranger*....Maybe
Miller*...No
Oriol...No (LB yes)
* these 3 players and Zoko are the same player. We can only ever play 2 at one go MAX. | |
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| where do you start? on 09:17 - Nov 2 with 2631 views | straightatthewall |
| where do you start? on 09:04 - Nov 2 by Fountain |
We all know where the problem lies and anybody who cannot see that is, well, not very bright.
That said bringing Dunne in like that, basically a statement saying 'everyone has a chance with me' was not a good start by Clark and if he didn't know enough about the players he shouldn't have picked the team for he made a mighty mess ot team selection.
My verdict on who is upto it at this level based on yesterday and their positions:
Lewis....Yes
Daniels....No (not as RB)
Rent...Yes
Clarke...No
Dunne...NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
McMahon....No
Lundstrom...NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Delf*....No
Ranger*....Maybe
Miller*...No
Oriol...No (LB yes)
* these 3 players and Zoko are the same player. We can only ever play 2 at one go MAX. |
Hard to disagree with that Founts. Not seen much from Ranger other than more fight than Miller is showing. | |
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| where do you start? on 09:39 - Nov 2 with 2605 views | BOYBILLY |
Need new faces? Understatement of the year basil and something we have needed for a while now and only one man to blame, so blame him rather than burying your head in the sand or slagging Riga and supporters who want to protest. | | | |
| where do you start? on 09:59 - Nov 2 with 2581 views | Tang67 |
| where do you start? on 09:39 - Nov 2 by BOYBILLY |
Need new faces? Understatement of the year basil and something we have needed for a while now and only one man to blame, so blame him rather than burying your head in the sand or slagging Riga and supporters who want to protest. |
Some good posts on here - tend to agree it is a case of reaping what you sow the pre and early season has been a shambles and in the final analysis there are too many players who are simply not good enough .This can sometimes be compensated by a strong work and teamwork ethic which appears yo be lacking .The problem we have is that the clock is ticking and I am sure I read some amateur statistician saying we would need to average 1.3 points a game to survive if so Clarke has a massive task
I still think we can get over the line - we need at least 5,quality additions to give.the new manager any chance of meeting his objective
Yesterday's game was.awful but Clarke will have a clearer view of what is required | |
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| where do you start? on 10:00 - Nov 2 with 2581 views | Osbourne |
| where do you start? on 09:39 - Nov 2 by BOYBILLY |
Need new faces? Understatement of the year basil and something we have needed for a while now and only one man to blame, so blame him rather than burying your head in the sand or slagging Riga and supporters who want to protest. |
The Pool fans should of given Lee Clark a much better welcome than they did on Saturday.
Unfortunately, like it or not, 'The King is gone, long live the King.'
For whatever reason, Mr Riga produced 6 points out of 42. Also a first round exit from the Capital Cup at the hands of Division 2 Shrewsbury.
93 points left to play for plus the FA Cup. I suspect that Lee Clark will do slightly better.
The Pool fans should of given Lee Clark a much better welcome than they did.
We will see, we will see.
Much as I liked Mr Riga, I prefer Mr Clark.
We will see.
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| where do you start? on 10:31 - Nov 2 with 2554 views | Mephistopheles |
| where do you start? on 09:59 - Nov 2 by Tang67 |
Some good posts on here - tend to agree it is a case of reaping what you sow the pre and early season has been a shambles and in the final analysis there are too many players who are simply not good enough .This can sometimes be compensated by a strong work and teamwork ethic which appears yo be lacking .The problem we have is that the clock is ticking and I am sure I read some amateur statistician saying we would need to average 1.3 points a game to survive if so Clarke has a massive task
I still think we can get over the line - we need at least 5,quality additions to give.the new manager any chance of meeting his objective
Yesterday's game was.awful but Clarke will have a clearer view of what is required |
I'd say it's a case of reaping what you failed to sow from the second Holloway departed.
We never ever capitalised on his time here and used it to out advantage to create a legacy/continue to be competitive (no-one expects instant Prem football again BTW). Bloomfield Road was rocking to capacity and while I appreciate 'glory hunters' aren't everyone's cup of tea, we could/should have converted a few of them to us for good!
I'm wholly convinced that this is calculated and planned 'winding down of expectation' i.e. destruction because we are not spending someone else's cash any more.
Sorry baz back in my box I go...   | | | |
| where do you start? on 12:34 - Nov 2 with 2479 views | FY4MIKEH |
| where do you start? on 10:31 - Nov 2 by Mephistopheles |
I'd say it's a case of reaping what you failed to sow from the second Holloway departed.
We never ever capitalised on his time here and used it to out advantage to create a legacy/continue to be competitive (no-one expects instant Prem football again BTW). Bloomfield Road was rocking to capacity and while I appreciate 'glory hunters' aren't everyone's cup of tea, we could/should have converted a few of them to us for good!
