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MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... 08:58 - Jan 10 with 21068 viewsRAFCBLUE

https://www.efl.com/siteassets/image/201920/governance-reviews/bury-review..pdf-

When will the EFL get off the fence? That has to be a question worth asking hard now given the way in which events have unfolded with a failed hostile takeover by a faceless payroll company.

The threatening of Rochdale supporters and the Dale Trust with High Court legal action allows us to remind ourselves of the role of the EFL as regulator.

A regulator regulates. It is there to ensure that the rules and governance is upheld and not overridden to the detriment of the game.

To be fair to the EFL, the EFL HAVE already launched disciplinary actions against "multiple individuals" in August 2021 but that is it so far.

They also confirmed in a statement on 16 August 2021:
https://www.efl.com/news/2021/august/efl-statement-rochdale-afc2/

Furthermore, Morton House MGT, its directors, and representatives, have confirmed to the League they are refusing to co-operate with the League’s ongoing investigations.

As we have highlighted before from the demise of bury fc was the criticisms in the Bird and Bird review, ordered by the Department of Culture Media and Sport.

It's a really good read and if you're interested in doing so make sure you have brew before you start!

The pertinent bit for Dale fans in challenging the EFL and the mockery of a process and our experience as fans so far is on Page 31 (of 33)

"8.3 This case has highlighted several issues with the EFL Regulations, in particular in relation to:

8.3.1 the OAD Test. There is no doubt that the EFL applied the OAD Test properly in relation to Mr Day and Mr Dale. The question is whether the test as currently written is fit for purpose. In particular,
it only looks at a narrow list of objective criteria, and does not take into account various other factors that speak to whether a new owner or director is a fit and proper person to own/run a member Club.

8.3.2 the regulations that apply to changes of ownership of a Club. Once again, the EFL applied those regulations when Mr Dale acquired Bury FC from Mr Day. However, the regulations do not prevent a new owner acquiring the Club before he or she has provided a business plan for the Club and proof of the funding required to underwrite that plan. I am aware that the EFL is already considering blocking changes in control until the new owner has provided adequate evidence of source and sufficiency of funding. For example, it could require the new owner to provide irrevocable financial guarantees of payment of any funding requirements for at least two seasons.

8.3.3 the regulations relating to ongoing monitoring of a Club's financial health. In particular, the Regulations do not currently require League One and Two clubs to submit annual business plans,
underwritten by adequate proof of funding, or half-yearly management accounts, and the SCMP submissions they are required to file were never intended to be and are not an adequate substitute.


NOW HERE ARE THE DIFFICULT QUESTIONS FOR THE EFL:

1. In the testing of Morton House, Andrew Curran, Matthew Southall and any other party are the EFL applying the narrow criteria or, as recommended, the wider consideration of the Bird and Bird review?

2. Have Morton Rose, Curran, Rose, Southall provided their business plan - as opposed to the Club's business plan. Testimony from the the EFL statement indicates this has not occurred. The Bird and Bird review suggests it should have done.

3. Who at the EFL is leading the EFL review? The Bird and Bird review suggested this should be a senior leader.

4. Have Morton House, Curran, Rose or Southall provided the "irrevocable financial guarantees"?

5. When do the EFL expect to conclude the disciplinary investigations?

6. What recommendations from the Bird and Bird review are the EFL applying to the circumstances that exist for Rochdale AFC with a failed hostile takeover by a faceless payroll company?


These are six very challenging question for the EFL and some more very good reasons why the EFL should kick out these folks into touch.

WHERE IS THE EFL IN ALL OF THIS?

As noted above, the EFL have started a disciplinary investigation that is currently ongoing.

The EFL though are deafening in their silence of movement and have provided no public statement since August 2021.

That's nearly FIVE months of silence from the EFL.

If anyone wanted to contact the EFL directly then the details on their website are:

https://www.efl.com/-more/efl-media/efl-press-office/

Email: media@efl.com

Twitter: https://twitter.com/EFL_Comms
[Post edited 10 Jan 2022 9:00]

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MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 12:47 - Feb 5 with 5132 viewsTomRAFC

MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 10:17 - Feb 5 by RAFCBLUE

You're right Wozz - its not fit for purpose.

