| Chris Beech 11:57 - Nov 26 with 5294 views | jacko_dale |
New head coach at Carlisle. Didn't see that one coming! |  | | |  |
| Chris Beech on 12:01 - Nov 26 with 5281 views | DareToCalvin |
Good luck to him, can't see him being a good manager but a better coach but hope he does well; was a superb servant for us. |  | | |
| Chris Beech on 12:45 - Nov 26 with 5141 views | boromat |
I can see why they feel like that. He struggled when given the job temporarily here but that had a lot to do with the players given to him. His signings in that January on paper sounded great but they just didn't pay off. I feel like he probably struggled to move from coach to manager within the same squad. Maybe coming in fresh to the club will give him a better grounding to build on and get his managerial career started. All the best to him, he's loyal and has been kept around by quite a few managers that have come and gone so is obviously highly thought of. | |
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| Chris Beech on 12:52 - Nov 26 with 5120 views | griff |
As an Carlisle fan I’m underwhelmed. He’s inherited mainly dross at our spot and you know what they say, you can’t polish a turd. Oh, also we’re skint. The National League looms. |  | | |
| Chris Beech on 13:05 - Nov 26 with 5080 views | Ancoats_Blue |
Timely, I was wondering where he'd ended up after Hill hooked back up with Flickers.
Didn't really get a proper run as #1 here in his caretaker spell so it'll be interesting to see how this pans out. Good luck to him though, always came across well. |  | | |
| Chris Beech on 13:06 - Nov 26 with 5071 views | davidab2202 |
| Chris Beech on 12:52 - Nov 26 by griff |
As an Carlisle fan I’m underwhelmed. He’s inherited mainly dross at our spot and you know what they say, you can’t polish a turd. Oh, also we’re skint. The National League looms. |
Sounds about as positive as many of us Dale fans feel at the moment. | | | |
| Chris Beech on 17:32 - Nov 26 with 4857 views | YouTubeDale |
It's OK, apparently he single handidly made Rochdale £25 million in transfer fees according to the article on the official site and then replaced the players that had been sold under the budget, even though he wasn't actually the manager.....
The above copied from the Carlisle Forum....what, £25M. !!!!!!!
Where’s that sofa, that money must be somewhere... |  |
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| Chris Beech on 18:36 - Nov 26 with 4731 views | griff |
I wouldn’t believe a word that comes out of the official side of our Club. It’s all designed to justify their decision to appoint a new Manager with no previous track record at keeping Clubs from going down the drain. Smoke and mirrors, and I expect that Beech will be cheap, another of their requirements as we’re skint. | | | |
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| Chris Beech on 18:57 - Nov 26 with 4676 views | blackdogblue |
| Chris Beech on 17:32 - Nov 26 by YouTubeDale |
It's OK, apparently he single handidly made Rochdale £25 million in transfer fees according to the article on the official site and then replaced the players that had been sold under the budget, even though he wasn't actually the manager.....
The above copied from the Carlisle Forum....what, £25M. !!!!!!!
Where’s that sofa, that money must be somewhere... |
Kim Jung Hills Bonus payment probably..
On Chris, really nice guy on the occasions I met him, it’s the same as BBM, they need a chance in the big chair like Captain of the Enterprise, they will either do well with the money / team they have or the Klingons will destroy them 😀
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| Chris Beech on 19:26 - Nov 26 with 4625 views | AtThePeake |
| Chris Beech on 17:32 - Nov 26 by YouTubeDale |
It's OK, apparently he single handidly made Rochdale £25 million in transfer fees according to the article on the official site and then replaced the players that had been sold under the budget, even though he wasn't actually the manager.....
The above copied from the Carlisle Forum....what, £25M. !!!!!!!
Where’s that sofa, that money must be somewhere... |
We need it to cover the lost gate money from the Bury game. |  |
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| Chris Beech on 20:12 - Nov 26 with 4532 views | Yorkshire_Dale |
Can we now assume that Dale have paid him off completely...or is he still on the payroll here under compensation?
The pair of them cost us a fortune....that we didn't have. | | | |
| Chris Beech on 20:33 - Nov 28 with 3977 views | Brierls |
| Chris Beech on 20:12 - Nov 26 by Yorkshire_Dale |
Can we now assume that Dale have paid him off completely...or is he still on the payroll here under compensation?
The pair of them cost us a fortune....that we didn't have. |
The pair of them cost us a fortune because they were entitled to the compensation.
For what it’s worth, Hilly was said to be very amenable with regard to payment terms to help the club, Beechy not so much.
I’m glad they’ve both found work elsewhere. It can’t be anything other than good news for Dale as far as the £££ are concerned.
I’m gobsmacked that Beechy has landed the Carlisle job. Fair play to him. [Post edited 28 Nov 2019 20:34]
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| Chris Beech on 20:37 - Nov 28 with 3960 views | 442Dale |
| Chris Beech on 20:33 - Nov 28 by Brierls |
The pair of them cost us a fortune because they were entitled to the compensation.
