| Terrorist Sympathisers. 07:33 - Dec 2 with 7623 views | Private_Partz |
That's what Cameron thinks all those who oppose bombing Syria are. What a pathetic excuse of a man he is. I doubt even the most extreme here would come out with that although I guess some will agree with him now. He should apologise and withdraw the remark although I am not holding my breath. |  |
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| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 07:37 - Dec 2 with 2375 views | epaul |
Don't expect anything less of the c*nt, smacks of desperation f you ask me, tvvat should resign
He really is the devil child of B liar and T******r |  |
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The b*stards are coming back though |
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| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 07:46 - Dec 2 with 2367 views | monmouth |
| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 07:37 - Dec 2 by epaul |
Don't expect anything less of the c*nt, smacks of desperation f you ask me, tvvat should resign
He really is the devil child of B liar and T******r |
You think Gideon would be less of an arsehole? |  |
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| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 07:56 - Dec 2 with 2357 views | jack_the_lad |
I think Cameron has a private agenda for bombing Syria, he has seen how the Iraq war has made Tony Blair a very wealthy man and wants to follow suit. |  | | |
| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 08:03 - Dec 2 with 2347 views | monmouth |
Any vote like this should be a free anonymous vote. It's outrageous that pressure is applied to get a yes to killing people by cowards. Just as bad as the terrorists but without even the personal risk and commitment. Privileged scum. | |
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| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 08:04 - Dec 2 with 2347 views | Neath_Jack |
There'll be a few on here that would say the same. In fact it's been insinuated more than a few times on here over the past few weeks.
There's no way we should be going in over there. |  |
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| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 08:07 - Dec 2 with 2340 views | dailew |
Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.
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| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 08:11 - Dec 2 with 2327 views | epaul |
| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 07:46 - Dec 2 by monmouth |
You think Gideon would be less of an arsehole? |
Fair point......... | |
| The hair and the beard have gone I am now conforming to society, tis a sad day
The b*stards are coming back though |
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| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 08:11 - Dec 2 with 2328 views | monmouth |
| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 08:07 - Dec 2 by dailew |
Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.
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Aye, I'm infrustrated idealist mode this morning. | |
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| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 08:21 - Dec 2 with 2311 views | Nogginthenog |
| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 08:11 - Dec 2 by monmouth |
Aye, I'm infrustrated idealist mode this morning. |
With so much anti war feeling throughout the country why are these b££tards in parliament ignoring the public strength of feeling, democracy my arse. |  | | |
| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 08:27 - Dec 2 with 2300 views | dailew |
All liberals voting in favor.
What's the point of them anymore?
The party should just go away and die. | |
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| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 08:31 - Dec 2 with 2300 views | Lohengrin |
| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 08:21 - Dec 2 by Nogginthenog |
With so much anti war feeling throughout the country why are these b££tards in parliament ignoring the public strength of feeling, democracy my arse. |
What was the public strength of feeling two weeks ago in the wake of the Paris attack? Do you think there will be many shedding a tear in The Smith's on Saturday if news filters through that the RAF had put paid to Luton jihadis the night before?
Nemesis is coming. |  |
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| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 08:38 - Dec 2 with 2291 views | Nogginthenog |
| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 08:31 - Dec 2 by Lohengrin |
What was the public strength of feeling two weeks ago in the wake of the Paris attack? Do you think there will be many shedding a tear in The Smith's on Saturday if news filters through that the RAF had put paid to Luton jihadis the night before?
Nemesis is coming. |
The strength of feeling was no doubt very intense, that aids Cameron in his case to do something. However the intensive bombing of IS in Syria will have no effect whatsoever on those who wish to do us harm on Britain's streets. | | | |
| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 08:40 - Dec 2 with 2291 views | Jack_Meoff |
| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 08:21 - Dec 2 by Nogginthenog |
With so much anti war feeling throughout the country why are these b££tards in parliament ignoring the public strength of feeling, democracy my arse. |
It's almost like.....they don't give one flying f*ck about what the public think, and only care about profits for arm dealers and furthering private interests exploiting other countries resources....
See also Blair, Tony.
Democracy my arse indeed - we need to wake up. |  |
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| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 08:46 - Dec 2 with 2276 views | Lohengrin |
| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 08:38 - Dec 2 by Nogginthenog |
The strength of feeling was no doubt very intense, that aids Cameron in his case to do something. However the intensive bombing of IS in Syria will have no effect whatsoever on those who wish to do us harm on Britain's streets. |
That's a job for Reeco's Rangers... | |
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| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 08:48 - Dec 2 with 2274 views | Lohengrin |
| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 08:40 - Dec 2 by Jack_Meoff |
It's almost like.....they don't give one flying f*ck about what the public think, and only care about profits for arm dealers and furthering private interests exploiting other countries resources....
See also Blair, Tony.
Democracy my arse indeed - we need to wake up. |
The British public very much want to see these people eradicated from what I've seen and heard around me. | |
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| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 09:14 - Dec 2 with 2232 views | Lord_Bony |
The R.A.F. Going into Syria worries me on a few points.
1. Mission Creep. Once we re in there it will lead onto other things getting us fully embroiled in the situation.
2. Inefectiveness. We won't have much effect and it will make our streets even more dangerous.
3. Toppling Assad. High on the agenda...maybe that's the main objective eventually which leads us finally to....
4. The Syrian Army. If we bomb them intentionally or unintentionally it will open a can of worms.
RAF pilots could find themselves shot at and in dogfights with Syrian jets and ground SAM missiles if it turned ugly...not a good place to be,they could be shot by both sides there.
I would prefer if the UK stood on the sidelines on this one. |  |
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| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 09:16 - Dec 2 with 2228 views | Pegojack |
Cameron's got more faces than the town hall clock.
