| January loans 16:32 - Dec 22 with 7606 views | Badlands |
Just some speculative ramblings
It seems less and less likely we'll make any purchases but are hoping for more of Coopers old (youth) players on loan.
Striker.
If Brewster turns up does it mean Surridge has been recalled? Bournemouth have been concerned about his lack of game time and although he's contributed a few goals I'm not convinced he suits what Cooper is trying.
I can't see Brewster and Surridge both being at the club.
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Marc Guehi linked for a loan - highly though of at Chelsea.
If true does that points to MVdH or Rodon leaving or Wilmot being recalled.
No mention of a DCB but maybe Cooper's persistence with Grimes and Byers will continue through the season with Fulton and Carroll making some appearances.
Personally I think we need another winger or mediocre midfelder.  |  |
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| January loans on 16:35 - Dec 22 with 5696 views | 34dfgdf54 |
Brewster coming in means Borja is off I reckon.
To be honest I rate Wilmot highly but we have plenty of cover at centre half, if he went and we were then able to bring it that Curtis Jones fella from Liverpool I think it will be a good window. Liverpool fans I know seem to think he’s a top, top midfield player in the making. |  | | |
| January loans on 16:56 - Dec 22 with 5627 views | Oneill_77 |
Expecting:
- two junior loanees, Brewster and Jones esp would make a big impact to our CM
- Wilmot a remainer to season's end
- Asoro returnee - (but poss March)
All of which part of the longer term development plan |  | | |
| January loans on 17:23 - Dec 22 with 5562 views | Swanjaxs |
There's a young striker scoring regularly for Rockspurs this season but it's unlikely the purse strings will be loosened enough for a loan singing... |  |
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| January loans on 17:29 - Dec 22 with 5543 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| January loans on 16:56 - Dec 22 by Oneill_77 |
Expecting:
- two junior loanees, Brewster and Jones esp would make a big impact to our CM
- Wilmot a remainer to season's end
- Asoro returnee - (but poss March)
All of which part of the longer term development plan |
We can’t have another loanee unless one of our originals leave, I’m assuming you think Surridge is off? | | | |
| January loans on 18:24 - Dec 22 with 5444 views | Badlands |
| January loans on 17:29 - Dec 22 by 34dfgdf54 |
We can’t have another loanee unless one of our originals leave, I’m assuming you think Surridge is off? |
(From an item the Nottingham Express)
How many loan players can a club sign?
According to the EFL's lengthy list of regulations - section 54.4 to be precise - there are no limits on the total number of loan players a club can sign.
How many loan players can play at once?
This is where the limits come in, as a maximum of five loan players can be included on the 18-man teamsheet for any one match. Should a team bring in an emergency goalkeeper this is reduced to four players.
How many loan players can you sign from one club?
In order to stop the system being abused, there are also limits regarding the number of players you can sign on loan from one club.
Only four players from a single side can be brought in, of which no more than two are allowed to be over the age of 23. | |
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| January loans on 18:32 - Dec 22 with 5414 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| January loans on 18:24 - Dec 22 by Badlands |
(From an item the Nottingham Express)
How many loan players can a club sign?
According to the EFL's lengthy list of regulations - section 54.4 to be precise - there are no limits on the total number of loan players a club can sign.
How many loan players can play at once?
This is where the limits come in, as a maximum of five loan players can be included on the 18-man teamsheet for any one match. Should a team bring in an emergency goalkeeper this is reduced to four players.
How many loan players can you sign from one club?
In order to stop the system being abused, there are also limits regarding the number of players you can sign on loan from one club.
Only four players from a single side can be brought in, of which no more than two are allowed to be over the age of 23. |
Fair enough, must have misread the WOL article the other day. | | | |
| January loans on 18:36 - Dec 22 with 5397 views | longlostjack |
| January loans on 18:24 - Dec 22 by Badlands |
(From an item the Nottingham Express)
How many loan players can a club sign?
According to the EFL's lengthy list of regulations - section 54.4 to be precise - there are no limits on the total number of loan players a club can sign.
How many loan players can play at once?
This is where the limits come in, as a maximum of five loan players can be included on the 18-man teamsheet for any one match. Should a team bring in an emergency goalkeeper this is reduced to four players.
How many loan players can you sign from one club?
In order to stop the system being abused, there are also limits regarding the number of players you can sign on loan from one club.
Only four players from a single side can be brought in, of which no more than two are allowed to be over the age of 23. |
Appreciate the info but I’d get rid of the loan system altogether. Just benefits the teams higher up in the pecking order. Teams should also name 25 players at start of season and no transfer possibilities until following season. Time to re-balance the loaded dice. |  |
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| January loans on 18:59 - Dec 22 with 5345 views | QJumpingJack |
It will be interesting to see what names Andy Scott has come up with.