As Lloyd Grossman would say lets look at the evidence:

(1) On 29th April 2021, Fat Pat witnesses David Bottomley hosting four people at the Ground. Three of these four people are Matthew Southall, Alexander Jarvis and Andrew Curran.

(2) On 1 June 2021 Board withdraw their motions for "investment" at an EGM at the very last minute. This is because the selected investor Martin Halsall withdraws. There was no investment at that point as told to shareholders by the then Board on the night. Had Bottomley persisted he would have been heavily beaten in the vote by shareholders.

(3) 20 minutes later in another EGM the former CEO David Bottomley is voted off the Board for good. Shareholders vote 60% to remove him - meaning that the big shareholders either removed him OR didn't want him to stay.

(4) On 28 June 2021 the former CEO David Bottomley leave the club via "mutual consent". In the football world we know what that "mutual consent" means "SACKED"

(5) Alexander Jarvis turns up in July 2021 with Curran at the Ground in early July and they meet with the Trust and the club.

The Trust published an article here:
https://www.daletrust.co.uk/2021/07/trust-statement-andy-curran-and-darrell-rose

The Trust say that the EFL made them change a statement they made on Curran and Rose buying shares.

(6) Alexander Jarvis tells a private investigator that the takeover is on.
The private investigator then sticks that on this forum:

https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/rochdale/forum/275265/alexander-jarvis-em

Alexander Jarvis sends to the private investigator a PowerPoint presentation that has David Bottomley's signoff on it!!

This links Southall, Jarvis, Bottomley, Curran and Rose AFTER the 1 June AGM because the Powerpoint is sent to Jarvis by Bottomley afer that and Bottomley has been removed as a Director from that point.

(7) On 29th July the EFL hold a meeting where Andrew Curran uses the term "Nancy Boys". This is witnessed by the EFL, the solicitors acting for Curran and Jarvis and the club.

The club make a complaint and Curran is charged and later found guilty of making a homophobic comment. Curran is banned from football for 63 days.

(8) On 5th August 2021, Jarvis tells the Daily Telegraph its a hostile takeover and links Curran (by introducing him to the journalist) and the takeover (so to Bottomley and the Powerpoint Presentation). The Telegraph reported as follows:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2021/08/05/efl-investigating-homophobic-slu

Curran did not respond to requests for comment after the claims against him were put to him via text message.

That followed a bizarre phone call with Telegraph Sport in which he said he had “nothing to do with Rochdale”.

The call nevertheless prompted a WhatsApp message from Alexander Jarvis, who described himself as an adviser to what he admitted was a “hostile takeover” and said that Curran was “a bit of a recluse”.

Jarvis said he himself had been on the “heated” Zoom call and that he could not recall the alleged comments being made by Curran, adding: “I don’t think, if he did say it, that he meant it in the way that it would be perceived.”

Jarvis said he was “waiting for a call from the FA” about Rochdale’s complaint, which could see it take action if Curran was deemed a participant in football.


(9) On 16th August 2021, the EFL charged "multiple individuals" with breaches of rules. Morton House refuse to cooperate.

https://www.efl.com/news/2021/august/efl-statement-rochdale-afc2/

(10) On 1st October, Dale Trust report a meeting with Matthew Southall:
https://www.daletrust.co.uk/2021/10/10010/

Southall began by stating that he was contacted by Alexander Jarvis on behalf of Morton House with a view to a purchase of the shares. He said that he had known Jarvis for a few years and the pair had worked together before including at Charlton. Jarvis had told him that he had a deal that had “gone wrong” that might be of interest Southall.

This links Southall to Jarvis and thus to Curran and Rose.

(11) On 3rd October is was reported that non-shareholder Matthew Southall wrote to the club telling them to cancel a legally arranged EGM.

https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/rochdale/forum/277292/non-shareholder-tri

This links Matthew Southall to Morton House.

(12) In January 2022, Morton House have launched a petition for unfair prejudice and the EFL now see that volunteers have to raise £130,000 for something that they could have dealt with in August.

"The Dale Supporters Trust and 8 members of the board of RAFC are facing a High Court legal action brought by a company named Morton House MGT and First Form Construction Ltd (‘Morton House’). It is alleged by Morton House that the Dale Trust and the board have unlawfully caused prejudice to Morton House as a shareholder in RAFC; something which the Dale Trust and the board strenuously deny.

