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Lower Loft Renewals... 14:17 - May 22 with 31945 viewsSouthend_Rss

My mate sits in NL and has had an email saying that he has to move unless he has a child with him next year. It's to do with making it a new family stand.. Anyone else sit in the lower loft and had an email from the club?? That's gonna cause problems trying to relocate surely..
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Lower Loft Renewals... on 17:52 - May 23 with 2223 viewsDanVanDyke

Lower Loft Renewals... on 16:46 - May 23 by Northernr

It has taken a turn for the better hasn't it


The reply about driving at 38mph in a 30mph zone, had water coming out of my nose! What a riposte!
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Lower Loft Renewals... on 17:53 - May 23 with 2221 viewsted_hendrix

I re-newed this morning in the lower loft same seat, I just rang up and done It and It was actually £20.00 cheaper than last Year.
When I questioned the bloke on the phone about the family shit he said no problem mate It's all gone through.

Got my e-mail confirmation from the club too.

I got a PM last night from a good fan who I sit next to who said he would help out with the 'Family thing' as he takes his kid along thanfully I didn't need It.


My Father had a profound influence on me, he was a lunatic.

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Lower Loft Renewals... on 17:54 - May 23 with 2214 viewswestberksr

Lower Loft Renewals... on 17:53 - May 23 by ted_hendrix

I re-newed this morning in the lower loft same seat, I just rang up and done It and It was actually £20.00 cheaper than last Year.
When I questioned the bloke on the phone about the family shit he said no problem mate It's all gone through.

Got my e-mail confirmation from the club too.

I got a PM last night from a good fan who I sit next to who said he would help out with the 'Family thing' as he takes his kid along thanfully I didn't need It.



but you missed the bit that you have to drop Charlie off at the creche by 2pm on matchday.
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Lower Loft Renewals... on 18:08 - May 23 with 2200 viewsW7Ranger

Lower Loft Renewals... on 22:17 - May 22 by Northernr

As ever on such occasions, there's a degree of "I'm alright Jack" about some of the replies here. If it doesn't affect you then great, but I don't see why you'd come on here digging out people it does. If they kicked me out of my seat I'd be mortified - the LFW lot I sit with at away games all sit together in Ellerslie Road but I won't move because I sat in my seat with Stuart for years and it means something to still sit there. There will be loads of stories like that.

On the practical side of it I don't see how we can afford to make such a big section of the ground available only to those with under 8s - not just kids, under 8s. It's going to result in lots of people getting season tickets for kids with no intention of them ever turning up. It's also going to result in many empty seats behind the goal for games that are apparently sold out. And what about midweek games that finish at 10pm?

It's a worthy idea but they've gone overboard. It should be under 16s and it should only be half the tier IMO.
[Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]


Genuine question here.

Where is it stated that the Family Stand is only for Children under 8 years old? I've just had a look at the season tickets prices for the Family Stand and there's a whole range of prices for adults with "children" up to the age of 21.

Unless I'm reading it wrong or missing something?


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Lower Loft Renewals... on 18:13 - May 23 with 2193 viewsJonDoeman

Lower Loft Renewals... on 17:53 - May 23 by ted_hendrix

I re-newed this morning in the lower loft same seat, I just rang up and done It and It was actually £20.00 cheaper than last Year.
When I questioned the bloke on the phone about the family shit he said no problem mate It's all gone through.

Got my e-mail confirmation from the club too.

I got a PM last night from a good fan who I sit next to who said he would help out with the 'Family thing' as he takes his kid along thanfully I didn't need It.



So after 8 pages, there isn't a problem after all? sweet

It Is What It Is !!

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Lower Loft Renewals... on 19:08 - May 23 with 2159 viewscheeseydane

Lower Loft Renewals... on 18:13 - May 23 by JonDoeman

So after 8 pages, there isn't a problem after all? sweet


Still, something to gossip about for a day or two.

Technology advances, unfortunately humans do not.

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Lower Loft Renewals... on 19:12 - May 23 with 2151 viewsted_hendrix

Lower Loft Renewals... on 18:13 - May 23 by JonDoeman

So after 8 pages, there isn't a problem after all? sweet


Well there didn't seem to be this morning and Like I said i've got my e-mail confirmation from the club so hey-ho

My Father had a profound influence on me, he was a lunatic.

