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Forthcoming games 21:54 - Aug 10 with 11535 viewspioneer

Hornets postponed game v Skolars now set for wednesday week. That means there will be games on Saturday, Sunday, Wednesday and Saturday. Lets hope the weather is kind….the pitch is looking good…it would be a shame for combination of bad weather and over use to undo the hard work thats gone into it.
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Forthcoming games on 19:39 - Aug 31 with 4189 viewsRAFCBLUE

Forthcoming games on 09:05 - Aug 28 by RAFCBLUE

Hornets financial accounts for last season (to November 2022) will be out later this week.

They’ll be published here and give and idea of their financial state as they started 2023 having offloaded all the high earners:

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/12673168

Sadly the future fortunes of both clubs are linked to their financial power and likely that 2024 will be another challenging year.


Accounts now published here:
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/12673168

Rochdale Hornets lost £136,706 in the period 1st December 2021 to 30th November 2022. They played 13 games in all competitions at Spotland during that time.

This was prior to the current season where only 9 games have been played in all competitions at Spotland and after the cuts in central funding from IMG.

George Bernard Shaw had it right: "He who can does; he who cannot, teaches." https://www.visittheusa.co.uk/
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Forthcoming games on 20:01 - Aug 31 with 4139 viewspioneer

Forthcoming games on 19:39 - Aug 31 by RAFCBLUE

Accounts now published here:
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/12673168

Rochdale Hornets lost £136,706 in the period 1st December 2021 to 30th November 2022. They played 13 games in all competitions at Spotland during that time.

This was prior to the current season where only 9 games have been played in all competitions at Spotland and after the cuts in central funding from IMG.


By his own admission the owner slashed the budget this season …and it showed on the field. But it might mean the financial results are better (or less worse)
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Forthcoming games on 20:26 - Aug 31 with 4066 views442Dale

Forthcoming games on 20:01 - Aug 31 by pioneer

By his own admission the owner slashed the budget this season …and it showed on the field. But it might mean the financial results are better (or less worse)


Though just over a year ago we “significantly” increased our budget for last season when the club had “a stable financial platform and cash reserves to be well positioned for next season”, a season we finished bottom of the Football League.

In the past we’ve succeeded in leagues against clubs with resources that are way bigger than ours, and we’ve started this season solidly despite the well known financial restrictions the manager has spoken about.

It’s back to the point earlier in the thread and elsewhere: having money helps in sport, but at Rochdale it has never been vital in how we perform on the pitch. It’s a tedious narrative Dale fans don’t want to hear. I’m really hopeful that this campaign can illustrate that again, in fact it’s enjoyable watching McNulty finding solutions with what we have rather than seeing too many players join, with far too many sat in the stands. It’s on Hornets to find a way to do similar.
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Forthcoming games on 20:38 - Aug 31 with 4053 viewsD_Alien

Forthcoming games on 20:26 - Aug 31 by 442Dale

Though just over a year ago we “significantly” increased our budget for last season when the club had “a stable financial platform and cash reserves to be well positioned for next season”, a season we finished bottom of the Football League.

In the past we’ve succeeded in leagues against clubs with resources that are way bigger than ours, and we’ve started this season solidly despite the well known financial restrictions the manager has spoken about.

It’s back to the point earlier in the thread and elsewhere: having money helps in sport, but at Rochdale it has never been vital in how we perform on the pitch. It’s a tedious narrative Dale fans don’t want to hear. I’m really hopeful that this campaign can illustrate that again, in fact it’s enjoyable watching McNulty finding solutions with what we have rather than seeing too many players join, with far too many sat in the stands. It’s on Hornets to find a way to do similar.
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Yes, i wish people would stop banging on about our squad size being "inadequate"

I can't believe i'm going to use this phrase on here, but here goes: it's not the size that matters, it's what you do with it

Arrrrghhhhh!!

