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Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread 23:01 - Dec 9 with 6532 viewsModeratorC

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Swansea City: Lawrence Vigouroux; Ethan Galbraith, Ben Cabango (captain), Cameron Burgess, Josh Tymon; Marko Stamenic, Goncalo Franco, Liam Cullen; Ronald, Jisung Eom, Žan Vipotnik.

Substitutes: Andy Fisher, Josh Key, Jay Fulton, Melker Widell, Malick Yalcouye, Ishe Samuels-Smith, Kaelan Casey, Zeidane Inoussa, Adam Idah

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Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 09:13 - Dec 14 with 524 viewsWhiterockin

Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 08:59 - Dec 14 by herbie

Have to laugh at one person's continued criticism of Eom. he has been in the top 3 players in all the last 3 games and has been a threat on our left and linking well with Tymon.


That's what happens when someone really doesn't have a clue about football.
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Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 09:28 - Dec 14 with 477 viewsDr_Winston

Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 09:13 - Dec 14 by Whiterockin

That's what happens when someone really doesn't have a clue about football.


He just needs someone to hate to give his life meaning.

Every season it's the same. He'll pick a couple of players and slag them off endlessly. He's never even seen most of them in the flesh, and it rarely matters how they actually play. Once this season he even launched into a diatribe about Key not stopping a cross when it wasn't even his side of the pitch.

Just one strange dude.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 09:53 - Dec 14 with 438 viewsWhiterockin

Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 09:28 - Dec 14 by Dr_Winston

He just needs someone to hate to give his life meaning.

Every season it's the same. He'll pick a couple of players and slag them off endlessly. He's never even seen most of them in the flesh, and it rarely matters how they actually play. Once this season he even launched into a diatribe about Key not stopping a cross when it wasn't even his side of the pitch.

Just one strange dude.


Sometimes players do not play well and it is fair to criticise, although we do not always know the behind the scenes facts. There are players who I do not think are playing well and comment that perhaps they should be rested or not bought in the first case of some recent signings. But I am man enough to accept when they play better as is the case now with Vipotnik, first opinions are not always right. What I cannot accept is the hate and animosity show to our players just because they are not playing well, if they don't care or put in any effort fair enough, but clearly that is not the case.
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Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 10:01 - Dec 14 with 419 viewsFireboy2

Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 08:59 - Dec 14 by herbie

Have to laugh at one person's continued criticism of Eom. he has been in the top 3 players in all the last 3 games and has been a threat on our left and linking well with Tymon.


Those two especially caused stoke problems all the first half.

Eom is getting better every game, incan see him scoring a worldie on Friday 🙏
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Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 10:15 - Dec 14 with 403 viewsonehunglow

It’s a very fine line between love and hate
This site and Phil’s is full of” hate”
What about those poor lost souls then bois

Play fair


Off today then Ed or just finished a night shift

You’ve got lovely dorms on stations have you not

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Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 10:46 - Dec 14 with 362 viewsYrAlarch

Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 09:53 - Dec 14 by Whiterockin

Sometimes players do not play well and it is fair to criticise, although we do not always know the behind the scenes facts. There are players who I do not think are playing well and comment that perhaps they should be rested or not bought in the first case of some recent signings. But I am man enough to accept when they play better as is the case now with Vipotnik, first opinions are not always right. What I cannot accept is the hate and animosity show to our players just because they are not playing well, if they don't care or put in any effort fair enough, but clearly that is not the case.


I totally agree with your comment regarding 'behind the scenes facts' for why someone is not playing well or not putting in the required effort.
I recall watching Ray kennedy playing for the Swans back in 1982 and being critical of his apparent lack of effort. Only to subsequently learn that he was in the early stages of Parkinson's Disease. Big lesson learnt there.
I also don't understand the use of the word 'hate' in relation to a player or manager, particularly when someone is not known personally to the user. Those who plead for tolerance should themselves exercise tolerance.
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Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 11:10 - Dec 14 with 332 viewsonehunglow

Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 10:46 - Dec 14 by YrAlarch

I totally agree with your comment regarding 'behind the scenes facts' for why someone is not playing well or not putting in the required effort.
I recall watching Ray kennedy playing for the Swans back in 1982 and being critical of his apparent lack of effort. Only to subsequently learn that he was in the early stages of Parkinson's Disease. Big lesson learnt there.
I also don't understand the use of the word 'hate' in relation to a player or manager, particularly when someone is not known personally to the user. Those who plead for tolerance should themselves exercise tolerance.


Hate has a wide context
It’s like someone saying , “ I ll kill you” ey
You can certainly hate the way a player performs , the unrelenting sub standard performances that cost games
“ “ I hate the way that ….” Fill in the gaps

Ray Kennedy played at a time when Parkinson’s was less evident to ordinary folks and his demise was cruel
It is absolutely different with Key apart from
The fact that as a footballer he was on a different planet

If he has “ issues” he shouldn’t play , ever as it’s not fair on him or the club
He is now clearly not being defended but pitied with folk begging for any criticism to be shelved
Sentiment plays no part in sport or shouldn’t do
This is our bloody club and we’re on shite right now and need points desperately

I suggest that as a club , we are soft with too many sentimental
We actually saw countless posts of how nice” Luke Williams ,Sheehan and even Martin were

Matos seems “ nice” but he seems to have something about him
We hope he proves an inspired appointment

The years are flying by and we are born to die
This could be our last
We need to truly make the most of the time we have left
We can’t make any more time

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Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 11:12 - Dec 14 with 336 viewswwcigne

Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 10:01 - Dec 14 by Fireboy2

Those two especially caused stoke problems all the first half.

Eom is getting better every game, incan see him scoring a worldie on Friday 🙏


I think we caused Stoke plenty of problems yesterday , more than they were expecting us to
The last 3 games have shown a clear change in play due to Vitor’s influence,hopefully this will get even better with his coaching staff coming in
Eom has played well lately,one of our best performers,he’s not the only one who gets pushed off the ball and he’s made a couple of good tackles too
We need to work on the physical side but it’s great to see us getting forward quicker and creating chances under Vitor after what we had before
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Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 11:17 - Dec 14 with 316 viewsonehunglow

Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 11:12 - Dec 14 by wwcigne

I think we caused Stoke plenty of problems yesterday , more than they were expecting us to
The last 3 games have shown a clear change in play due to Vitor’s influence,hopefully this will get even better with his coaching staff coming in
Eom has played well lately,one of our best performers,he’s not the only one who gets pushed off the ball and he’s made a couple of good tackles too
We need to work on the physical side but it’s great to see us getting forward quicker and creating chances under Vitor after what we had before


True but don’t agree with eom who is super lightweight but yeah , he’s not alone
This is a very physical league
Stoke will not be promoted btw and both their goals were avoidable although the first could win any game

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