| 100 deaths from Covid in the last 24 hours 18:51 - Aug 13 with 3194 views | builthjack |
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| 100 deaths from Covid in the last 24 hours on 22:14 - Aug 15 with 643 views | controversial_jack |
| 100 deaths from Covid in the last 24 hours on 20:35 - Aug 15 by Scotia |
It was never sold to us as stopping transmission and people getting ill.
No vaccine is 100% effective. It was sold to us as reducing both, it has done significantly, despite the Delta variant. |
Yes it was! |  | | |
| 100 deaths from Covid in the last 24 hours on 22:17 - Aug 15 with 631 views | Scotia |
| 100 deaths from Covid in the last 24 hours on 22:14 - Aug 15 by controversial_jack |
Yes it was! |
Show us then.
No vaccine, ever, is 100% effective. Don't forget there is a thread on here calling the Oxford vaccine a "crock of shit" because it only prevented 70% of infections. | | | |
| 100 deaths from Covid in the last 24 hours on 22:22 - Aug 15 with 627 views | controversial_jack |
| 100 deaths from Covid in the last 24 hours on 22:17 - Aug 15 by Scotia |
Show us then.
No vaccine, ever, is 100% effective. Don't forget there is a thread on here calling the Oxford vaccine a "crock of shit" because it only prevented 70% of infections. |
It was said that it would stop the transmission of the virus and allow us to return to normality. We have returned to normality for now, but it hasn't prevented transmission | | | |
| 100 deaths from Covid in the last 24 hours on 22:26 - Aug 15 with 626 views | Scotia |
| 100 deaths from Covid in the last 24 hours on 22:22 - Aug 15 by controversial_jack |
It was said that it would stop the transmission of the virus and allow us to return to normality. We have returned to normality for now, but it hasn't prevented transmission |
No it wasn't.
It was said it would reduce transmission. It does. | | | |
| 100 deaths from Covid in the last 24 hours on 22:49 - Aug 15 with 611 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 100 deaths from Covid in the last 24 hours on 22:02 - Aug 15 by Scotia |
A couple of questions.
1, How many tests were performed each day during the first wave, at the point you refer to regarding nursing home deaths?
At present it's around 850000, it has been up to 1.25 million.
2, Have you ever seen a flat wave?
I also notice you've ignored everything else I've said. My version of truth and reality seems to be difficult for you to address. |
It is because it is bull sh!t and it is the same as your response to my information, you do not address any of it.
What like my 1 month of incubation equals 3 months of no wave, nope not even close.
You are correct now though that we are testing more than last year.
But when the cases are 15 times higher than the current non wave period what do you call it?
There is no reason why there can't be a flat wave, because as we know it is being fueled by Vaccinated people. | | | |
| 100 deaths from Covid in the last 24 hours on 23:05 - Aug 15 with 607 views | Scotia |
| 100 deaths from Covid in the last 24 hours on 22:49 - Aug 15 by A_Fans_Dad |
It is because it is bull sh!t and it is the same as your response to my information, you do not address any of it.
What like my 1 month of incubation equals 3 months of no wave, nope not even close.
You are correct now though that we are testing more than last year.
But when the cases are 15 times higher than the current non wave period what do you call it?
There is no reason why there can't be a flat wave, because as we know it is being fueled by Vaccinated people. |
Tut tut AFD. Not answering questions again?
The list of questions you can't answer is getting rather long.
One month of incubation, in addition to the month since restrictions ended gives us two months. Before you consider that we were at a similar level of restrictions to summer 2020 for two months prior to the July "freedom day" and we now have a considerably more infectious variant. Your three months in 2020 is four months in 2021, in addition to the Delta variant and considerably more freedom. Completely incomparable
We were testing no more than 100,000 people per day in April 2020. Our capacity to test now is way more than 15 times that. We are also routinely testing people with no symptoms, were we doing that in spring 2020?
Do you know what a wave is? | | | |
| 100 deaths from Covid in the last 24 hours on 23:16 - Aug 15 with 601 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 100 deaths from Covid in the last 24 hours on 23:05 - Aug 15 by Scotia |
Tut tut AFD. Not answering questions again?
The list of questions you can't answer is getting rather long.
One month of incubation, in addition to the month since restrictions ended gives us two months. Before you consider that we were at a similar level of restrictions to summer 2020 for two months prior to the July "freedom day" and we now have a considerably more infectious variant. Your three months in 2020 is four months in 2021, in addition to the Delta variant and considerably more freedom. Completely incomparable
We were testing no more than 100,000 people per day in April 2020. Our capacity to test now is way more than 15 times that. We are also routinely testing people with no symptoms, were we doing that in spring 2020?