Case in point: Max Taylor. He has the makings of a decent CB but till coming on as sub last Monday couldn't get a game. Sat on the bench, the splinters in his arse showed when he made it onto the pitch. He's better than that, but having squad players sitting it out for long periods doesn't bode well when suddenly required to get up to speed in a tight game (until Hendo scored) With a bigger squad, you could multiply that factor. Plus, we can't afford it

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Forthcoming games on 21:10 - Aug 31 with 3978 viewsRAFCBLUE

Forthcoming games on 20:01 - Aug 31 by pioneer

By his own admission the owner slashed the budget this season …and it showed on the field. But it might mean the financial results are better (or less worse)


Based on those financials on 30th November 2022, Rochdale Hornets had just £12,292 of cash where there was then no rugby until the end of February and just 9 games in 2023 at Spotland from February to August 2023 with a modest average attendance, aside from the Oldham derby game.

The main asset on the balance sheet is £64,999 of goodwill being written off over five years and "other creditors" of £49,785 which is likely to be some form of loan(s).

The financial future for Rochdale Hornets looks very bleak if they are losing approximately £2.5k per week as suggested by those accounts on crowds of under 500.

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Forthcoming games on 22:08 - Aug 31 with 3858 viewsJames1980

Forthcoming games on 21:10 - Aug 31 by RAFCBLUE

Based on those financials on 30th November 2022, Rochdale Hornets had just £12,292 of cash where there was then no rugby until the end of February and just 9 games in 2023 at Spotland from February to August 2023 with a modest average attendance, aside from the Oldham derby game.

The main asset on the balance sheet is £64,999 of goodwill being written off over five years and "other creditors" of £49,785 which is likely to be some form of loan(s).

The financial future for Rochdale Hornets looks very bleak if they are losing approximately £2.5k per week as suggested by those accounts on crowds of under 500.


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Forthcoming games on 22:48 - Aug 31 with 3787 viewsRAFCBLUE

Forthcoming games on 22:08 - Aug 31 by James1980

Rugby League is broken?


Apparently only if Leeds Rhinos make the Grand Final again.

https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/rugby-league-is-broken-if-this-side-make-the-gran

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Forthcoming games on 14:13 - Sep 15 with 3296 viewsEllDale

London Skolars have now announced their intention to withdraw from the RFL in 2024 and play in a local, regional league instead.
That doesn't mean much of a fixture list for Hornets next season unless the authorities have something up their sleeve.
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Forthcoming games on 20:03 - Sep 23 with 2939 viewsEllDale

Apparently there were over 1000 at Mayfield this afternoon for their playoff game versus Siddal.
Fair play to them if that’s correct. That’s a “gate” some professional clubs dream of these days.
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Forthcoming games on 23:05 - Sep 23 with 2808 viewspioneer

Forthcoming games on 20:03 - Sep 23 by EllDale

Apparently there were over 1000 at Mayfield this afternoon for their playoff game versus Siddal.
Fair play to them if that’s correct. That’s a “gate” some professional clubs dream of these days.


Yes, and with no encouragement or support from our tenants based on the vitriol on the Hornets board from HornyHornyAndy. I suppose Mayfield could claim to be the best supported rugby team in the town.

Gotbto win too games in yorkshire now to win the title.
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Forthcoming games on 23:16 - Sep 23 with 2783 viewsnordenblue

Forthcoming games on 20:03 - Sep 23 by EllDale

Apparently there were over 1000 at Mayfield this afternoon for their playoff game versus Siddal.
Fair play to them if that’s correct. That’s a “gate” some professional clubs dream of these days.


I went down to watch the game today at Mayfield, a superb set up and a Very decent vocal crowd, took my young lad for his first taste of live sport and he absolutely loved it, along with everyone else there it seems, the effort the lads put in is phenomenal.

It's everything a local club should be, first class.
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Forthcoming games on 21:42 - Oct 4 with 2390 viewsEllDale

After all the speculation the RFL professional clubs met in Huddersfield today and decided to keep the status quo in 2024:
12 clubs in Super League
14 clubs in the Championship
9 clubs in League One.
Apparently the most aggrieved were the League One chairmen but they’d no chance against the bigger clubs in a straight vote.
If Hornets don’t get a home draw in the Challenge Cup or get a home tie in the playoffs they’ll have just the eight games at the COA next year.
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Forthcoming games on 02:01 - Oct 5 with 2233 viewspioneer

Forthcoming games on 21:42 - Oct 4 by EllDale

After all the speculation the RFL professional clubs met in Huddersfield today and decided to keep the status quo in 2024:
12 clubs in Super League
14 clubs in the Championship
9 clubs in League One.
Apparently the most aggrieved were the League One chairmen but they’d no chance against the bigger clubs in a straight vote.
If Hornets don’t get a home draw in the Challenge Cup or get a home tie in the playoffs they’ll have just the eight games at the COA next year.


