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It seems like mostly a circular argument to me where the starting point is that you believe in systemic racism and that racism is pervasive and all one way and all conclusions follow from that.
If someone disagrees with these points or asks where the evidence is for it, they just get told that it is because of systemic racism or get called racist. Or they get pointed to historical racism as evidence that there is rampant racism today. Can you see why people are sceptical of these claims?
"Because it's very, very, very much rarer for someone to be killed for being white in western nations than it is for someone to be killed for being black. "
Is there any evidence George Floyd was killed because he was black?
In the US more white people are killed by police than black people, but more black people are killed per capita. On the other hand, when people are involved in armed confrontation with police the police are more likely to kill a white person than a black one.
"Is it at least in part because black communities on both sides of the Atlantic see significantly less resources — healthcare, policing, education"
Really? That surprises me as most black people live in London which has the highest government funding per capita in England. What is the difference in funding per capita for black people?
[Post edited 22 Sep 2020 11:41]
Yes systemic racism is at the root of this. There's plenty of enlightening reading out there on the subject.
Akala - Natives: Race & Class in the Ruins of Empire Afua Hirsch - Brit(ish): On Race, Identity & Belonging Renni Edo-Lodge - Why I'm No Longer Talking to White People About Race Layla Saad - Me and White Supremacy: How to Recognise Privilege, Combat Racism and Change the World Ibram X Kendi - How to be an Anti-Racist
Not quite correct either, a prime number has two (and only two) distinct factors.
Is that not what I said. One and itself amounts to two numbers. One is not classed as a factor as if accepted as such it would invalidate the Fundamental Theorem Arithmatic
Is that not what I said. One and itself amounts to two numbers. One is not classed as a factor as if accepted as such it would invalidate the Fundamental Theorem Arithmatic
[Post edited 22 Sep 2020 12:39]
No. One is a factor of every number. One isn't a prime number.
It seems like mostly a circular argument to me where the starting point is that you believe in systemic racism and that racism is pervasive and all one way and all conclusions follow from that.
If someone disagrees with these points or asks where the evidence is for it, they just get told that it is because of systemic racism or get called racist. Or they get pointed to historical racism as evidence that there is rampant racism today. Can you see why people are sceptical of these claims?
"Because it's very, very, very much rarer for someone to be killed for being white in western nations than it is for someone to be killed for being black. "
Is there any evidence George Floyd was killed because he was black?
In the US more white people are killed by police than black people, but more black people are killed per capita. On the other hand, when people are involved in armed confrontation with police the police are more likely to kill a white person than a black one.
"Is it at least in part because black communities on both sides of the Atlantic see significantly less resources — healthcare, policing, education"
Really? That surprises me as most black people live in London which has the highest government funding per capita in England. What is the difference in funding per capita for black people?
[Post edited 22 Sep 2020 11:41]
"Really? That surprises me as most black people live in London which has the highest government funding per capita in England."
How much of that funding is to TFL? Having buses and an underground system doesn't really help you much for education and healthcare. Maybe need a bit more of a breakdown of how this finding is spent before we can assume that it's benefiting the residents in the right way.
"Is there any evidence George Floyd was killed because he was black?"
I believe there is statistical evidence, or at least it has been reported as being so.
"In the US more white people are killed by police than black people, but more black people are killed per capita. On the other hand, when people are involved in armed confrontation with police the police are more likely to kill a white person than a black one."
Have you got a reference for this?
"That surprises me as most black people live in London which has the highest government funding per capita in England. What is the difference in funding per capita for black people?"
It's always easy to find a exception, that doesn't mean the general principal is unfounded.
"Have you got a reference for this?"
Yes the most comprehensive study in the US found no racial bias about who the police kill. The study is here and Wall Street Journal comment on it can be found here:
"It's always easy to find a exception, that doesn't mean the general principal is unfounded."
Yes agreed, I just said it surprised me so I was asking about it. As NW5 made the claim that black people have less government resources spent on them I'd be interested where he got the figures from.
If he just stated that with no evidence to back it up then he should probably apply for a job working at the Guardian
Anyone seen the latest odds for the various prime number definitions?
I bet SkyBet are all over it, having succeeded in getting us bickering over race issues and esoteric maths stuff in a thread which was meant to be about how evil they are.
"Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1."
Yes systemic racism is at the root of this. There's plenty of enlightening reading out there on the subject.
Akala - Natives: Race & Class in the Ruins of Empire Afua Hirsch - Brit(ish): On Race, Identity & Belonging Renni Edo-Lodge - Why I'm No Longer Talking to White People About Race Layla Saad - Me and White Supremacy: How to Recognise Privilege, Combat Racism and Change the World Ibram X Kendi - How to be an Anti-Racist
"Renni Edo-Lodge - Why I'm No Longer Talking to White People About Race Layla Saad - Me and White Supremacy: How to Recognise Privilege, Combat Racism and Change the World"
Are you serious?
Professional race baiters are the sole evidence of systemic racism. Ok you win I give up.
Anyone seen the latest odds for the various prime number definitions?
I bet SkyBet are all over it, having succeeded in getting us bickering over race issues and esoteric maths stuff in a thread which was meant to be about how evil they are.
From prime numbers to 'White privilege'. From Flo Lloyd hughes to Sue Perkins. From Gammons to cucks and soys...
This bloody threads a bloody swine, Northern should draw a bloody line.
[Post edited 22 Sep 2020 15:03]
Does this help? Maths and Carol all rolled into one.
"Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1."
Anyone seen the latest odds for the various prime number definitions?
I bet SkyBet are all over it, having succeeded in getting us bickering over race issues and esoteric maths stuff in a thread which was meant to be about how evil they are.
On the subject of primes, I've always liked Euclid's proof for the existence of an infinite number of primes. Over 2,000 years old as well!
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