Owing to this being a dispute between shareholders, the litigation cannot be funded by RAFC itself which means that the Dale Trust (a not-for-profit organisation) and the RAFC board (all of whom are unpaid for their work at RAFC) must bear the cost of defending what is often a notoriously expensive legal claim."

WHO DO THE EFL NEED TO CHARGE (in my opinion)?

David Bottomley
Alexander Jarvis
Andrew Curran
Darrell Rose
Denise Valarie Courtnell - as statutory director and owner of Morton House in July 2021
Faical Safounae - as statutory director and owner of Morton House in July 2021
Matthew Francis Southall

We can see it. The timeline and evidence proves it.

The world can see it

So WHY the f*ck can the EFL (a) not see it and (b) do something about it?


The case for the prosecution rests.


Brilliant summary!

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MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 16:23 - Feb 5 with 4945 viewsRAFCBLUE

MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 12:47 - Feb 5 by TomRAFC

Brilliant summary!


In legal circles they are known as a "facts"

Fact (noun): a thing that is known or proved to be true.

The EFL can choose to dress this 8 month farce up all they like.

David Bottomley tried (and failed) to dupe supporters and dress this takeover farce up all he liked between March 2021 and 1 June 2021 when shareholders saw through it and removed him. 60% of votes cast voted for him to be removed.

Andrew Curran, Darrell Rose and Alexander Jarvis came and pretended to engage in the farce and then, when the EFL used the phrase "disciplinary investigations" ran away faster than Usain Bolt in a 100 metres final.

Matthew Southall has now taken on the baton of farce dresser upper and can try to dress up this farce all he likes.

According to reliable public sources, Southall HAS ALREADY BOUGHT 25% of the club from Andrew Curran and Darrell Rose on 29 September 2021 as written in the Manchester Evening News:

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/ex-charlton

Mr Southall is acquiring his shares from Andy Curran and Darrel Rose's Morton House MGT group, whose bid to take over the club collapsed several weeks ago.

The M.E.N. understands that Mr Southall was approached by an intermediary on behalf of Morton House, who were looking to off-load the 42 per cent of shares in Rochdale acquired when the group was attempting to take control of the Crown Oil Arena club.

Mr Southall left the London club last year in controversial circumstances and now lives in Dubai but also has a home in Worsley and a wife who attended Bury Grammar School.


I hope he told the EFL in September 2021 he did that or else that's a second time the EFL rules have been broken.

So for me the EFL can ponder, dither and delay all they like but the prosecution timeline of evidence for the EFL's case has been established:

(1) Bottomley, Curran, Jarvis and Southall all seen Rochdale on 29th April 2021 by Fat Pat and multiple witnesses.

(2) The Board present Martin Halsall to the Dale Trust but Martin Halsall withdraws

(3) A hostile takeover was attempted after Bottomley left the club on 28 June 2021 by Morton House, Andrew Curran, Darrell Rose and Alexander Jarvis. This was reported in the Daily Telegraph on 5th August 2021 by reporter Ben Rumsby. Jarvis outs Curran to a national broadsheet newspaper.

(4) The EFL have charged various parties for breaking the rules on 16th August 2021. Their investigation is now into its 8th month.

(5) Southall's PR announced in the MEN that he's bought 25% of the club on 29 September 2021 - whilst a LIVE EFL INVESTIGATION IS ONGOING.

(6) Southall tells the Dale Trust - AFTER buying shares - on 1 October 2021:

"Southall said that the deal was purely as an investment, and nothing more than that, adding that he had no intentions of taking over.

He stated that there were no disqualifying circumstances that prevented him being an owner or director in terms of the EFL, but it wasn’t his intention to bring anything to the club or even sit on the Board. He didn’t want to be walking into a hostile atmosphere, and in fact he didn’t want to be attending games, just watching them on a stream from afar."


https://www.daletrust.co.uk/2021/10/10010/

Note the use by Southall of the past tense in that sentence. "The deal was" confirming that it had happened. Southall HAS bought from Morton House.

(7) Southall then threatens the club with High Court action in early October 2021 - but doesn't follow through.

(8) Southall doesn't show though at an October EGM held at Spotland - wholly inconsistent with a position of being an actual shareholder but nevertheless if what the MEN says on 29 September 2021 he could have attended. Southall has never attended Spotland.