And will the American owners allow new signings/loans? | | | |
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| January loans on 20:06 - Dec 22 with 5230 views | jasper_T |
Won't mourn losing Surridge. There's a lot of competition over Brewster (if anything his stock shot up during his long injury layoffs) so it won't be cheap and assurances will be made over game time. Which hasn't always gone down well in the past.
Hope we can send a few of the u23s out if there's no sign of progress for them here. Jack Evans is ready to be playing football. Dhanda needs games as well, not sure being in limbo between squads is good for him or the club, really. | | | |
| January loans on 20:15 - Dec 22 with 5179 views | Oneill_77 |
| January loans on 20:06 - Dec 22 by jasper_T |
Won't mourn losing Surridge. There's a lot of competition over Brewster (if anything his stock shot up during his long injury layoffs) so it won't be cheap and assurances will be made over game time. Which hasn't always gone down well in the past.
Hope we can send a few of the u23s out if there's no sign of progress for them here. Jack Evans is ready to be playing football. Dhanda needs games as well, not sure being in limbo between squads is good for him or the club, really. |
Jack is a jewel, nurtured and protected.
Has many of the attributes we need in CM.
Do you think he's nearing competitive 1st team action ? | | | |
| January loans on 20:27 - Dec 22 with 5118 views | Dr_Winston |
Wouldn't rule out either Baston or Wilmot heading off/back. Baston going would certainly explain the links to Brewster.
I'm not sure that we need major surgery, but we desperately need steel and skill in the middle of the park. If we've got money in the budget for two loanees, then both of them need to be midfielders. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| January loans on 20:34 - Dec 22 with 5090 views | jasper_T |
| January loans on 20:15 - Dec 22 by Oneill_77 |
Jack is a jewel, nurtured and protected.
Has many of the attributes we need in CM.
Do you think he's nearing competitive 1st team action ? |
He should be, given how the other options have been playing this season. He's the type fans always claim we're lacking - defensive brain, gets his foot in, enough coolness and quality on the ball to keep things ticking over while the Byers-types express themselves.
Needed time after his long absence to get back up to speed but he's had that now with the u23s and Wales u21s. | | | |
| January loans on 20:36 - Dec 22 with 5060 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| January loans on 20:34 - Dec 22 by jasper_T |
He should be, given how the other options have been playing this season. He's the type fans always claim we're lacking - defensive brain, gets his foot in, enough coolness and quality on the ball to keep things ticking over while the Byers-types express themselves.
Needed time after his long absence to get back up to speed but he's had that now with the u23s and Wales u21s. |
Surprised he hasn’t had minutes.
Only seen limited amounts of him through the live streams of the u23 games but looks to have the attributes needed to improve us. Also glad to see Brandon Cooper in the squad yesterday. Good player. | | | |
| January loans on 20:38 - Dec 22 with 5043 views | Flashberryjack |
| January loans on 20:27 - Dec 22 by Dr_Winston |
Wouldn't rule out either Baston or Wilmot heading off/back. Baston going would certainly explain the links to Brewster.
I'm not sure that we need major surgery, but we desperately need steel and skill in the middle of the park. If we've got money in the budget for two loanees, then both of them need to be midfielders. |
Where might Baston be going ? |  |
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| January loans on 20:44 - Dec 22 with 5008 views | Oneill_77 |
| January loans on 20:34 - Dec 22 by jasper_T |
He should be, given how the other options have been playing this season. He's the type fans always claim we're lacking - defensive brain, gets his foot in, enough coolness and quality on the ball to keep things ticking over while the Byers-types express themselves.
Needed time after his long absence to get back up to speed but he's had that now with the u23s and Wales u21s. |
He should be and could well be, right now.
Encouragingly when he and Tom played together they forged a clever relationship, with Jack sitting deep and Tom connecting further up-field. Well balanced, neat steely and effective. | | | |
| January loans on 20:44 - Dec 22 with 5009 views | Dr_Winston |
| January loans on 20:38 - Dec 22 by Flashberryjack |
Where might Baston be going ? |
Nothing solid. Just pondering that given his recent lack of game time another loan until the end of his contract might be in the club's thinking, especially given the links to another striker of a very different style. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| January loans on 20:49 - Dec 22 with 4969 views | Swanjaxs |
| January loans on 20:38 - Dec 22 by Flashberryjack |
Where might Baston be going ? |
Absolutely nowhere is the correct answer | |
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| January loans on 21:06 - Dec 22 with 4879 views | Flashberryjack |
| January loans on 20:44 - Dec 22 by Dr_Winston |
Nothing solid. Just pondering that given his recent lack of game time another loan until the end of his contract might be in the club's thinking, especially given the links to another striker of a very different style. |
Don't know what money he's on, but other than agreeing to pay half or all his wages in a loan deal, I can't see any half tidy club wanting him.