I'm wholly convinced that this is calculated and planned 'winding down of expectation' i.e. destruction because we are not spending someone else's cash any more.
Sorry baz back in my box I go... |
Clark's reception was downright disgusting. I was ashamed to stand there whilst Riga's name was glorified. Lee Clark is our manager and it's time to get behind him. | | | |
| where do you start? on 12:59 - Nov 2 with 2456 views | Wizaard |
| where do you start? on 23:03 - Nov 1 by terminallytangerine |
A depressing day all round: the only positive for me was that Clark seemed a little more animated on the touchline than we are used to and Nile Ranger was given 90 minutes.
It's the inability to close opposition players down that gets me and the crab like determination to go sideways rather than run at the opposition. Their second goal showed what can be done when players take risks and get behind the full backs. We were just too slow in doing that.
I suppose the only consolation was that it is still early days for a new manager though the sands of time have already begun to make a significant sand dune in the desert that our season has become. |
Post match, Clark said we'd looked bright in training, but once onto the pitch, lacked any confidence. Not surprising, but it's a vicious circle we need to break and quickly. Pity there's a midweek game, as it would have been helpful to have a full week's training when he can get his ideas over, but hopefully, he can change a couple of things before Wednesday.
We need fresh blood to try and reverse things. Sooner the better. |  | | |
| where do you start? on 13:37 - Nov 2 with 2418 views | Southshorepool |
| where do you start? on 12:59 - Nov 2 by Wizaard |
Post match, Clark said we'd looked bright in training, but once onto the pitch, lacked any confidence. Not surprising, but it's a vicious circle we need to break and quickly. Pity there's a midweek game, as it would have been helpful to have a full week's training when he can get his ideas over, but hopefully, he can change a couple of things before Wednesday.
We need fresh blood to try and reverse things. Sooner the better. |
It was a shit team selection. That starting 11 was never going to win the game. Lundstram, Mcmahon and Oriol J in midfield meanwhile on the bench Cwyka, Orlandi, Mellis and Oriol E. | |
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| where do you start? on 13:54 - Nov 2 with 2406 views | BOYBILLY |
| where do you start? on 13:37 - Nov 2 by Southshorepool |
It was a shit team selection. That starting 11 was never going to win the game. Lundstram, Mcmahon and Oriol J in midfield meanwhile on the bench Cwyka, Orlandi, Mellis and Oriol E. |
Managers fault we lost then, nothing to do with the Chairman?  | | | |
| where do you start? on 14:02 - Nov 2 with 2394 views | Southshorepool |
| where do you start? on 13:54 - Nov 2 by BOYBILLY |
Managers fault we lost then, nothing to do with the Chairman? |
I didn't say that. I know why we have limited players and who that is down to but that still does not excuse not utilising the players we have. In fact due to KO's lack of recruitment policy I'd argue it's absolutely vital we play players in their natural positions. | |
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| where do you start? on 14:03 - Nov 2 with 2393 views | ArchibaldKnox |
| where do you start? on 13:54 - Nov 2 by BOYBILLY |
Managers fault we lost then, nothing to do with the Chairman? |
Might have been different if Ranger had taken the golden chance in front of the North in the first half. That was put on plate for him by Miller's clever break, but Ranger miskicked and fell over his own tangled feet. Having said that, we didn't create much else for the rest of the game. | | | |
| where do you start? on 14:38 - Nov 2 with 2350 views | Osbourne |
| where do you start? on 14:03 - Nov 2 by ArchibaldKnox |
Might have been different if Ranger had taken the golden chance in front of the North in the first half. That was put on plate for him by Miller's clever break, but Ranger miskicked and fell over his own tangled feet. Having said that, we didn't create much else for the rest of the game. |
Southshorepool,
Yes I agree with you. It was a great pity that Perkins was out suspended and Cubero still injured. Mr Clark then had limited options in midfield. Lundstram and McMahon centrally and Oriol and Delfouneso wider, tried to win the midfield battle with Ipswich, but Ipswich kept the ball down better than us and they had any luck that was going. Ipswich's first goal was the result of a miss cue. Their 2nd goal though was good. Great work was it from Bishop? Whoever it was, came in beautifully from Ipswich's right, cut the ball back inch perfect for Murphy to score. Bishop? could easily of had a penalty if a tackle had gone in - which it didn't!
Nile Ranger had his chance, teed up by Miller who crosses well from the left, but Nile couldn't take it. I think that Ranger should be given his chance though as he could score goals and is great fun! Tuck your shirt in Nile and for goodness sake, someone give him a pair of shorts that fit!
O for a Liam Brady type figure in central midfield to open defences up!
Lee Clark needs to get thinking quickly now, he will of learnt a lot from Saturday.
As I have said already in various posts. I think that he can sort it out. Pool fans should give him a chance because Championship football at Bloomfield Road 2015-16 is, how shall I say it......................................................................ESSENTIAL!
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