(9) Morton House take High Court action against The Dale Supporters Trust and 8 members of the board of RAFC brought by a company named Morton House MGT and First Form Construction Ltd (‘Morton House’) in January 2022. These unpaid volunteers are now raising £130,000 to fight the cause in the High Court.

Isn't it funny that Matthew Southall was seen with Curran and Jarvis and David Bottomley at Rochdale in April 2021 and now is writing to the Dale Trust in February 2022?

Isn't it funny that Matthew Southall is noted in the Manchester Evening News in September 2021 as having bought 25% of the club but has NEVER been to a game before or since and told the Dale Trust that he "in fact he didn’t want to be attending games, just watching them on a stream from afar."

Odd as his home is 15 miles from the Crown Oil Arena.

He said himself to the Dale Trust that this was an "investment".

Isn't it funny that Matthew Southall appears to be a common theme in this saga for nearly 12 months?

We have now reached the stage where he EFL are having the p*ss taken by people who want to hide in the shadows.

Morton House actually told the EFL in August 2021 (as noted in an EFL statement) that they won't be bothering to co-operate with this investigation - a sure sign that the EFL will likely find all of their rules, policies and procedures breached. In January 2022 Morton House launched High Court action against the Dale Trust and an army of volunteers.

The Manchester Evening News is certain to put into print that Southall owns 25% of Rochdale Football Club. If so, I hope that proof has been provided to the relevant authorities including HM Revenue and Customs and the EFL.

The EFL must have been told by Morton House that they were going to sue the Dale Trust and 8 directors right?

Actually - they haven't.

If all of the emails, telephone records, CCTV, letters and associated documents are all put on the table then its going to be a very fast judgement from the EFL.

So here's what supporters say to the EFL:

GET OFF THE FENCE AND FOLLOW YOUR OWN RULES.
YOU HAVE DITHERED AND DELAYED LONG ENOUGH.

George Bernard Shaw had it right: "He who can does; he who cannot, teaches." https://www.visittheusa.co.uk/
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MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 16:51 - Feb 5 with 4855 viewsTomRAFC

MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 16:23 - Feb 5 by RAFCBLUE

In legal circles they are known as a "facts"

Fact (noun): a thing that is known or proved to be true.

The EFL can choose to dress this 8 month farce up all they like.

David Bottomley tried (and failed) to dupe supporters and dress this takeover farce up all he liked between March 2021 and 1 June 2021 when shareholders saw through it and removed him. 60% of votes cast voted for him to be removed.

Andrew Curran, Darrell Rose and Alexander Jarvis came and pretended to engage in the farce and then, when the EFL used the phrase "disciplinary investigations" ran away faster than Usain Bolt in a 100 metres final.

Matthew Southall has now taken on the baton of farce dresser upper and can try to dress up this farce all he likes.

According to reliable public sources, Southall HAS ALREADY BOUGHT 25% of the club from Andrew Curran and Darrell Rose on 29 September 2021 as written in the Manchester Evening News:

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/ex-charlton

Mr Southall is acquiring his shares from Andy Curran and Darrel Rose's Morton House MGT group, whose bid to take over the club collapsed several weeks ago.

The M.E.N. understands that Mr Southall was approached by an intermediary on behalf of Morton House, who were looking to off-load the 42 per cent of shares in Rochdale acquired when the group was attempting to take control of the Crown Oil Arena club.

Mr Southall left the London club last year in controversial circumstances and now lives in Dubai but also has a home in Worsley and a wife who attended Bury Grammar School.


I hope he told the EFL in September 2021 he did that or else that's a second time the EFL rules have been broken.

So for me the EFL can ponder, dither and delay all they like but the prosecution timeline of evidence for the EFL's case has been established:

(1) Bottomley, Curran, Jarvis and Southall all seen Rochdale on 29th April 2021 by Fat Pat and multiple witnesses.

(2) The Board present Martin Halsall to the Dale Trust but Martin Halsall withdraws

(3) A hostile takeover was attempted after Bottomley left the club on 28 June 2021 by Morton House, Andrew Curran, Darrell Rose and Alexander Jarvis. This was reported in the Daily Telegraph on 5th August 2021 by reporter Ben Rumsby. Jarvis outs Curran to a national broadsheet newspaper.

