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Reply | tomorrow can't come quick enough
at 20:07 20 Aug 2020
Superficially the rule appears odd, though it might be best to hear of the reasons for it before jumping to conclusions. I'd like to believe the FA have made it based on sound Government medical and scientific advice but maybe not.
For example, one factor might be crowds getting into and dispersing from grounds as well as in stadiums during the match.
Basing restrictions simply on total ground capacity ignores how much seating there is where it should be easier to socially distance, eg there's a huge difference between a ground with 200 seats and 2,800 standing compared with 1,500 seats and 1,500 standing. |
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Reply | tomorrow can't come quick enough
at 09:05 20 May 2020
That list is astounding and a secret for much too long.
Reading Beardys you'd be forgiven for thinking that the EFL is some remote corporate body. According to their narrative, its CEO and chief pantomime villain woke up one morning and on a whim thought to herself "Oh, I think I'll kick Bury out of the league today for something to do".
The reality is rather different. A couple of dictionary definitions of "league" are:
"group of sports clubs who compete for championship" and "an association of sporting clubs that organises matches between member teams". That's exactly what the EFL, for all its faults, is.
There's surely little doubt about the vast amount of ill-feeling and resentment that must have developed towards Bury from member clubs and a major reason why the EFL acted as it did. |
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Reply | tomorrow can't come quick enough
at 18:58 6 Feb 2020
Evenin' all
Ex-Bury fan popping in again.
Quick summary of where they're at:
1. Four possible ways forward: Benwell, the Consortium, a Phoenix Club (PC), and Dale putting out a team.
2. Benwell has gone very quiet as have Forever Bury who were cheerleading him.
3. Next to nowt known about the Consortium who're keeping their cards very close to the chest. They're even getting a poster on Beardys to copy and paste the Consortium Head's comments. The only one of their group known is Mark Dunne, a convicted fraudster.
4. Dale putting out a team next season is rarely mentioned. Highly unlikely IMO but defo wouldn't rule it out.
5. Simple characterisation is wide support for the PC on Beardys and the Consortium on Facebook who were Day worshippers to the last.
6. Lots of new posters on Beardys stirring trouble in recent days - seemingly from Facebook. Almost certainly an orchestrated campaign, possibly manipulated by the Consortium.
7. Backstabbling within the PC. Friends falling out with each other.
Picking up on a recent post, there are some still being paid by Dale according to a Beardys poster.
Where will it all end? Not a clue but the Fun Never Stops, for now at least.. [Post edited 6 Feb 2020 19:07]
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Reply | tomorrow can't come quick enough
at 08:56 27 Sep 2019
I'm not convinced that even C&N Sporting Risk were all that serious a bidder. They were scrambling around a few hours before the deadline getting information from Accrington about their finances to help their bid. My suspicion is that they might have used Bury's situation to raise their profile with the EFL and its clubs to further their sporting/football analytics business.
As for Frith, he's damned if he does get involved and damned if he doesn't so I wouldn't be too critical. Certainly he's coming in for stick on Beardy but I wonder whether there's now party political point-scoring going on there plus others taking the opportunity to vent their feelings about politicians in general.
My take is that there's now a sizeable majority in favour of getting on with the phoenix club route. Maybe another Town Hall meeting beckons soon? |
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Reply | tomorrow can't come quick enough
at 12:48 4 Sep 2019
The EFL statement said that it will "consult". It might be unwise to assume that this necessarily means a vote of clubs because "consultation" by organisations doesn't usually involve one. Should there be a vote, the EFL Board might make a recommendation at the same time.
In some ways, re-admitting Bury in 20/21 would place it at an unfair advantage vis-Ã -vis other L2 clubs, including those near the bottom of L1 and top of the Conference this season. Unlike the latter, Bury would have a much better idea of their budget and the luxury of an additional 7 months to plan for the new season, unencumbered by the day-to-day issues of running a club this one. The only disadvantage I can immediately see is putting together a new team from scratch. |
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Reply | tomorrow can't come quick enough
at 14:39 30 Aug 2019
Oh, I'm with you.
Let me clear. I used to be a Bury fan but am no longer for the reasons in my earlier very long post.
Regarding the EFL, FB seem to think they can bring a legal challenge against the EFL because they believe the EFL broke its own rules.
I'm no lawyer, so couldn't really comment. |
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Reply | tomorrow can't come quick enough
at 11:23 30 Aug 2019
Sorry, not quite the full deal but I'm the (former) Bury fan who's posted earlier.
Agree with much that has been said. The vitriol against the EFL and Jeavons has been incredible though, I suppose, considerably fuelled by the grief process. Some still don't seem to get though that the EFL isn't based on Mars but comprises 71/72 clubs and it is they who are ultimately responsible for any decisions, how the league is run and who the Chief Exec is.
