| Ashes thread 17:11 - Jul 15 with 107896 views | johnhoop |
Now that the World Cup’s done and dusted we can turn our attention to the next major event.
For me the most interesting questions about team selection are;
1) Do we open with Jason Roy? For me it’s a no brainer. I know all the arguments against- he doesn’t even open for Surrey, he struggles against the moving ball etc- but I feel that he’s in such good form and the alternatives are so mediocre that it would be silly not to. If he does come off he could give us control of the game in the first couple of hours. Him and Rory Burns for me.
2) Now that Jofra Archer has to have a place in the side, who are the other two quick bowlers going to be. If fit I guess Anderson has to play and I would give the third spot to Woakes but this means no place for Stuart Broad and the 90 mph+ Mark Wood.
3) Which spinner to go with - Ali or Rashid? Ali’s batting form seems to have dipped but it’s still not an easy decision to make.
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| Ashes thread on 11:31 - Sep 12 with 1736 views | CroydonCaptJack |
| Ashes thread on 11:23 - Sep 12 by TheChef |
Surprised they've opted to bowl though. I thought usually at The Oval you avoided batting last if you could. |
Yes, I agree. |  | | |
| Ashes thread on 11:40 - Sep 12 with 1725 views | Nov77 |
No surprise there, been coming. |  |
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| Ashes thread on 12:23 - Sep 12 with 1689 views | CamberleyR |
England have had their highest opening partnership of the series here - 27
Says it all really. |  |
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| Ashes thread on 12:43 - Sep 12 with 1676 views | CamberleyR |
McGrath on the radio saying 3-1 would be a fair reflection of the series. Conveniently forgets them hanging on six down in the second at Lord's still needing another 100 odd when we were denied bowling the seamers because of the light and because of the earlier rain, denied a number of overs to bowl at them. [Post edited 12 Sep 2019 13:16]
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| Ashes thread on 13:07 - Sep 12 with 1640 views | jonno |
I see the England batters still haven't learned how to bat in a test match. Denly out wafting outside the off stump and Root very very lucky doing the same and being dropped and top edging an obvious trap to fine leg and being dropped by Siddle. |  | | |
| Ashes thread on 14:35 - Sep 12 with 1604 views | runningman75 |
| Ashes thread on 13:07 - Sep 12 by jonno |
I see the England batters still haven't learned how to bat in a test match. Denly out wafting outside the off stump and Root very very lucky doing the same and being dropped and top edging an obvious trap to fine leg and being dropped by Siddle. |
The modern English cricketer seems to play most games at the mentality of a maximum of 50 overs a side and goes for shots when not needed. Hence why Roy at 29 years old only played in 5 tests with a poor average compared to 80 odd one day games at a decent average. | | | |
| Ashes thread on 15:03 - Sep 12 with 1588 views | CamberleyR |
All the wickets today have been from balls that shouldn't have got them out. On pitches like this you should make the bowlers work bloody hard for their wickets, not hand them gimmes. I'd lump on Smith getting another double hundred on this pitch. | |
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| Ashes thread on 15:11 - Sep 12 with 1579 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Ashes thread on 12:43 - Sep 12 by CamberleyR |
McGrath on the radio saying 3-1 would be a fair reflection of the series. Conveniently forgets them hanging on six down in the second at Lord's still needing another 100 odd when we were denied bowling the seamers because of the light and because of the earlier rain, denied a number of overs to bowl at them. [Post edited 12 Sep 2019 13:16]
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He’s right. We’ve been dreadful overall. | | | |
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| Ashes thread on 15:49 - Sep 12 with 2260 views | jonno |
| Ashes thread on 15:03 - Sep 12 by CamberleyR |
All the wickets today have been from balls that shouldn't have got them out. On pitches like this you should make the bowlers work bloody hard for their wickets, not hand them gimmes. I'd lump on Smith getting another double hundred on this pitch. |
That has been pretty much the story of the whole series. | | | |
| Ashes thread on 16:40 - Sep 12 with 2222 views | Nov77 |
our bowlers now having to bail us out with the bat again. | |
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| Ashes thread on 17:02 - Sep 12 with 2189 views | runningman75 |
Good batting pitch when England should be getting 400 but will be lucky to get 250. | | | |
| Ashes thread on 17:03 - Sep 12 with 2188 views | Stanisgod |
Yet again, for the umpteenth time this series, we fall apart after tea, what the f@ck do they eat? |  |
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| Ashes thread on 17:07 - Sep 12 with 2176 views | nix |
| Ashes thread on 16:40 - Sep 12 by Nov77 |
our bowlers now having to bail us out with the bat again. |
Burns has been the only batsman who’s looked at all confident. Root was all over the show. We just couldn’t get them away and the pressure piled on our batsmen. Their bowlers apart from Siddle have done really well. Just plugging along the same ball over and over and then just introducing some variety and taking them by surprise.