(4) The EFL have charged various parties for breaking the rules on 16th August 2021. Their investigation is now into its 8th month.

(5) Southall's PR announced in the MEN that he's bought 25% of the club on 29 September 2021 - whilst a LIVE EFL INVESTIGATION IS ONGOING.

(6) Southall tells the Dale Trust - AFTER buying shares - on 1 October 2021:

"Southall said that the deal was purely as an investment, and nothing more than that, adding that he had no intentions of taking over.

He stated that there were no disqualifying circumstances that prevented him being an owner or director in terms of the EFL, but it wasn’t his intention to bring anything to the club or even sit on the Board. He didn’t want to be walking into a hostile atmosphere, and in fact he didn’t want to be attending games, just watching them on a stream from afar."


https://www.daletrust.co.uk/2021/10/10010/

Note the use by Southall of the past tense in that sentence. "The deal was" confirming that it had happened. Southall HAS bought from Morton House.

(7) Southall then threatens the club with High Court action in early October 2021 - but doesn't follow through.

(8) Southall doesn't show though at an October EGM held at Spotland - wholly inconsistent with a position of being an actual shareholder but nevertheless if what the MEN says on 29 September 2021 he could have attended. Southall has never attended Spotland.

(9) Morton House take High Court action against The Dale Supporters Trust and 8 members of the board of RAFC brought by a company named Morton House MGT and First Form Construction Ltd (‘Morton House’) in January 2022. These unpaid volunteers are now raising £130,000 to fight the cause in the High Court.

Isn't it funny that Matthew Southall was seen with Curran and Jarvis and David Bottomley at Rochdale in April 2021 and now is writing to the Dale Trust in February 2022?

Isn't it funny that Matthew Southall is noted in the Manchester Evening News in September 2021 as having bought 25% of the club but has NEVER been to a game before or since and told the Dale Trust that he "in fact he didn’t want to be attending games, just watching them on a stream from afar."

Odd as his home is 15 miles from the Crown Oil Arena.

He said himself to the Dale Trust that this was an "investment".

Isn't it funny that Matthew Southall appears to be a common theme in this saga for nearly 12 months?

We have now reached the stage where he EFL are having the p*ss taken by people who want to hide in the shadows.

Morton House actually told the EFL in August 2021 (as noted in an EFL statement) that they won't be bothering to co-operate with this investigation - a sure sign that the EFL will likely find all of their rules, policies and procedures breached. In January 2022 Morton House launched High Court action against the Dale Trust and an army of volunteers.

The Manchester Evening News is certain to put into print that Southall owns 25% of Rochdale Football Club. If so, I hope that proof has been provided to the relevant authorities including HM Revenue and Customs and the EFL.

The EFL must have been told by Morton House that they were going to sue the Dale Trust and 8 directors right?

Actually - they haven't.

If all of the emails, telephone records, CCTV, letters and associated documents are all put on the table then its going to be a very fast judgement from the EFL.

So here's what supporters say to the EFL:

GET OFF THE FENCE AND FOLLOW YOUR OWN RULES.
YOU HAVE DITHERED AND DELAYED LONG ENOUGH.


Excellent summary of the facts.

Strange behaviour from people who, last I heard, haven't had any shares transferred to them.

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MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 20:01 - Feb 5 with 4703 viewsRAFCBLUE

MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 16:51 - Feb 5 by TomRAFC

Excellent summary of the facts.

Strange behaviour from people who, last I heard, haven't had any shares transferred to them.


The truth of the matter is that Matthew Southall will soon have to "sh*t or get off the pot"

Matthew Southall is completely fair game given that his outward public position throughout and also the position of the EFL (to date) is that Matthew Southall is nothing whatsoever to do with Morton House.

Southall is not a statutory director of Morton House or a shareholder of Morton House.

He is simply a member of the public as he outlined to the Dale Trust in October 2021:

https://www.daletrust.co.uk/2021/10/10010/

Morton House are, as of right now, subject to an EFL investigation which started on 16th August 2021 and which the EFL said they were refusing to co-operate with. The investigation continues and is in its 8th month.

https://www.efl.com/news/2021/august/efl-statement-rochdale-afc2/

On 24th August 2021, after the EFL had set their investigation sail, Morton House made wholesale changes to the directors and owners of Morton House backdated to prior of their involvement post July 2021 with the EFL.