In Aneurin Bevan's famous words, Tories are lower than vermin. |  | | |
| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 10:05 - Dec 2 with 2173 views | EvenThisNameIsTaken |
It's easy enough saying "don't bomb syria"!
But what are the reasonable and realistic alternatives to protect Europe, and primarily the UK from terrorist assholes!?? | |
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| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 10:15 - Dec 2 with 2162 views | Darran |
So here's the scenario.
We don't bomb Syria,we pull all the troops out of every country we are in,do atrocities like Paris suddenly stop for ever or are Isis justified to go on killing people whenever they feel like because of Tony and Dubya?
No need to answer. |  |
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| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 10:16 - Dec 2 with 2159 views | perchrockjack |
I see his point. Corbyn wants a political settlement.Fine words but how to do it Jez. FACT IS Corbyn doesn't like shoot to kill so how can he possible say we put troops in on the ground.
Like Livingstone ,two disgusting individuals who would allow carnage on our streets if in power.
Corbyns supporters wont see this and would never use weapons og any kind anytime.
MEANWHILE, he stands on the sidelines as a latter day version of Gandhi.
His own party will be voting for the motion so lets not assume cameron is the only one of that opinion.
And no I don't want to bomb either maily because the ISIL WILL HIDE BEHIND CHILDREN AND WOMEN AGAIN.
Just wished we could blow the whole of the middle east away.
Truly, it shows how wrong we ve been sticking our noses into other countries, from Africa to Fiji.
If we had not have had an Empire ,we would not have the devisive class structure in this country, where the "working class" feel bitter and oppressed iand the "upper classes" superior and smug. | |
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| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 10:21 - Dec 2 with 2151 views | Jack_Kass |
| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 10:05 - Dec 2 by EvenThisNameIsTaken |
It's easy enough saying "don't bomb syria"!
But what are the reasonable and realistic alternatives to protect Europe, and primarily the UK from terrorist assholes!?? |
Probably getting to work on getting rid of the ones already here would be a good idea..
If we're going to drop bombs on Syria to 'eliminate IS', then surely we're going to do the same to other countries, including our own.. There not all cwtched up in a compound in Damascus ffs | |
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| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 10:33 - Dec 2 with 2132 views | Lohengrin |
| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 10:21 - Dec 2 by Jack_Kass |
Probably getting to work on getting rid of the ones already here would be a good idea..
If we're going to drop bombs on Syria to 'eliminate IS', then surely we're going to do the same to other countries, including our own.. There not all cwtched up in a compound in Damascus ffs |
Ansolutely spot on, Kass. As gratifying as it will be eliminating "British" jihadis in Syria it is not enough unless we move against the enemy within in its entirety. All those on MI5/Special Branch watchlists have to be collared as soon as the green light is given for the RAF to go in. Otherwise what's the point? Why target Raqqa but leave these bastards free to roam the streets of Cardiff, Luton or Bradford. If it's a war we're engaged in there can be no half measures. [Post edited 2 Dec 2015 12:01]
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| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 10:40 - Dec 2 with 2109 views | Neath_Jack |
| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 10:15 - Dec 2 by Darran |
So here's the scenario.
We don't bomb Syria,we pull all the troops out of every country we are in,do atrocities like Paris suddenly stop for ever or are Isis justified to go on killing people whenever they feel like because of Tony and Dubya?
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So you think that bombing these countries stop atrocities? Really?
What if Russia suddenly decides to start bombing this country indiscriminately to try and get the ISIS mob that live here? Would that be ok? Of course it wouldn't, so why is it ok to try and bomb the f*ckers in Syria where thousands more innocents will be killed?
It's a right royal f*king mess, and one we can do without getting involved in. It'll only be a matter of time before we then send in our ground troops, who will be sent in without the correct gear and will die in their hundreds. Would you be happy for your son or grandson to be sent over there?
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| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 10:45 - Dec 2 with 2105 views | Lord_Bony |
| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 10:05 - Dec 2 by EvenThisNameIsTaken |
It's easy enough saying "don't bomb syria"!
But what are the reasonable and realistic alternatives to protect Europe, and primarily the UK from terrorist assholes!?? |
Let Putin do his work first. He has 150,000 freshly conscripted troops ready to go in and flush them out...bombing from the air can only achieve so much... | |
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| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 10:46 - Dec 2 with 2103 views | EvenThisNameIsTaken |
| Terrorist Sympathisers. on 10:21 - Dec 2 by Jack_Kass |
Probably getting to work on getting rid of the ones already here would be a good idea..
If we're going to drop bombs on Syria to 'eliminate IS', then surely we're going to do the same to other countries, including our own.. There not all cwtched up in a compound in Damascus ffs |
But haven't you heard of the european court of human rights?
As soon as a terrorist is identified, they're imprisoned and released back into the UK society. As we've already seen - deporting these assholes is a lot easier said than done.
Interestingly, prisons are becoming more and more like ISIS training recruitment camps. Therefore the person coming out of prison is possibly going to be WORSE!
The other option is to delete them from society. A much more permanent option that will again lead to complaints.
We cannot remove people who now only hold UK passports without it being a drawn out legal wrangle - a very expensive hurdle. After this decision has been made, they will then likely refer matters to the ECHR and again we will look at this being a year or so before a ruling is made, and then a further year or longer for appeals to be made.
The whole situation is ridiculous - a scenario brought about as a result of many years of a society screwed by over-liberalism and apathy.
So, your suggestion is clearly not going to be realistic in this current climate - or as the current system stands. We could of course withdraw from the ECHR and revert back to the earlier Human Rights Charter that we've held successfully prior to joining Europe - but this too will raise complaints. [Post edited 2 Dec 2015 10:50]
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