| ifollow info from Accrington 12:02 - Oct 23 with 2739 views | 442Dale |
483 Dale fans bought the game at their place. |  |
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| ifollow info from Accrington on 12:33 - Oct 23 with 2680 views | 49thseason |
And Dale didn't receive a penny because the threshold was set at 750 sales . It would be interesting to know what the threshold will be for the rest of the the L1 clubs , as it stands someone decided that ours was 750 , the highest so far. If this is some sort of negotiation, we lost out. |  | | |
| ifollow info from Accrington on 12:44 - Oct 23 with 2658 views | boromat |
| ifollow info from Accrington on 12:33 - Oct 23 by 49thseason |
And Dale didn't receive a penny because the threshold was set at 750 sales . It would be interesting to know what the threshold will be for the rest of the the L1 clubs , as it stands someone decided that ours was 750 , the highest so far. If this is some sort of negotiation, we lost out. |
Seems fair 750 to Accrington would be usual I think.
Where we should win is away days far away where we'd only take 200 and we might get 500 watching. We should take the 300 difference if negotiated correctly. |  |
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| ifollow info from Accrington on 12:50 - Oct 23 with 2641 views | 100notout |
| ifollow info from Accrington on 12:33 - Oct 23 by 49thseason |
And Dale didn't receive a penny because the threshold was set at 750 sales . It would be interesting to know what the threshold will be for the rest of the the L1 clubs , as it stands someone decided that ours was 750 , the highest so far. If this is some sort of negotiation, we lost out. |
I believe the threshold is based on the average number of fans we take to an away game. for Accy 750 sounds about right although I'm sure tvos has the numbers.
Don't think we've lost out on ifollow although you could argue we could have earned 5% of ticket sales. | |
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| ifollow info from Accrington on 12:58 - Oct 23 with 2617 views | TVOS1907 |
| ifollow info from Accrington on 12:50 - Oct 23 by 100notout |
I believe the threshold is based on the average number of fans we take to an away game. for Accy 750 sounds about right although I'm sure tvos has the numbers.
Don't think we've lost out on ifollow although you could argue we could have earned 5% of ticket sales. |
I have, although not with me at the moment. They were sent to the club in pre-season to help with the negotiating process. |  |
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| ifollow info from Accrington on 13:08 - Oct 23 with 2589 views | judd |
"On Saturday, we made about £15,000 from iFollow (the Football League’s streaming service) but we would have normally taken over £100,000 for a game against Portsmouth.” |  |
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| ifollow info from Accrington on 16:04 - Oct 23 with 2379 views | DaleiLama |
| ifollow info from Accrington on 12:58 - Oct 23 by TVOS1907 |
I have, although not with me at the moment. They were sent to the club in pre-season to help with the negotiating process. |
If you have all the away attendances, would be grateful if you could post. I won't watch all away games but will target the ones with lowest attendances as club will gain most from those. Tvm. |  |
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| ifollow info from Accrington on 16:30 - Oct 23 with 2343 views | TVOS1907 |
| ifollow info from Accrington on 16:04 - Oct 23 by DaleiLama |
If you have all the away attendances, would be grateful if you could post. I won't watch all away games but will target the ones with lowest attendances as club will gain most from those. Tvm. |
They aren't in a practical enough format for posting.
The smallest away attendances will be for the furthest trips, though, so the likes of Plymouth, Gillingham, Bristol Rovers, etc.
EDIT: I can send you the spreadsheet by email though. [Post edited 23 Oct 2020 21:56]
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| ifollow info from Accrington on 16:33 - Oct 23 with 2333 views | judd |
Would it be a good move for the club to publish the agreed figure at which revenue for us kicks in?
Mind you, we must be doing something right to make about £15,000 in 1 game when Accy have only made £18,540 over 7 games. | |
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| ifollow info from Accrington on 16:44 - Oct 23 with 2308 views | 442Dale |
| ifollow info from Accrington on 16:33 - Oct 23 by judd |
Would it be a good move for the club to publish the agreed figure at which revenue for us kicks in?
Mind you, we must be doing something right to make about £15,000 in 1 game when Accy have only made £18,540 over 7 games. |
With them getting nearly £6.5k from 1200 Peterborough fans after agreeing about half of much in subs, there’s a possibility that quite a lot more Pompey fans would subscribe for their first away game. Could be way, way off the mark of course, but wouldn’t be surprised to see 3-4 thousand Pompey fans watching at home.
