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I believe it was this outrageous comment made by Flo in response to the club's statement
A very good statement from the club, as you would expect. You can see the passion, frustration and emotion in Les Ferdinand’s words. No other club has had any criticism over this. I disagree with stopping the pre-match knee but I trust the club with its actions and commitment. https://t.co/3Byk0gAi3u
I believe it was this outrageous comment made by Flo in response to the club's statement
A very good statement from the club, as you would expect. You can see the passion, frustration and emotion in Les Ferdinand’s words. No other club has had any criticism over this. I disagree with stopping the pre-match knee but I trust the club with its actions and commitment. https://t.co/3Byk0gAi3u
Me too - once they started putting letters into Maths I was lost. I hate Maths with a passion. My sister taught it for 40 years. I've been teaching English for 10. When we were kids, I did her English homework and she did my Maths. It clearly was meant to be!
"Renni Edo-Lodge - Why I'm No Longer Talking to White People About Race Layla Saad - Me and White Supremacy: How to Recognise Privilege, Combat Racism and Change the World"
Are you serious?
Professional race baiters are the sole evidence of systemic racism. Ok you win I give up.
Yes I am being serious.
Have you read any of these books, or are you just pre-judging them?
I have said nothing about 'sole evidence'. But take the time to read just one of these, and you may encounter some arguments about systemic racism you've not heard before.
Alternatively, ignore the books, ignore what the club's DoF is saying, come on a message board and claim without anything to back it up that "The narrative is that this is a completely racist country", and that in your humble opinion, this situation is "a load of absolute cnt"
Me too - once they started putting letters into Maths I was lost. I hate Maths with a passion. My sister taught it for 40 years. I've been teaching English for 10. When we were kids, I did her English homework and she did my Maths. It clearly was meant to be!
"Me too - once they started putting letters into Maths I was lost." - Great line.
Sums me up perfectly.
"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
Feeding the beast that bites you. By the way, i cancelled mine, that'll teach em!
I'm really struggling with this at the moment Dave. Want to get rid on moral grounds but really love my cricket. Becoming less and less fussed about the football
Yes systemic racism is at the root of this. There's plenty of enlightening reading out there on the subject.
Akala - Natives: Race & Class in the Ruins of Empire Afua Hirsch - Brit(ish): On Race, Identity & Belonging Renni Edo-Lodge - Why I'm No Longer Talking to White People About Race Layla Saad - Me and White Supremacy: How to Recognise Privilege, Combat Racism and Change the World Ibram X Kendi - How to be an Anti-Racist
This is an excellent counter point to the Critical Social Justice stance.
Much more balanced imo, the host does go on too much in the last half but some heavyweight black intellectuals are featured.
Have you read any of these books, or are you just pre-judging them?
I have said nothing about 'sole evidence'. But take the time to read just one of these, and you may encounter some arguments about systemic racism you've not heard before.
Alternatively, ignore the books, ignore what the club's DoF is saying, come on a message board and claim without anything to back it up that "The narrative is that this is a completely racist country", and that in your humble opinion, this situation is "a load of absolute cnt"
So by your logic unless you have read Mein Kampf you know nothing about Facism or the Nazis. Yes?
So by your logic unless you have read Mein Kampf you know nothing about Facism or the Nazis. Yes?
Absolute baloney.
I think you can learn enough about Facism or the Nazis by a simple reading of history.
Unless you can point to such evident carnage wrought by Renni Edo-Lodge or Layla Saad then yes, you probably do need to read their books to understand their viewpoint.
I think you can learn enough about Facism or the Nazis by a simple reading of history.
Unless you can point to such evident carnage wrought by Renni Edo-Lodge or Layla Saad then yes, you probably do need to read their books to understand their viewpoint.
No, the point is you are trying to rubbish someone's opinion because they havent read books that you deem a requirement on the subject.
This is an excellent counter point to the Critical Social Justice stance.
Much more balanced imo, the host does go on too much in the last half but some heavyweight black intellectuals are featured.
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Thanks for posting this, it looks really interesting. In particular I’d never heard of Chloé Valdary and her “Theory of Enchantment” anti- racism training, which is based on principles that I wholeheartedly agree with. A very good book on this topic is the recently published “Cynical Theories:How Activist Scholarship Made Everything about Race,Gender and Identity-and why this harms Everybody” by Helen Pluckrose and James Lindsay.
Have you read any of these books, or are you just pre-judging them?
I have said nothing about 'sole evidence'. But take the time to read just one of these, and you may encounter some arguments about systemic racism you've not heard before.
Alternatively, ignore the books, ignore what the club's DoF is saying, come on a message board and claim without anything to back it up that "The narrative is that this is a completely racist country", and that in your humble opinion, this situation is "a load of absolute cnt"
Well Renni Edo-Lodge can't even get through the title of her book "Why I'm No Longer Talking to White People About Race" without a racist dig at white people.
If someone wrote a counter argument book called "Why I no longer listen to black people about racism" there would be uproar over the racist title.
But maybe the title is just designed to controversy and the contents are more balanced, so let's see what Trevor Phillips (who I suspect will have a lot more time for the book then me) had to say about it in his review:
"she probes some of these delicately knotted issues with all the subtlety of a blunderbuss."
"In her eyes, if a white person beats a black person to a job, anyone who suggests that competence might be a factor must be “defending whiteness”."
"The disappointment is that a writer of this generation has so little to offer beyond the multiculturalist clichés some of us invented three decades ago and abandoned after 9/11 and 7/7. But the failure of today’s liberals to confront new realities in identity politics has left some appearing to tolerate positions which are at best risible, and at worst simply disgusting. The abuse of white children by largely Asian gangs, exposed by The Times’s Andrew Norfolk, is, dismayingly, dismissed by Eddo-Lodge as a consequence of “Western objectification of female flesh [focusing] heavily on whiteness and on youth”."
"Race does matter, and we do need to talk about it; but not like this, I’m afraid."
Honestly if you're just relying on race baiting commentators like this to form your opinion, it's no surprise that you see racism everywhere.
No, the point is you are trying to rubbish someone's opinion because they havent read books that you deem a requirement on the subject.
Pretty pathetic imo.
Hold on, no, I'm not.
I'm saying you need to read a book before understanding it and criticising it and the author. That's not the same as saying you need to read Mein Kampf to understand the Nazis were the bad guys.
I'm sure Northern wants this debate like a hole in the head so I'll leave it there.
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