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Lower Loft Renewals... on 19:34 - May 23 with 2126 viewssmegma

Lower Loft Renewals... on 17:10 - May 23 by Gloucs_R

As much as we all wind each other up....I love this board!


You'd struggle to wind a clock up.
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Lower Loft Renewals... on 20:12 - May 23 with 2108 viewsGloucs_R

Lower Loft Renewals... on 19:34 - May 23 by smegma

You'd struggle to wind a clock up.


Love you sweet cheeks.


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Lower Loft Renewals... on 09:30 - May 24 with 2023 viewsBasingstokeR

So no-one has actually had to move in the end!

Silly move by the club to send out the email winding people up only to be seen doing the right thing then letting people renew anyway! Not surprised - they've been selling tickets in the family stand to non-families and away fans against the clubs policy for a few years now.
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Lower Loft Renewals... on 10:20 - May 24 with 1991 viewsdaveB

Lower Loft Renewals... on 09:30 - May 24 by BasingstokeR

So no-one has actually had to move in the end!

Silly move by the club to send out the email winding people up only to be seen doing the right thing then letting people renew anyway! Not surprised - they've been selling tickets in the family stand to non-families and away fans against the clubs policy for a few years now.


my mates had to move, changed his seat to the Upper Loft. Not sure why they would send the email out and state a new policy then not go through with it.
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Lower Loft Renewals... on 10:32 - May 24 with 1972 viewsWatford_Ranger

Out of interest, does anyone know what percentage roughly of the silver areas are season tickets? I've not been based in the south for a while but will be this season so would like to get one, probably somewhere that I can stand and make a bit of noise without being gawked at for cheering the team or letting out the occasional expletive. R block would be logical but I fear the few seats there not obscured by that pillar will be diehards who renew.
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Lower Loft Renewals... on 11:19 - May 24 with 1942 viewsBasingstokeR

Lower Loft Renewals... on 10:20 - May 24 by daveB

my mates had to move, changed his seat to the Upper Loft. Not sure why they would send the email out and state a new policy then not go through with it.


Probably the same reason they sell tickets for however many years to adults without accompanying juniors since the stand was first made a Family Stand - depends who you get on the phone I suppose!

I missed the Watford game (and almost the Cardiff game) due to incompetence of the Box Office removing loyalty points from my account.
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Lower Loft Renewals... on 11:21 - May 24 with 1935 viewsBlackCrowe

Page 8 is not so LOL

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Lower Loft Renewals... on 16:49 - May 24 with 1868 viewslowerloftgirl

Lower Loft Renewals... on 11:21 - May 24 by BlackCrowe

Page 8 is not so LOL


An open response to Tony Fernandes, Amit Bhatia, and Phil Beard,
>
> This is simply wrong ! No discussion, no warning, nothing, just like a
> polictical party sneaking out the bad stuff under the cover of the good
> news and hoping no one would notice. Like a dictatorship, even briatore
> understood keeping the lower loft a mixed stand. You can not, and have no
> right to just throw loyal supporters out of their seats like this,
> Supporters like myself and many others around me who have stood and sat in
> the same place for decades, through good and very many bad times. Tell me
> how many families with under 8's will turn up at midweek games, winter
> nights, and against foes like chelsea, west ham etc, and how many were
> there against vauxhall motors ????? I'll tell you, very very few. The loft
> has always been the vocal lung of the stadium, the home end. Your stupid
> dicision announced today on twitter will kill the stadiums voice. The
> lower loft is obviously the wrong place for a family stand, anyone would
> have told you that, if you had bothered to ask. And where do you plan to
> put all these displaced friends and families with no under 8's in their
> groups ? Surely you must realise that the great displaced will want to sit
> together in their previous groups, how will you accommodate this ? And
> will those already in the relocated areas want the groups of the great
> unwashed moved there ? Everyone I have spoken to this evening are
> disgusted, and in shock at this very ill thought out idea. I'm sure there
> will be 100's / 1000's complaining to you in the next few days as this
> news creeps out. I strongly ask you to stop and reverse this action before
> it is to late, you are simply hurting to many people, and creating a
> nightmare.
>
> I await your urgent response
>
> Yours
>
> QPR Loyal supporter since 1973


We have passed on your email.
>
> Unfortunately they still maintain that any adult without a junior in the
> Lower Loft will have to find alternative seats.
>
> Please let us know the best number to reach you on to discuss the best
> available seats.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Box Office
> QPR Holdings Limited


It has been brought to my attention that a number of people have renewed
today with no problem, in their original seats, no under 8's, and qpr
comfirmation emails recieved. WHAT IS GOING ON ?
I will be coming to the box office very soon to discuss matters face to
face, in the meantime please start thinking about where you are going to
move my group of 10 people, because we have no intention of being
seperated ! What an utter mess all this is, disgracful !