Those changes are publicly available here:
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/03779852/fili

Now, I'm one of life natural sceptics. I don't believe in coincidences.

Why would Matthew Southall be at Rochdale (not Dubai) in April 2021 with Bottomley, Curran and Jarvis for a look around an about to be relegated club when he had bragged to the Trust:

"He said that he had known Jarvis for a few years and the pair had worked together before including at Charlton. Jarvis had told him that he had a deal that had “gone wrong” that might be of interest Southall."

Let's just think about that:

2020: Jarvis at Charlton - Southall at Charlton.
https://thecharltondossier.com/

2021: Jarvis at Rochdale - Southall at Rochdale.

"Gone wrong" is, as we know, the code that this takeover was not waved through by shareholders at an EGM in June 2021 where a CEO paid for that arrogance immediately with termination of his directorship.

Bottomley faced with crushing defeat and humiliation removed his motions on investment. The Trust did not baulk at seeing their motion voted on.

Post 1st June, Bottomley had no directorship and by the end of June, no job.

Yet, it is well publicised, that Southall has some previous convictions for unlawful behaviour.

Behaviour that had Southall been named under Bottomley's presentations to shareholders would have rang some massive alarm bells and meant that the race would never have been started.

You can only therefore conclude that Southall was NEVER Bottomley's preferred bidder.

The preferred bidder was Martin Halsall who the Trust were asked to meet as they disclosed here:

https://www.daletrust.co.uk/2021/10/trust-response-to-bbc-article/

"We met had one meeting with Martin Halsall, and a second meeting with his partner Ian Bridge. Following the signing of an NDA at that second meeting, we had a further meeting cancelled at two hours’ notice, and three subsequent requests for a meeting were ignored. We had made it clear to Halsall from day one that we would have issues with anything that put the ownership of the ground at risk, but Halsall had never stated any views to us that a charge was to be put on the ground. It is our belief that Halsall withdrew his interest rather than respond to requests from others to explain his funding of the Club."

Those being the facts, the question for the EFL is WHO did what and when and were any of the EFL rules broken?

The answers appear to be:

(1) WHO: Bottomley, Curran, Southall, Rose, Jarvis and "Morton House"
(2) WHAT: The acquiring of Control of the Club, and a number of individuals became Relevant Persons without the prior consent of the EFL in accordance with the Owners’ and Directors’ Test (OADT).
(3) WHEN: July 2021
(4) YES, the EFL's RULES WERE COMPLETELY BROKEN

Perhaps the EFL will need to be threatened with legal action like our Trust and unpaid volunteer directors. Perhaps if they were they too would also "sh*t or get off the pot"

George Bernard Shaw had it right: "He who can does; he who cannot, teaches." https://www.visittheusa.co.uk/
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MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 23:14 - Mar 10 with 4183 viewsRAFCBLUE

60 days since the OP.

The EFL are still on the fence.

George Bernard Shaw had it right: "He who can does; he who cannot, teaches." https://www.visittheusa.co.uk/
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MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 09:09 - Mar 11 with 4001 viewsDale_4_Life

MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 23:14 - Mar 10 by RAFCBLUE

60 days since the OP.

The EFL are still on the fence.


They really are a disgrace.

What are they waiting for?
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MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 10:12 - Mar 11 with 3924 viewsDaleiLama

MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 23:14 - Mar 10 by RAFCBLUE

60 days since the OP.

The EFL are still on the fence.


I used the EFL survey and the text spaces it contained to make my feelings very clear on this. I'd love to be a fly on the wall when they try to pigeon hole some of those comments into a survey which seems to be designed to produce data for a report patting themselves on the back for all they are doing for football. I drew particular attention to the "support from the 92" campaign we have had and the many comments there and elsewhere on how much of a toothless laughing-stock the EFL is perceived to be. Now there's a topic for a survey!

Up the Dale - NOT for sale!
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MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 11:15 - Mar 11 with 3824 viewssamueloneils

Why does the Contingent Liabilities (Note 13) in the accounts state "a series of events which has led to legal action being taken against the Company".

In the Board statements reference was made to action being taken against Board Members and the Trust- not the Company (ie Rochdale AFC) which is a seperate legal entity.