Do you know what a wave is? |
Do you know that we are getting 30,000 cases a day right now on this day last year it was 1500.
Yes a wave is a change in amplitude from a base period that declines back to the base. However a Tsunami is also a wave and is very Long on the down slope.
The base period is 2000/day, we are at 30,000/day. if that isn't a wave I don't know what is.
Perhaps you would like to find a description, because there isn't an official one according to this.
https://theconversation.com/what-makes-a-wave-of-disease-an-epidemiologist-expla
As to you blather about a month of incubation, that does not compare to last year, because we are already in a wave and last year we weren't.
ps your comment "Our capacity to test now is way more than 15 times that." is completely irrelevant. It is the wave that is 15 times higher than the trough that is of significance.
Thankyou for the testing numbers in your previous post, you are of course correct that you get more positives with more tests.
So we are getting 30,000 from 850000, which is 3 in 85. So if we were still testing at 1250000 we would be geting 44,000/day and not 30,000/day.
As to the affect of the weekend's football matches involving getting on for a million fans if they prove to be spreading events (hopefully they won't as they are basically outdoors) then in 15 to 20 days we will see the cases.
Depending on what the current wave has been doing over that period will depend on what we see.
If the wave continues as is then we will either see it maintained or increased, if it decreases over that period we will see a re-surgence. [Post edited 16 Aug 2021 12:00]
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| 100 deaths from Covid in the last 24 hours on 15:09 - Aug 17 with 482 views | controversial_jack |
| 100 deaths from Covid in the last 24 hours on 22:26 - Aug 15 by Scotia |
No it wasn't.
It was said it would reduce transmission. It does. |
No it doesn't Vaccinated ppl are getting it | | | |
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| 100 deaths from Covid in the last 24 hours on 15:41 - Aug 17 with 470 views | Scotia |
| 100 deaths from Covid in the last 24 hours on 15:09 - Aug 17 by controversial_jack |
No it doesn't Vaccinated ppl are getting it |
Yes it does. it reduces getting the virus at all by about 50%, sympotomatic covid by more.
If you don't get it at all you can't pass it on, you are less contagious if you don't have symptoms. | | | |
| 100 deaths from Covid in the last 24 hours on 16:51 - Aug 17 with 450 views | Scotia |
| 100 deaths from Covid in the last 24 hours on 23:16 - Aug 15 by A_Fans_Dad |
Do you know that we are getting 30,000 cases a day right now on this day last year it was 1500.
Yes a wave is a change in amplitude from a base period that declines back to the base. However a Tsunami is also a wave and is very Long on the down slope.
The base period is 2000/day, we are at 30,000/day. if that isn't a wave I don't know what is.
Perhaps you would like to find a description, because there isn't an official one according to this.
https://theconversation.com/what-makes-a-wave-of-disease-an-epidemiologist-expla
As to you blather about a month of incubation, that does not compare to last year, because we are already in a wave and last year we weren't.
ps your comment "Our capacity to test now is way more than 15 times that." is completely irrelevant. It is the wave that is 15 times higher than the trough that is of significance.
Thankyou for the testing numbers in your previous post, you are of course correct that you get more positives with more tests.
So we are getting 30,000 from 850000, which is 3 in 85. So if we were still testing at 1250000 we would be geting 44,000/day and not 30,000/day.
As to the affect of the weekend's football matches involving getting on for a million fans if they prove to be spreading events (hopefully they won't as they are basically outdoors) then in 15 to 20 days we will see the cases.
Depending on what the current wave has been doing over that period will depend on what we see.
If the wave continues as is then we will either see it maintained or increased, if it decreases over that period we will see a re-surgence. [Post edited 16 Aug 2021 12:00]
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But we don't know what the "base" is with covid as we move back to normaility. It certainly isn't 1500 cases a day. That is your definitiaon of a wave and clearly inappropriate.
I'd describe it as a rapid increase in cases, followed by a more gradual decline, followed by a stabilisation - that stable period is where we are now thanks to the vaccines. A few weeks ago cases were doubling every 10 days or so, now they are largely stable.
You say we weren't in a wave last year but by your definition we were as just six months earlier we were recording zero cases.
The virus is now endemic, we are never likely to see 1500 cases again without a lockdown.
The entire scenario around testing is relevant - we are testing anybody who wants to be tested now. Everyone is encouraged to take a test twice a week. Last year it was largely only people with symptoms who were tested.
It is a completely incomparable time period. | | | |
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