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Lower Loft Renewals... on 16:58 - May 24 with 1857 viewsdaveB

Well of the group I go to games with my Dad and three mates have all been told to move so I'm left with just me and my ticket for my son who is 3 and only goes once or twice a season. I now have to either sit on my own next season or pay gold prices to move as I won't get the free upgrade due to having a kid. If I move I'll get rid of the kids ticket as you can't get them in gold.

All in all a quite incredible move by the club.
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Lower Loft Renewals... on 17:04 - May 24 with 1849 viewsBasingstokeR

Lower Loft Renewals... on 16:58 - May 24 by daveB

Well of the group I go to games with my Dad and three mates have all been told to move so I'm left with just me and my ticket for my son who is 3 and only goes once or twice a season. I now have to either sit on my own next season or pay gold prices to move as I won't get the free upgrade due to having a kid. If I move I'll get rid of the kids ticket as you can't get them in gold.

All in all a quite incredible move by the club.


I just find it slighty strange this has only really been announced via the renewal emails and some Tweets, and that there hasn't been some sort of official announcement about this. There must have been quite a few complaints back via the Box Office. Everything else the club have done recently has been done really professionally with lots of forethought and clear communication.
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Lower Loft Renewals... on 17:12 - May 24 with 1842 viewsBlackCrowe

Lower Loft Renewals... on 16:49 - May 24 by lowerloftgirl

An open response to Tony Fernandes, Amit Bhatia, and Phil Beard,
>
> This is simply wrong ! No discussion, no warning, nothing, just like a
> polictical party sneaking out the bad stuff under the cover of the good
> news and hoping no one would notice. Like a dictatorship, even briatore
> understood keeping the lower loft a mixed stand. You can not, and have no
> right to just throw loyal supporters out of their seats like this,
> Supporters like myself and many others around me who have stood and sat in
> the same place for decades, through good and very many bad times. Tell me
> how many families with under 8's will turn up at midweek games, winter
> nights, and against foes like chelsea, west ham etc, and how many were
> there against vauxhall motors ????? I'll tell you, very very few. The loft
> has always been the vocal lung of the stadium, the home end. Your stupid
> dicision announced today on twitter will kill the stadiums voice. The
> lower loft is obviously the wrong place for a family stand, anyone would
> have told you that, if you had bothered to ask. And where do you plan to
> put all these displaced friends and families with no under 8's in their
> groups ? Surely you must realise that the great displaced will want to sit
> together in their previous groups, how will you accommodate this ? And
> will those already in the relocated areas want the groups of the great
> unwashed moved there ? Everyone I have spoken to this evening are
> disgusted, and in shock at this very ill thought out idea. I'm sure there
> will be 100's / 1000's complaining to you in the next few days as this
> news creeps out. I strongly ask you to stop and reverse this action before
> it is to late, you are simply hurting to many people, and creating a
> nightmare.
>
> I await your urgent response
>
> Yours
>
> QPR Loyal supporter since 1973


We have passed on your email.
>
> Unfortunately they still maintain that any adult without a junior in the
> Lower Loft will have to find alternative seats.
>
> Please let us know the best number to reach you on to discuss the best
> available seats.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Box Office
> QPR Holdings Limited


It has been brought to my attention that a number of people have renewed
today with no problem, in their original seats, no under 8's, and qpr
comfirmation emails recieved. WHAT IS GOING ON ?
I will be coming to the box office very soon to discuss matters face to
face, in the meantime please start thinking about where you are going to
move my group of 10 people, because we have no intention of being
seperated ! What an utter mess all this is, disgracful !



Overly aggressive. And you spelt decision wrong.

Hope this helps.