Do the directors have an indemnity? On taking office?
Have I missed a development along the line?

The outcome of the case would then have added significance..
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MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 12:17 - Mar 11 with 3710 viewsjudd

MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 11:15 - Mar 11 by samueloneils

Why does the Contingent Liabilities (Note 13) in the accounts state "a series of events which has led to legal action being taken against the Company".

In the Board statements reference was made to action being taken against Board Members and the Trust- not the Company (ie Rochdale AFC) which is a seperate legal entity.

Do the directors have an indemnity? On taking office?
Have I missed a development along the line?

The outcome of the case would then have added significance..


8 Directors, the Supporters Trust and the Football Club are all named in the petition.

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MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 21:19 - Aug 26 with 3051 viewsRAFCBLUE

MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 12:17 - Mar 11 by judd

8 Directors, the Supporters Trust and the Football Club are all named in the petition.


376 days and counting.

With today's statement, it is very clear that the Board of Directors have solved a massive headache for the EFL.

You do have to wonder how much longer it will take for the EFL to tell us what really happened regarding these "multiple individuals" none of who are current Directors or employees of the club.

Maybe the EFL need a bit of a rallying cry from Delia?

George Bernard Shaw had it right: "He who can does; he who cannot, teaches." https://www.visittheusa.co.uk/
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MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 10:14 - Oct 8 with 2634 viewsRAFCBLUE

MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 21:19 - Aug 26 by RAFCBLUE

376 days and counting.

With today's statement, it is very clear that the Board of Directors have solved a massive headache for the EFL.

You do have to wonder how much longer it will take for the EFL to tell us what really happened regarding these "multiple individuals" none of who are current Directors or employees of the club.

Maybe the EFL need a bit of a rallying cry from Delia?


419 days and counting and still not a peep from the supposed regulator of the game outside of the Premier League into events of 2021.

What can be taking so long?

We should have a bet amongst ourselves which will happen next:

Option 1: The EFL openly report their investigation findings once concluded.
Option 2: Morton House is voluntarily liquidated at Companies House

You would think that the EFL would want this saga all out in the open for the good of the game - including any learning that could be shared to improve the game - given they said back in August 2021:

https://www.efl.com/news/2021/august/efl-statement-rochdale-afc2/

“ More importantly, the EFL will continue to work with Rochdale AFC as we collectively seek to ensure a successful and sustainable long-term future for the Club and all those associated with it, particularly its players, staff, and supporters.”

With the government looking at the future of the game and who independently regulates the “successful and sustainable future” promised by the EFL can only happen when they choose to eventually report.

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MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 10:50 - Oct 8 with 2575 viewsSandyman

MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 10:14 - Oct 8 by RAFCBLUE

419 days and counting and still not a peep from the supposed regulator of the game outside of the Premier League into events of 2021.

What can be taking so long?

We should have a bet amongst ourselves which will happen next:

Option 1: The EFL openly report their investigation findings once concluded.
Option 2: Morton House is voluntarily liquidated at Companies House

You would think that the EFL would want this saga all out in the open for the good of the game - including any learning that could be shared to improve the game - given they said back in August 2021:

https://www.efl.com/news/2021/august/efl-statement-rochdale-afc2/

“ More importantly, the EFL will continue to work with Rochdale AFC as we collectively seek to ensure a successful and sustainable long-term future for the Club and all those associated with it, particularly its players, staff, and supporters.”

With the government looking at the future of the game and who independently regulates the “successful and sustainable future” promised by the EFL can only happen when they choose to eventually report.


Option 3: EFL do nothing. Usual procedure when they are required to make a decision.
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MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 12:19 - Oct 8 with 2441 viewselectricblue

MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 10:50 - Oct 8 by Sandyman

Option 3: EFL do nothing. Usual procedure when they are required to make a decision.


I reckon at the end of the season a 6pt deduction and a £20k fine suspended....

My all time favourite Dale player Mr Lyndon Symmonds

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MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 14:00 - Oct 8 with 2306 viewsDorkingDale

MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 12:19 - Oct 8 by electricblue

I reckon at the end of the season a 6pt deduction and a £20k fine suspended....


