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Looks like the ale in the 1907 got the better of you given the edits
Good to read of Hornets scoring a few but not to read of them losing. Wishing them every success for the season. I'd like to go to a game, but I'm not over the pettiness and loathing some Hornets fans have towards RAFC despite a (virtually) free ride at RAFC (for years). The loathing exists even now at our wholly RAFC owned stadium, where they pay next to nowt, yet they still spit venom towards RAFC at every opportunity. Hopefully their vilification will disappear in time and we can find a way to co-exist for the benefit of our town.
One for the supporters organisations of both codes to work on to build bridges?
Digging up the Fiji game - oh dear. The reasons why that game wasn't held at Spotland have been in the public domain for a long time. For the nth time, this was not the fault of the RAFC chair. Hornets legal action against RAFC failed on lack of evidence. Also, Hornets could not give assurance that the requirements of the safety certificate at the ground (held by RAFC) could be satisfied nor were they prepared to pay the necessary costs to comply with said certificate. Hosting the game under those circumstances would be illegal.
Hornets pay a peppercorn rent to use the COA, but still wanted free external hoardings (they still have one at least!), free offices, free trophy cabinet, free this and that as well. Would they get these things for free anywhere else? No. Commercial reality - you get what you pay for. If you don't pay the going rate, you don't get. Demanding freebies from someone else's business as though you are entitled to these things as of right is just bonkers. It seems that reality has hit home in the Hornets boardroom, but not amongst their most militant followers.
Great to see a thawing of relations between Dale and Hornets, but if you are going to dig up old gripes from the past, expect a response.
No doubt both clubs can work together in the future for the benefit of the town, but this constant whining from a few Hornets fans makes me think those fans would be happier at another venue rather than a cheap rent deal at the COA. Off you pop then.
The proposed EGM of 23rd March 2020, contained a resolution asking existing shareholders to waive their pre-emption rights for 5 years. Fortunately (!), this was postponed because of the Covid pandemic and we didn't get Rogered. 100% agree with Brierls and D_Alien. There is no need to take up your pre-emptive rights this time round. At least they are not being taken away! Technically, and legally, excellent work by the club and the Odgens. Sent out on the 22nd as promised. A shame not everyone entitled to receive it has. For now. Something to sort out ASAP.
Same old, only one way, ineffectual, overcoached and dire to watch nonsense from players capable of so much more. We're on the cusp of something fantastic happening to the club off the field. Is it really going to be utilised in the best way with play that is so bafflingly boring to watch?
Will we ever leave a man up towards the centre circle when defending a corner so that we can drag two of their defenders away and have an outlet from a clearance who can press on to try and score or at least hold play up while the troops can gather to attack? We have players in Sinclair and Hayes, and others, who could perform that role well. Looks like a tactic that is viable in this league but alien to our manager. He'd rather invite a repeat attack from a clearance than have someone available to hold the ball up and utilise time better to our advantage.
When you weigh events of this season up, I suppose it's an OK league position, but in a poor league. All we see is the same old same old same old backwards sideways borefest. Our work in the final third tonight was abysmal, apart from East's shot that hit the bar. The last four dire draws in a row alone do not indicate the progression required for success is anywhere near imminent. Performance play only(Jim's priority), not playing with a desire to be winners.
It's a tough call, but on what our eyes tell us, Jim's time as head coach has to be under question if this is all he can offer.
Despite disillusionment with Jim's one track only the performance matters whoever else it bores style, should the Ogden takeover go through I will 100% renew my season card. This is the best hope we've had in years of being able to survive and compete on and off the pitch. What the scene will look like and how it will work, who knows, but I don't want to miss it.
I doubt few, or even none of the remarks previously made by supporters amount to hyperbole. They seem to be well observed and astute comments on where we are, what fans perceive, and what we think we could see that is better.
a way of speaking or writing that makes someone or something sound bigger, better, more, etc. than they are: The blurb on the back of the book was full of the usual hyperbole - "enthralling", "fascinating", and so on."
We heard a lot of that from the presenter at the end of season awards do tonight. Not on this forum which is more honest.
"Jim has guided us through some barren times this season and kept things together, so he deserves credit for that. We have stayed up! Disappointed with Jim's post-match interview though. Despite the state of the pitch here, or anywhere, he is still insisting on playing in a manner that is more difficult on poor surfaces.
"That's the most important thing to me, how we play our football" he said, again. So reminiscent of BBM telling us the team were wonderful in defeat because they kept to style. As EllDale said, (Red card thread?) "Let’s get out of this mindset originally fostered by BBM of style over substance".
Results, points, entertainment, adapting to the state of the game to improve our chances of success lag behind in importance. This is the way we play, we don't change, it's boring to watch most of the time and lets every other team in the league know what we will do. Gives opponents an advantage every game. If Jim can only offer one way, and refuses to budge on the one way, his tenure has to be questioned. He surely needs to be more open minded if we are to achieve anything?"
After what we witnessed today, nothing will ever change with Jim McNulty in charge. We've seen it too often. Totally inflexible or unable to change. Points lost yet again by having no plan B. Against a part -time relegated team who had a go rather than wanting to impress in game metrics.
I hope our potential investors can see through this charade.
"There was a stoppage mid-way through the first half when Gateshead defender Joe Cook tried to get on the end of a free-kick and slid off the pitch into the advertising boards. After receiving treatment, Cook was back on his feet, but was swiftly substituted."
Jim's post-match seems to indicate an appeal against the red card is being considered. The irony of the Poolies singing "Your not fit to referee" at the hapless official a few minutes before Mitchell's red says a lot about the calibre of the referee today. He had us playing in yellow and allowed 'Pools 'keeper to play in, erm, yellow. No clash there unless you have sight problems.
I hope their 29 Parkes (the bloke dying with two broken legs yet was able to complete the game) gets his comeuppance one day, or at least an Oscar nomination. What a vile individual.
We looked at bit more interesting going forward in the first half than of late, but there is still so much wasteful tippy tappy sideways backwards going on that consumes time and drains the enthusiasm of those watching. The irony of how we equalised showed one or two of the senior fans in The Sandy to have a better idea than Jim how we could get a goal!
A wrong was righted, and a draw was a fair result. A shocking miss by Mitchell first half, some great saves by Chapman second half.
Given the criticism the BIFFO's are giving their lot online tonight, one can only wonder how uninspiring next Saturday may be. Cue a classic!
Dale fans know who the bad guys are. We have experience and are very good at it. Little has been said about the current set of potential owners because they have been scrutinised and look a million times more credible than the clowns from 2020 / 21. Hence little criticism on here. Honesty counts, pretence is worth nothing.
Southall never owned a single share in RAFC, never mind 25%. He was invited in by an Alexander Jarvis viz a viz "a deal that went wrong". The rest is a matter of historical record. Southall was eventually declared bankrupt.
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