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Lower Loft Renewals... on 17:14 - May 24 with 1840 viewsdaveB

Lower Loft Renewals... on 17:04 - May 24 by BasingstokeR

I just find it slighty strange this has only really been announced via the renewal emails and some Tweets, and that there hasn't been some sort of official announcement about this. There must have been quite a few complaints back via the Box Office. Everything else the club have done recently has been done really professionally with lots of forethought and clear communication.


yeah you would have thought they would explain it on the offish at least, all very strange
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Lower Loft Renewals... on 19:45 - May 24 with 1748 viewsnadera78

Lower Loft Renewals... on 16:49 - May 24 by lowerloftgirl

An open response to Tony Fernandes, Amit Bhatia, and Phil Beard,
>
> This is simply wrong ! No discussion, no warning, nothing, just like a
> polictical party sneaking out the bad stuff under the cover of the good
> news and hoping no one would notice. Like a dictatorship, even briatore
> understood keeping the lower loft a mixed stand. You can not, and have no
> right to just throw loyal supporters out of their seats like this,
> Supporters like myself and many others around me who have stood and sat in
> the same place for decades, through good and very many bad times. Tell me
> how many families with under 8's will turn up at midweek games, winter
> nights, and against foes like chelsea, west ham etc, and how many were
> there against vauxhall motors ????? I'll tell you, very very few. The loft
> has always been the vocal lung of the stadium, the home end. Your stupid
> dicision announced today on twitter will kill the stadiums voice. The
> lower loft is obviously the wrong place for a family stand, anyone would
> have told you that, if you had bothered to ask. And where do you plan to
> put all these displaced friends and families with no under 8's in their
> groups ? Surely you must realise that the great displaced will want to sit
> together in their previous groups, how will you accommodate this ? And
> will those already in the relocated areas want the groups of the great
> unwashed moved there ? Everyone I have spoken to this evening are
> disgusted, and in shock at this very ill thought out idea. I'm sure there
> will be 100's / 1000's complaining to you in the next few days as this
> news creeps out. I strongly ask you to stop and reverse this action before
> it is to late, you are simply hurting to many people, and creating a
> nightmare.
>
> I await your urgent response
>
> Yours
>
> QPR Loyal supporter since 1973


We have passed on your email.
>
> Unfortunately they still maintain that any adult without a junior in the
> Lower Loft will have to find alternative seats.
>
> Please let us know the best number to reach you on to discuss the best
> available seats.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Box Office
> QPR Holdings Limited


It has been brought to my attention that a number of people have renewed
today with no problem, in their original seats, no under 8's, and qpr
comfirmation emails recieved. WHAT IS GOING ON ?
I will be coming to the box office very soon to discuss matters face to
face, in the meantime please start thinking about where you are going to
move my group of 10 people, because we have no intention of being
seperated ! What an utter mess all this is, disgracful !



Wow, talk about an overreaction.
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Lower Loft Renewals... on 20:24 - May 24 with 1723 viewsHollowayRanger

being chairmen of a football club must be the most thankless task going

Listen to the band play!
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Lower Loft Renewals... on 20:39 - May 24 with 1709 viewsdaveB

not really a thankless task, they get plenty of praise but it seems a bit stupid to stand and applaud everything they do. IMO they've made a mistake over this family stand, rather than being together as a family this new scheme has split mine up and probably means I'll have to lose the kids ticket which surely defeats the object.

i'm all for having a family stand and can see what they are trying to do but it's a bit of a kick in the balls to have Fernandes saying one minute how important the fans are and that prices are frozen and the next be told we have to move to a more expensive area of the stadium or don't come.

i know it's not am issue for many on here but this is the second time this has happened at QPR now with fans being moved and it's not right

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Lower Loft Renewals... on 20:39 - May 24 with 1709 viewsBasingstokeR

If this is the worst he gets as a Chairman then we're in for a brilliant ride!
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Lower Loft Renewals... on 20:53 - May 24 with 1701 viewsClubber

It has been said so many times how the atmosphere in the last five games at 'Fortress loftus rd' helped keep us up. Then they go and turn the home end into a nursery, bloody ridiculous, bet halfway through the season they will ask for the same atmosphere as last season. It cant happen as they replaced the singers in the home end with five year olds.

"My prediction?. . . . . . . . . pain"

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Lower Loft Renewals... on 21:09 - May 24 with 1688 viewsClubber

Lower Loft Renewals... on 19:45 - May 24 by nadera78

Wow, talk about an overreaction.


Not really when something is part of your life for that long .

"My prediction?. . . . . . . . . pain"

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