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First Gulf War 19:18 - Jun 4 with 1667 viewsLoyal

The allies had the Iraq army and their supporters on their knees.
Then it stopped.
Nothing.
Is this the reason why we have what we have today ?

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First Gulf War on 19:27 - Jun 4 with 1648 viewsexiledclaseboy

No. At least part of the reason we have this today is because we actually did remove Saddam in 2003 but did nothing about the aftermath, allowing fundamentalism to fester and then flourish.

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First Gulf War on 19:30 - Jun 4 with 1635 views3swan

First Gulf War on 19:27 - Jun 4 by exiledclaseboy

No. At least part of the reason we have this today is because we actually did remove Saddam in 2003 but did nothing about the aftermath, allowing fundamentalism to fester and then flourish.


Which is the problem in any country we get involved in. The war is won (if it ever is) but it's the peace that's lost
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First Gulf War on 19:32 - Jun 4 with 1630 viewswestwalesed

First Gulf War on 19:27 - Jun 4 by exiledclaseboy

No. At least part of the reason we have this today is because we actually did remove Saddam in 2003 but did nothing about the aftermath, allowing fundamentalism to fester and then flourish.


Islamist terrorism existed in the world long before 2003.

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First Gulf War on 19:34 - Jun 4 with 1620 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

Iraq is a play ground compared to Libya

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First Gulf War on 19:34 - Jun 4 with 1617 viewsdickythorpe

The world seemed a simpler place before 1990! Maybe we were turning a blind eye. I don't know.

I feel very uneasy with what is happening lately.
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First Gulf War on 19:38 - Jun 4 with 1601 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

First Gulf War on 19:34 - Jun 4 by dickythorpe

The world seemed a simpler place before 1990! Maybe we were turning a blind eye. I don't know.

I feel very uneasy with what is happening lately.
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True words Dicky

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First Gulf War on 19:47 - Jun 4 with 1569 viewsexiledclaseboy

First Gulf War on 19:32 - Jun 4 by westwalesed

Islamist terrorism existed in the world long before 2003.


I haven't claimed otherwise.

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First Gulf War on 19:49 - Jun 4 with 1555 viewsrock1n

First Gulf War on 19:27 - Jun 4 by exiledclaseboy

No. At least part of the reason we have this today is because we actually did remove Saddam in 2003 but did nothing about the aftermath, allowing fundamentalism to fester and then flourish.


That is a factor but it's not the whole reason, this is an ideological problem within Islam that has festered for decades.

The reality is though we should support dictators in the Middle East, the place is far better being run with an iron fist. Saddam should never have been deposed.

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First Gulf War on 19:51 - Jun 4 with 1553 viewsLord_Bony

First Gulf War on 19:32 - Jun 4 by westwalesed

Islamist terrorism existed in the world long before 2003.


Yes but it was ruled by a rod of iron in iraq and libya. It was surpressed.

We then took over those countries,executed their leaders then walked away leaving a huge power vacuum to be filled by terrorists and fundamentalists. Its now coming back to bite us.

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First Gulf War on 19:27 - Jun 4 by exiledclaseboy

No. At least part of the reason we have this today is because we actually did remove Saddam in 2003 but did nothing about the aftermath, allowing fundamentalism to fester and then flourish.


There was a judgement after the first Gulf War not to overthrow Saddam, with some saying it would cause instability in the region.

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First Gulf War on 19:51 - Jun 4 with 1548 viewsexiledclaseboy

First Gulf War on 19:49 - Jun 4 by rock1n

That is a factor but it's not the whole reason, this is an ideological problem within Islam that has festered for decades.

The reality is though we should support dictators in the Middle East, the place is far better being run with an iron fist. Saddam should never have been deposed.


Again, I said it was "part of the reason".

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First Gulf War on 22:30 - Jun 4 with 1441 viewsLoyal

My word we have made a fcking shitbox out of the last 26 years.

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First Gulf War on 23:07 - Jun 4 with 1402 viewsWatchman

First Gulf War on 19:49 - Jun 4 by rock1n

That is a factor but it's not the whole reason, this is an ideological problem within Islam that has festered for decades.

The reality is though we should support dictators in the Middle East, the place is far better being run with an iron fist. Saddam should never have been deposed.


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First Gulf War on 23:15 - Jun 4 with 1383 viewsDarran

First Gulf War on 23:07 - Jun 4 by Watchman

deposed for one reason only threatened to buy and sell oil in euro and not dollar! It was a public beating for all to witness


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First Gulf War on 23:15 - Jun 4 with 1383 viewscontroversial_jack

The middle east was carved up by the British and French after ww1. These people have long memories
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First Gulf War on 23:19 - Jun 4 with 1376 viewsWatchman

First Gulf War on 23:15 - Jun 4 by Darran

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First Gulf War on 23:26 - Jun 4 with 1365 viewslonglostjack

Apparently the RTR were called back from taking Baghdad by the Yanks who had got bogged down - supply lines etc. Special relationship my arse.
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First Gulf War on 20:18 - Jun 5 with 1224 viewsJackInLondon

Give this a watch. Very enlightening!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p02gyz6b/adam-curtis-bitter-lake

And a review here:
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2015/jan/26/bitter-lake-review-adam-cur
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