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Roque Mesa 14:43 - May 11 with 4838 viewsswanseajack97

Just want to remind you all that we sold one of our only passionate players who actually cared abut the results to some Spanish super giants.

Imagine being in a relegation fight and loaning one of our only players who gave a dam to champions league football.

But of course with the clueless choices being made, we were left with Carrol, Clucas, Sanches, Andy King and Ki in midfield making it by far the worst midfield in the premier league this season. Why we thought loaning Mesa out to a bigger club after starting to make a impact I will never understand...
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Roque Mesa on 14:47 - May 11 with 3602 viewsCaptain_Sham

Sold?
Hes played 4 times by the way.
[Post edited 11 May 2018 14:48]

Its just a ride.

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Roque Mesa on 14:49 - May 11 with 3577 viewsswanseajack97

Roque Mesa on 14:47 - May 11 by Captain_Sham

Sold?
Hes played 4 times by the way.
[Post edited 11 May 2018 14:48]


Meant *loan my bad, I did say loaning out later on though
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Roque Mesa on 14:51 - May 11 with 3543 views34dfgdf54

He was obviously a bad signing, but there is no way on gods earth am I having that the likes of Andy King and Tom Carroll, the latter being arguably the worst midfield player in the premier league in my opinion could be better than him.
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Roque Mesa on 14:52 - May 11 with 3528 viewsswancity

Passionate possibly although that's in doubt .Just not very good.

Only an idiot would eat a turkey curry on Christmas day

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Roque Mesa on 14:53 - May 11 with 3518 viewsCaptain_Sham

Roque Mesa on 14:51 - May 11 by 34dfgdf54

He was obviously a bad signing, but there is no way on gods earth am I having that the likes of Andy King and Tom Carroll, the latter being arguably the worst midfield player in the premier league in my opinion could be better than him.


Mesa would have been a great signing 3 years ago when we played , you know, football.

Its just a ride.

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Roque Mesa on 14:53 - May 11 with 3508 views34dfgdf54

Roque Mesa on 14:53 - May 11 by Captain_Sham

Mesa would have been a great signing 3 years ago when we played , you know, football.


Correct!
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Roque Mesa on 14:56 - May 11 with 3485 viewsswancity

Roque Mesa on 14:53 - May 11 by Captain_Sham

Mesa would have been a great signing 3 years ago when we played , you know, football.


Apart from he's not good enough

Only an idiot would eat a turkey curry on Christmas day

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Roque Mesa on 14:56 - May 11 with 3485 viewsswanseajack97

Roque Mesa on 14:53 - May 11 by Captain_Sham

Mesa would have been a great signing 3 years ago when we played , you know, football.


Spot on. I was exited to hear him joining last summer especially seeing his stats of making the most passes last season in la liga with a small club.
and just when I thought that this could be a return to the Swansea way clement just through him under the bus.
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Roque Mesa on 14:57 - May 11 with 3479 viewsswanseajack97

Roque Mesa on 14:56 - May 11 by swancity

Apart from he's not good enough


So Andy King and Carrol are better?...
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Roque Mesa on 14:57 - May 11 with 3478 views34dfgdf54

Roque Mesa on 14:56 - May 11 by swancity

Apart from he's not good enough


Leon’s back is he.

Congrats on your retirement fella.
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Roque Mesa on 14:57 - May 11 with 3472 viewsCaptain_Sham

Roque Mesa on 14:56 - May 11 by swancity

Apart from he's not good enough


In your opinion, which has zero value.

Its just a ride.

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Roque Mesa on 14:59 - May 11 with 3457 viewsPrivate_Partz

He has done a very nice tweet about Rangel. Dont know how to put it up on here though.

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Roque Mesa on 15:00 - May 11 with 3447 viewsJoe_bradshaw

Roque Mesa on 14:51 - May 11 by 34dfgdf54

He was obviously a bad signing, but there is no way on gods earth am I having that the likes of Andy King and Tom Carroll, the latter being arguably the worst midfield player in the premier league in my opinion could be better than him.


I actually thought for a few games last season that Carroll could make it. He now just makes me sad when I see him play another easily telegraphed pass to the opposition.

One of the most damning statistics of this season is that Tom Carroll has twice as many assists as any other of our players. That tells you all you need to know about our lack of creativity.

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Roque Mesa on 15:02 - May 11 with 3427 viewsswancity

Roque Mesa on 14:57 - May 11 by swanseajack97

So Andy King and Carrol are better?...


Different type of player. King is a reliable performer, never a match winner but does his job well. Carroll has had a poor season in a struggling team. Mesa on the other hand definitely has some ability but makes too many mistakes and lapses in concentration. He's therefore a liability.