For what it’s worth, Hilly was said to be very amenable with regard to payment terms to help the club, Beechy not so much.
I’m glad they’ve both found work elsewhere. It can’t be anything other than good news for Dale as far as the £££ are concerned.
I’m gobsmacked that Beechy has landed the Carlisle job. Fair play to him. [Post edited 28 Nov 2019 20:34]
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Where was it disclosed how much it was and the situation around the payment terms? |  |
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| Chris Beech on 20:49 - Nov 28 with 3929 views | Brierls |
| Chris Beech on 20:37 - Nov 28 by 442Dale |
Where was it disclosed how much it was and the situation around the payment terms? |
It wasn’t. It may become clear on the next set of accounts.
I was quoting YD on the “fortune”. Given the length of the contracts, I think it’s fair to say the cost to the club was considerable.
The compensation terms was something that I heard. Nothing more, nothing less. I’m probably not the first person to mention it.
I didn’t think it was necessary to add disclaimers to a post. | | | |
| Chris Beech on 21:02 - Nov 28 with 3888 views | seasidedale |
Beech got paid full pay for 6 months and the use of his car, this stopped in August, know this as fact (family friend), don’t know if he got lump some as well but doubt it. hIll I suspect cost us a bit more | | | |
| Chris Beech on 21:11 - Nov 28 with 3848 views | TVOS1907 |
| Chris Beech on 20:49 - Nov 28 by Brierls |
It wasn’t. It may become clear on the next set of accounts.
I was quoting YD on the “fortune”. Given the length of the contracts, I think it’s fair to say the cost to the club was considerable.
The compensation terms was something that I heard. Nothing more, nothing less. I’m probably not the first person to mention it.
I didn’t think it was necessary to add disclaimers to a post. |
Nobody else has mentioned it, tbf. |  |
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| Chris Beech on 21:13 - Nov 28 with 3844 views | SuddenLad |
| Chris Beech on 21:02 - Nov 28 by seasidedale |
Beech got paid full pay for 6 months and the use of his car, this stopped in August, know this as fact (family friend), don’t know if he got lump some as well but doubt it. hIll I suspect cost us a bit more |
Exactly what I was told. Anyway, good luck to him. He must have impressed the Carlisle people, if not their fans. |  |
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| Chris Beech on 13:45 - Nov 29 with 3634 views | CockneyDale |
There's an interesting piece in The Athletic today by an anonymous club owner about what happens when a manager is sacked. It's apparently usual to pay people only up until they find a new job, no matter if there's years left on the deal and they find a job in 7/8 months, as Hill (roughly) did. So if this applies to Hill's contract too, then although it clearly cost us money, it may not have been as astronomical as paying up the remainder of their contract.
There was also interesting mention of clever contract clauses, like being able to fire someone for cheaper if the team's position in the table was below a certain point. |  | | |
| Chris Beech on 13:49 - Nov 29 with 3618 views | D_Alien |
| Chris Beech on 13:45 - Nov 29 by CockneyDale |
There's an interesting piece in The Athletic today by an anonymous club owner about what happens when a manager is sacked. It's apparently usual to pay people only up until they find a new job, no matter if there's years left on the deal and they find a job in 7/8 months, as Hill (roughly) did. So if this applies to Hill's contract too, then although it clearly cost us money, it may not have been as astronomical as paying up the remainder of their contract.
There was also interesting mention of clever contract clauses, like being able to fire someone for cheaper if the team's position in the table was below a certain point. |
That latter inclusion in a contract could well have club chairmen hoping for a defeat to reduce the payout! |  |
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| Chris Beech on 13:52 - Nov 29 with 3611 views | CockneyDale |
| Chris Beech on 13:49 - Nov 29 by D_Alien |
That latter inclusion in a contract could well have club chairmen hoping for a defeat to reduce the payout! |
True! But also could motivate managers who are near the end to continue to try | | | |
| Chris Beech on 12:20 - Dec 22 with 3179 views | fitzochris |
Looking for anything to distract me from the fact we’re poor just now, I notice Carlisle lost again.
It got me thinking about Beech’s record. Has he ever won a game where he has been in charge? He hasn’t while at Carlisle so far and he certainly didn’t when he was with us, from what I can recall. |  |
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| Chris Beech on 12:28 - Dec 22 with 3161 views | TVOS1907 |
| Chris Beech on 12:20 - Dec 22 by fitzochris |
Looking for anything to distract me from the fact we’re poor just now, I notice Carlisle lost again.
It got me thinking about Beech’s record. Has he ever won a game where he has been in charge? He hasn’t while at Carlisle so far and he certainly didn’t when he was with us, from what I can recall. |
He won their FA Cup replay v Forest Green the other week. | |
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| Chris Beech on 12:39 - Dec 22 with 3135 views | fitzochris |
| Chris Beech on 12:28 - Dec 22 by TVOS1907 |
He won their FA Cup replay v Forest Green the other week. |
True. I was just looking at the league record tbf. | |
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