Makes you wonder how the f*ck we spunked all that money on him....his agent must have done well out of the deal, probably others as well. | |
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| January loans on 22:01 - Dec 22 with 4651 views | Badlands |
| January loans on 21:06 - Dec 22 by Flashberryjack |
Don't know what money he's on, but other than agreeing to pay half or all his wages in a loan deal, I can't see any half tidy club wanting him.
Makes you wonder how the f*ck we spunked all that money on him....his agent must have done well out of the deal, probably others as well. |
A few weeks ago there were noises about a move to Malaga but we'd be paying a chunk of his wages.
Probably just terrace musings.
But if he isn't going to get picked off picked but not supported it would make sense to off-load and pay part of his wage if the saving covered the loan agreement of a goal scorer who plays.
The only downside is the cost of he loans which could be expensive. Sanches cost €8million PLUS his wages. Abraham reported to be around the same.
Loan doesn't mean free. | |
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| January loans on 22:12 - Dec 22 with 4584 views | monmouth |
| January loans on 20:44 - Dec 22 by Oneill_77 |
He should be and could well be, right now.
Encouragingly when he and Tom played together they forged a clever relationship, with Jack sitting deep and Tom connecting further up-field. Well balanced, neat steely and effective. |
Tell Cooper, boys mun, or get Sgorio to drop Leon a line. |  |
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| January loans on 22:55 - Dec 22 with 4401 views | Catullus |
What if Baston, Surridge AND Ayew all leave? Then MVdH? Cooper could have a worrying time.
So many rumours are flying around and I wouldn't miss Baston or Surridge too much but the other 2 will be hard to replace with the quality and experience we need. | |
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| January loans on 00:41 - Dec 23 with 4192 views | NotLoyal |
We could easily return surrudge and not miss him, same for Baston if sold. The other two VDH and Ayew would be the end of this seasons hopes of getting anywhere. |  |
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| January loans on 00:49 - Dec 23 with 4178 views | dobjack2 |
| January loans on 21:06 - Dec 22 by Flashberryjack |
Don't know what money he's on, but other than agreeing to pay half or all his wages in a loan deal, I can't see any half tidy club wanting him.
Makes you wonder how the f*ck we spunked all that money on him....his agent must have done well out of the deal, probably others as well. |
On paper his stats were excellent- 50 in his previous 108 games for deportivo and Zaragoza in the second division and Eibar in the premier. A proven goalscorer. However had we scouted him properly? British football is littered with big money striker signings that scored for fun in other leagues but couldn’t hit the proverbial with a banjo over here.
I.e. did a football person reckon he could handle the physical element of British football from his play? Could he play with his back to goal and hold the ball up or did he need to be facing the opposition goal i.e. onto through balls or coming onto crosses or cut backs? Was he used as a lone striker or one of a front 2? Did he fit into the pattern of play our manager wanted to play ? Did our manager have any input into the signing? What was he like as a person? Was he outgoing or likely not to mix? What about family? So many things.
I don’t know the answers but by the time we signed him our recruitment arm was pathetic. Highlights clips, a FIFa rating and panic were probably the major factors in the decision. With panic leading to the size of the transfer fee and wages. | | | |
| January loans on 04:04 - Dec 23 with 4016 views | TimTtam |
No-one will buy Borja. If he leaves it will be on loan, while we pay a huge chunk of his wages (pointless).
Surridge will be off. Bournemouth are struggling and could be in a relegation battle, so they need reinforcements.
Watford need to decide if they think they are a chance to escape relegation. After watching a few of their recent games, I think they can survive with a bit of luck. If they think they're relegation certainties, they should keep Wilmot with us in preparation for their Championship campaign.
There are articles everywhere saying we are in the box seat for Brewster. Liverpool want regular game time, and PL clubs + Leeds can't offer that. The links Cooper has with him make it ominous.
Birch and Cooper said at the fans forum that Cullen is a good chance to be sent out on loan. He's a good prospect, and I hope he gets game time at a L2 team. Jack Evans should be sent out on loan as well if he's not going to get any game time in the first team. We should prepare for next season, where many of our U23s players will be in contention for the first team. [Post edited 23 Dec 2019 4:06]
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| January loans on 04:12 - Dec 23 with 4013 views | angryjack |
| January loans on 00:41 - Dec 23 by NotLoyal |
We could easily return surrudge and not miss him, same for Baston if sold. The other two VDH and Ayew would be the end of this seasons hopes of getting anywhere. |
Disagree think sturridge is quality makes lovely intelligent runs just got mediocre playing behind him not feeding him the ball his movement is quality | | | |
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