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see a legal challenge against the decision soon. Should that be successful it's very difficult to predict with any degree of certainty what the ramifications would be. Would Bury be asked to complete their fixtures (assuming they could) threatening further the integrity of the competition, would they be "suspended" for a season, would the EFL seek to find another way of expelling the club?
And what's Dale's next step?
This story is far from over. |
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Reply | tomorrow can't come quick enough
at 09:48 28 Aug 2019
I remember arguing with Ryan in the early days when he had "100% no doubts" about Day. The lad is just not very bright. Apparently he thought in an "Off topic" thread that "free schools" means non-fee paying schools!
TBH I can almost forgive the likes of him and PDiddy because they can't help their naivety and stupidity.
What really galls now though is that many of those who defended Day are articulate, highly-educated and intelligent. So, why couldn't they see what I and others could? Don't know but can only think some let their love of the club blind them from rational thought and/or they thought it was "bad form" to be critical of anyone running the club and we should all have been as positive as possible. [Post edited 28 Aug 2019 9:51]
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Reply | tomorrow can't come quick enough
at 20:05 21 Aug 2019
Hi all
Long time lurker here. (I think) I know who Tupac is and he talks loads of sense.
I was one of those who posted frequently about Day on Beardy's. For my efforts I got variously accused of being "sad", "a Daley", "fan of another club", "negative" etc etc. I once posted something about the accounts of one of Day's companies and told "it was none of my business". Eventually, I gave up because it felt like continually banging my head against a brick wall.
Nowadays, I regard myself as an interested onlooker rather than supporter - various factors led to that but the main ones were that the club under Day was too far removed from the one that I once loved and grew up with and I just didn't feel "at home" with a large section of the support.
Just a few mini rants (if only to get things of my chest!)
First the EFL - yes, there's far from perfect and yes the FPP could be tightened. However, we live in a blame culture where everything seems to be everybody's fault such as the government, neighbours, banks or council. And the EFL provide such a scapegoat. Reading Beardy's you'd be forgiven for thinking they're some remote bureaucracy heading by an autocrat keen "to make her mark". Well, sorry, no - they're a democratic organisation, comprising 72 members, whose purpose is to run a sporting competition with a set of rules ultimately agreed by those members. Is it any wonder some of those clubs might take such a dim view of Bury given that a number of them appear on the CVA as owed money by the club?
Second, there's more blinkers worn by many posters than in countless 3.15's at Catterick. What really irks is that all too often when anybody posts anything "negative" there's a knee-jerk reaction with the poster routinely dismissed as a "troll" or "Daley" etc. A case in point was when somebody posted about players not being paid. Even when Conn backed up the claim, Lord Lowe denied it so it couldn't possibly be right - you couldn't make it up could you?
Third, what's particularly galling is that some of those now putting so much time and effort into petitions, contacting the EFL, writing to the media etc etc were the same ones who were so dismissive over adverse comments about Day. TBH I think any attempt to remove Day or get him to change his ways were very unlikely to succeed - however, the point is that we don't know without trying.
As for Joy, her heart is in the right place and she was one of those who tried to stand up to Day but with little support from senior Forever Bury colleagues as her unfortunate spat with them on Beardy's a few years back demonstrated. Reading some of her posts, though, she comes across as maybe "not quite being all there" and much of what she said in the interview is clearly abject nonsense. As for FB, Giffard is a thoroughly pleasant chap but a visitor from Mars could be forgiven that the whole raison d'etre of the organisation was to run a beer festival and retain the cabin. There was never even a hint of any public criticism of Day during his tenure.
As you've probably gathered the genesis of the current situation lies firmly at Day's door IMO and Dale is now here with the aim of I don't really know TBH.
Actually, it goes far deeper than that because lots could be said about underlying factors such as having two PL giants on the doorstep, changing demographics, too many clubs in the conurbation chasing too few fans and greater inequality following the formation of the PL etc etc.
You're very fortunate having such a well-managed club at Dale. Don't be seduced by unrealistic ambitions - my strong impression is that you won't. |
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Reply | tomorrow can't come quick enough
at 12:01 6 Jul 2018
Yeh, the point about Mederco (BFC) is that it's Stewie's company which owns the shares in the club as recorded in the list of shareholders and on the club's official site. |
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Reply | tomorrow can't come quick enough
at 09:37 6 Jul 2018
Glad to see that you lot have your fingers on the button. There's still nowt on GiggLane.com * about this latest CCJ, the second highest during Stewie's time BTW. The smart money is on Brass or Clarke being owed the cash.
* Would be helpful if it could be posted there to open a few more eyes.
Mederco(BFC)'s accounts are now over 9 months overdue with a (suspended) proposal to strike off the company so it might be a case of if, rather than when, they're filed. [Post edited 6 Jul 2018 9:38]
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