God forbid a points deduction.....we might just as well pack up L2 now.
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MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 15:21 - Oct 8 with 2177 viewsDaleiLama

MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 12:19 - Oct 8 by electricblue

I reckon at the end of the season a 6pt deduction and a £20k fine suspended....


Is that based on some sort of precedent?

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MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 15:26 - Oct 8 with 2156 views442Dale

MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 15:21 - Oct 8 by DaleiLama

Is that based on some sort of precedent?


Looking at it, Reagan would make sense.

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MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 16:08 - Oct 8 with 2045 viewselectricblue

MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 15:21 - Oct 8 by DaleiLama

Is that based on some sort of precedent?


No not really.
I just think that the EFL will look too be doing something without actually punishing the club.....

My all time favourite Dale player Mr Lyndon Symmonds

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MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 17:52 - Oct 8 with 1915 views49thseason

The lack of activity from the EFL is deafening... I wonder if they feel as though they need to wait until there is an outcome from the possible actions against Bottomley. If he was knowingly breaking the rules and the subsequent dismissal and a new board appointed, it may seen as the Club taking sufficient action to put the situation right and therefore no further action will be taken against the Club
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MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 18:21 - Oct 8 with 1857 viewswozzrafc

MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 17:52 - Oct 8 by 49thseason

The lack of activity from the EFL is deafening... I wonder if they feel as though they need to wait until there is an outcome from the possible actions against Bottomley. If he was knowingly breaking the rules and the subsequent dismissal and a new board appointed, it may seen as the Club taking sufficient action to put the situation right and therefore no further action will be taken against the Club


Could their investigations found evidence that needs to be passed to other authorities ?
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MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 21:30 - Oct 8 with 1609 viewsTVOS1907

MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 12:19 - Oct 8 by electricblue

I reckon at the end of the season a 6pt deduction and a £20k fine suspended....


Keep trying...

You mean you STILL haven't worked out why some posts get down-ticked?

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MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 12:34 - Oct 9 with 1292 viewsDorkingDale

MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 18:21 - Oct 8 by wozzrafc

Could their investigations found evidence that needs to be passed to other authorities ?


That's what I think/hope. Do we know if Curran is still hiding in Dubai?
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MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 12:42 - Oct 9 with 1282 viewsHullDale

MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 18:21 - Oct 8 by wozzrafc

Could their investigations found evidence that needs to be passed to other authorities ?


I'm beginning to wonder if the mountains of evidence the club is rumoured to have supplied to the EFL exposes failings / loopholes / weaknesses in the EFL policies and administration, and they are closing them off before going public with their findings.
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MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 13:03 - Oct 9 with 1232 viewsD_Alien

MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 12:42 - Oct 9 by HullDale

I'm beginning to wonder if the mountains of evidence the club is rumoured to have supplied to the EFL exposes failings / loopholes / weaknesses in the EFL policies and administration, and they are closing them off before going public with their findings.


It could be even worse than that

Bottomley doing his usual thing and seeking to cosy up to the EFL during his time at Dale with an eye on the main chance might have implications that involve members of the EFL itself. That's what he does, his employment history is there for all to see. Members of the EFL wouldn't necessarily be aware of that, and may have been taken in by him. We may never see a smoking gun, but the unconscionable delays appear to be hiding some kind of inner turmoil by the EFL

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MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 13:09 - Oct 9 with 1221 viewsjudd

MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 13:03 - Oct 9 by D_Alien

It could be even worse than that

Bottomley doing his usual thing and seeking to cosy up to the EFL during his time at Dale with an eye on the main chance might have implications that involve members of the EFL itself. That's what he does, his employment history is there for all to see. Members of the EFL wouldn't necessarily be aware of that, and may have been taken in by him. We may never see a smoking gun, but the unconscionable delays appear to be hiding some kind of inner turmoil by the EFL

[Post edited 9 Oct 2022 13:07]


Perhaps he has given them a law of the land patronising lecture.





If only, the useless tvvat.

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MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 13:12 - Oct 9 with 1218 viewsD_Alien

MORTON HOUSE / Why the EFL MUST get off the fence soon... on 13:09 - Oct 9 by judd

Perhaps he has given them a law of the land patronising lecture.





If only, the useless tvvat.


It'd depend where he gave it them, too

He was big on 'hospitality'

And who knows what might've been discussed over dinner and a bottle of Pol Roger?

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