Though somebody with more patience and better at maths would have to work out what that would regularly bring in against teams they face! [Post edited 23 Oct 2020 16:47]
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| ifollow info from Accrington on 16:50 - Oct 23 with 2284 views | judd |
| ifollow info from Accrington on 16:44 - Oct 23 by 442Dale |
With them getting nearly £6.5k from 1200 Peterborough fans after agreeing about half of much in subs, there’s a possibility that quite a lot more Pompey fans would subscribe for their first away game. Could be way, way off the mark of course, but wouldn’t be surprised to see 3-4 thousand Pompey fans watching at home.
Though somebody with more patience and better at maths would have to work out what that would regularly bring in against teams they face! [Post edited 23 Oct 2020 16:47]
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Indeed, it may be that Portsmouth have been very generous. Their average away following at Dale in the 3 seasons since they returned to League 1 is 1,001. | |
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| ifollow info from Accrington on 20:55 - Oct 23 with 2131 views | Dalenet |
The other interesting thing here is the Home Fans take up of the FREE iFollow ticket. Looks like just over 300 of their fans use the free pass for each home game - yet they sold about 1000 season tickets I seem to recall. I wonder how many of our 1400 STs are electing to watch on iFollow | | | |
| ifollow info from Accrington on 21:43 - Oct 23 with 2087 views | Ancoats_Blue |
| ifollow info from Accrington on 16:04 - Oct 23 by DaleiLama |
If you have all the away attendances, would be grateful if you could post. I won't watch all away games but will target the ones with lowest attendances as club will gain most from those. Tvm. |
I second that. |  | | |
| ifollow info from Accrington on 21:44 - Oct 23 with 2085 views | Ancoats_Blue |
| ifollow info from Accrington on 20:55 - Oct 23 by Dalenet |
The other interesting thing here is the Home Fans take up of the FREE iFollow ticket. Looks like just over 300 of their fans use the free pass for each home game - yet they sold about 1000 season tickets I seem to recall. I wonder how many of our 1400 STs are electing to watch on iFollow |
The numbers will be lower than ST sales anyway as I’d expect a lot of ST holders at Dale and Accy live in the same household. That or they’re close friends and just watch together on ifollow (don’t tell the COVID Stasi). | | | |
| ifollow info from Accrington on 07:14 - Oct 24 with 1948 views | Newbury_Dale |
Those Accrington viewing figures are very low. | | | |
| ifollow info from Accrington on 10:22 - Oct 24 with 1834 views | DaleiLama |
| ifollow info from Accrington on 16:33 - Oct 23 by judd |
Would it be a good move for the club to publish the agreed figure at which revenue for us kicks in?
Mind you, we must be doing something right to make about £15,000 in 1 game when Accy have only made £18,540 over 7 games. |
I think that's an excellent idea Judd.
This is what we do at present.
Why not add to that each time: we have agreed with "x club" that any match passes sold over y-value means Dale earns extra much needed revenue to offset the 5% that we would have ordinarily earned by fans purchasing tickets through the club for away fixtures.
It's a win-win and makes sound commercial sense in these financially challenging times 👠| |
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| ifollow info from Accrington on 11:40 - Oct 24 with 1759 views | 100notout |
| ifollow info from Accrington on 16:33 - Oct 23 by judd |
Would it be a good move for the club to publish the agreed figure at which revenue for us kicks in?
Mind you, we must be doing something right to make about £15,000 in 1 game when Accy have only made £18,540 over 7 games. |
I'm sure I read somewhere that clubs are not allowed to publish what the agreed figures. | |
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| ifollow info from Accrington on 12:17 - Oct 24 with 1719 views | 442Dale |
| ifollow info from Accrington on 11:40 - Oct 24 by 100notout |
I'm sure I read somewhere that clubs are not allowed to publish what the agreed figures. |
Yet Accrington have.
Also some numbers here on sales:
https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/18819282.ifollow-purchase-figures-l
Do think it’ll really help if the club can be transparent on these figures in an attempt to increase sales as mentioned in the thread. There’s no real reason not to. | |
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