We can’t say we haven’t had our chances with Root dropped three times and Curren saved by a no ball. |  | | |
| Ashes thread on 17:27 - Sep 12 with 2159 views | ted_hendrix |
England Captain Joe Root yesterday "England must build towards winning the Ashes in Australia in 2021-22 We have to use the next two and a half years to focus on putting in a winning tour down under,"
England Captain Joe Root today "We're still shit even my bed collapsed last night" |  |
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| Ashes thread on 17:41 - Sep 12 with 2145 views | Nov77 |
Every time leach bats it’s to dig us out of a hole. | |
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| Ashes thread on 18:04 - Sep 12 with 2132 views | Rangersw12 |
Curtains for Bairstow he shouldn't be anywhere near the winter squads
Unsure on Butler unless you use him as a wicketkeeper and bats 7 | | | |
| Ashes thread on 19:29 - Sep 12 with 2093 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Ashes thread on 20:49 - Sep 8 by isawqpratwcity |
I have to remind you that I don't hate England, but otherwise, on what you've said there, I do agree that we are very different people.
I look forward to our continued exchange of views in the future, or of my receiving further down-arrows from you, in the event that you can't think of anything to say. |
You get far too upset for an adult about getting down-arrowed. |  | | |
| Ashes thread on 21:41 - Sep 12 with 2015 views | derbyhoop |
Burns has taken to test cricket and is developing a style that should bring him loads of runs. But virtually every other batsman has gone backwards. But not sure who the alfer gives are? Not Vince, Robson, Malan, Jennings. |  |
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| Ashes thread on 22:58 - Sep 12 with 1987 views | Rangersw12 |
| Ashes thread on 21:41 - Sep 12 by derbyhoop |
Burns has taken to test cricket and is developing a style that should bring him loads of runs. But virtually every other batsman has gone backwards. But not sure who the alfer gives are? Not Vince, Robson, Malan, Jennings. |
Sibley to open and Pope at 6 surely deserve a chance
The cupboard is pretty bare though , 4 years of prioritising white ball cricket has taken its toll | | | |
| Ashes thread on 01:17 - Sep 13 with 1950 views | SydneyRs |
| Ashes thread on 11:07 - Sep 12 by CroydonCaptJack |
I am always ranting on about this.
I really think the toss can be so important. I think whoever wins the first toss decides in the first test then it should be in turns after that. That way you still benefit in an odd number test series but it is much less reliant on an element of luck than now. |
Totally agree. I've always said the same, toss before the first game and then alternate. Far fairer. I know the stats say the side winning the toss doesn't win that much more often, but that overlooks the huge number of mismatches in test cricket where the better side would win regardless of the toss. It would be far more influential between more closely matched teams.
I recall back in the Steve Waugh days, when they needed no additional help to beat England, they won every toss in a 6 game ashes series in England. The chances of that happening should be removed from the game. Its a bigger influence on some pitches than others, but was critical in the last test and therefore the series.
As for the batting, both sides have been poor Smith aside. While England have contributed to their own downfall to an extent, there is also a very consistent attack coming at them. On the other hand England look threatening with Broad and Archer bowling but if you see them off it gets easier. A fit Anderson would have made a lot of difference, but he's 37 now and we need to find someone else. | | | |
| Ashes thread on 11:45 - Sep 13 with 1850 views | Nov77 |
I make that the third time this series Warner has nicked one behind and not walked.
Remember all the abuse the Aussies gave Broad for doing it once? | |
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| Ashes thread on 12:30 - Sep 13 with 1811 views | isawqpratwcity |
| Ashes thread on 19:29 - Sep 12 by Ned_Kennedys |
You get far too upset for an adult about getting down-arrowed. |
It's a criticism, but lacks an argument or proposition of a contradictory fact.
It is a failure of discussion. [Post edited 13 Sep 2019 12:32]
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| Ashes thread on 13:25 - Sep 13 with 1785 views | runningman75 |
Smith needs 304 runs in the match to break Bradman's record in a series. Probably a good bet. | | | |
| Ashes thread on 13:41 - Sep 13 with 1770 views | TheChef |
| Ashes thread on 11:45 - Sep 13 by Nov77 |
I make that the third time this series Warner has nicked one behind and not walked.
Remember all the abuse the Aussies gave Broad for doing it once? |
Would give him the benefit of the doubt on that one - looked like the merest tickle on DRS.
I'm sure the Smith/Lab show this afternoon will be thrilling... |  |
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| Ashes thread on 16:55 - Sep 13 with 1700 views | pastieR |
Man of the series against India, delivers when picked.
quelle surprise | | | |
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