Only an idiot would eat a turkey curry on Christmas day

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Roque Mesa on 15:04 - May 11 with 3406 views34dfgdf54

Roque Mesa on 15:02 - May 11 by swancity

Different type of player. King is a reliable performer, never a match winner but does his job well. Carroll has had a poor season in a struggling team. Mesa on the other hand definitely has some ability but makes too many mistakes and lapses in concentration. He's therefore a liability.


Well it’s worked out well without him hasn’t it.

We’ll never know now.
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Roque Mesa on 15:04 - May 11 with 3398 viewsswancity

Roque Mesa on 14:57 - May 11 by Captain_Sham

In your opinion, which has zero value.


IMO yes. As for zero value I find its best to respect views of others without having to agree.

Only an idiot would eat a turkey curry on Christmas day

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Roque Mesa on 15:05 - May 11 with 3393 viewsLegend83

Roque Mesa on 15:02 - May 11 by swancity

Different type of player. King is a reliable performer, never a match winner but does his job well. Carroll has had a poor season in a struggling team. Mesa on the other hand definitely has some ability but makes too many mistakes and lapses in concentration. He's therefore a liability.


King wasn't reliable against Chelsea when he failed to trap a pass from Mawson (the pass wasn't great to be fair) then couldn't be arsed to track Fabregas who went and scored from his mistake.

You know, the exact same sort of thing Mesa did against Watford and was consigned to the scrap heap for.

At least Mesa always seemed to get his head up and look to move the ball forward.
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Roque Mesa on 15:11 - May 11 with 3331 viewsswancity

Roque Mesa on 15:05 - May 11 by Legend83

King wasn't reliable against Chelsea when he failed to trap a pass from Mawson (the pass wasn't great to be fair) then couldn't be arsed to track Fabregas who went and scored from his mistake.

You know, the exact same sort of thing Mesa did against Watford and was consigned to the scrap heap for.

At least Mesa always seemed to get his head up and look to move the ball forward.


All players make mistakes. Some more than others. Mesa makes far too many and for that reason he's not up to it at this level. The Championship may be a different matter for him though.

Only an idiot would eat a turkey curry on Christmas day

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Roque Mesa on 15:14 - May 11 with 3313 viewsTheKirkyLife

I was a real fan of Mesa. He made mistakes but of course you would when the manager shows zero faith in you and doesn't know how to create a setup that will suit him.

If we are lucky enough to keep him in the Championship I think he should be the guy we look to recreate Swansea around. I still rate him, I still think it was a ridiculous decision to send him out on loan.
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Roque Mesa on 15:20 - May 11 with 3293 viewsSwan91

if we are actually going to go back to the old way to play... like what has been said in reports and media... then he will be important for us next season if he stays!!
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Roque Mesa on 15:21 - May 11 with 3286 views34dfgdf54

Roque Mesa on 15:14 - May 11 by TheKirkyLife

I was a real fan of Mesa. He made mistakes but of course you would when the manager shows zero faith in you and doesn't know how to create a setup that will suit him.

If we are lucky enough to keep him in the Championship I think he should be the guy we look to recreate Swansea around. I still rate him, I still think it was a ridiculous decision to send him out on loan.


Agree with what you’re saying, but there’s no chance he will be here next year.
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Roque Mesa on 16:32 - May 11 with 3087 viewsmajorraglan

Roque Mesa on 15:21 - May 11 by 34dfgdf54

Agree with what you’re saying, but there’s no chance he will be here next year.


I think that may depend on who the next manager is. I would at least like the next manager to have a look at Kesa and Baston before they are shipped out. He may be able to integrate them in to his team.
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Roque Mesa on 16:38 - May 11 with 3035 views34dfgdf54

Roque Mesa on 16:32 - May 11 by majorraglan

I think that may depend on who the next manager is. I would at least like the next manager to have a look at Kesa and Baston before they are shipped out. He may be able to integrate them in to his team.


Didn’t he say he wished he never came here in first place? I may be wrong but I’m sure I read it somewhere
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Roque Mesa on 16:43 - May 11 with 2996 viewsmax936

Nobody has mentioned young Fulton who had done a reasonable job each time he played, we should have kept that lad here, IMO.

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Roque Mesa on 16:55 - May 11 with 2923 viewsjasper_T

I gave Mesa the benefit of the doubt for a good while but he made far too many mistakes too often to deserve a regular place. Thought Clement & Makelele were being harsh at first but then it kept happening, and he wasn't doing enough in other areas for the risk to be worth it.
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