And they 'owe' last years season ticket holders a game for the unplayed skolars game. I think they indicated they will let them in free at a preseason game....cheapskates!
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Forthcoming games on 12:51 - Oct 5 with 2053 viewsDalenet

Forthcoming games on 21:42 - Oct 4 by EllDale

After all the speculation the RFL professional clubs met in Huddersfield today and decided to keep the status quo in 2024:
12 clubs in Super League
14 clubs in the Championship
9 clubs in League One.
Apparently the most aggrieved were the League One chairmen but they’d no chance against the bigger clubs in a straight vote.
If Hornets don’t get a home draw in the Challenge Cup or get a home tie in the playoffs they’ll have just the eight games at the COA next year.


Didn't Mazey vote for the new funding (or lack of funding) approach 6 months ago. I have no idea how they will survive.
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Forthcoming games on 13:21 - Oct 5 with 2022 views100notout

Forthcoming games on 12:51 - Oct 5 by Dalenet

Didn't Mazey vote for the new funding (or lack of funding) approach 6 months ago. I have no idea how they will survive.


Is Mazey still spouting off on Twitter or has he gone quiet?

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Forthcoming games on 21:03 - Oct 12 with 1776 viewsEllDale

And it gets worse.
Newcastle, recently relegated from the championship, are believed to be announcing tomorrow that, due to investor withdrawal, they won’t be playing in League One next season.
That would reduce it to an eight team league with just seven home games for Hornets if true.
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Forthcoming games on 22:14 - Oct 12 with 1697 viewsR17ALE

Forthcoming games on 21:03 - Oct 12 by EllDale

And it gets worse.
Newcastle, recently relegated from the championship, are believed to be announcing tomorrow that, due to investor withdrawal, they won’t be playing in League One next season.
That would reduce it to an eight team league with just seven home games for Hornets if true.


Bingo!

I've found somewhere for the RL borers to go to, yes EllDale and Pioneer.

Click and gorge theesens!

https://www.totalrl.com/forums/index.php?/forum/341-the-general-rugby-league-for

RL is shite and has no place here.

For the proper Dale fans the Cup starts here!


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Forthcoming games on 22:27 - Oct 12 with 1669 viewsDalenet

Forthcoming games on 21:03 - Oct 12 by EllDale

And it gets worse.
Newcastle, recently relegated from the championship, are believed to be announcing tomorrow that, due to investor withdrawal, they won’t be playing in League One next season.
That would reduce it to an eight team league with just seven home games for Hornets if true.


Its a cluster fook. They will need to regroup and form 2 leagues now. How many more will go under before next season. Shambles - would never happen in football
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Forthcoming games on 23:44 - Oct 12 with 1604 viewspioneer

Forthcoming games on 22:14 - Oct 12 by R17ALE

Bingo!

I've found somewhere for the RL borers to go to, yes EllDale and Pioneer.

Click and gorge theesens!

https://www.totalrl.com/forums/index.php?/forum/341-the-general-rugby-league-for

RL is shite and has no place here.

For the proper Dale fans the Cup starts here!



Thanks for that but its a well established site that I have been part of for many years. But congratulate you on your powers of investigation.

Odd how you think folks who support BOTH our local professional teams are borers. Given the sad state of both clubs at the moment partly to do with leadership issuesat both, the last thing we need is bitterness between the clubs and their fans.

Up the Dale, Onward Hornets Onward
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Forthcoming games on 08:22 - Oct 13 with 1475 viewsMass_Debater

Forthcoming games on 23:44 - Oct 12 by pioneer

Thanks for that but its a well established site that I have been part of for many years. But congratulate you on your powers of investigation.

Odd how you think folks who support BOTH our local professional teams are borers. Given the sad state of both clubs at the moment partly to do with leadership issuesat both, the last thing we need is bitterness between the clubs and their fans.

Up the Dale, Onward Hornets Onward


Read the room
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Forthcoming games on 15:08 - Oct 15 with 951 viewsRAFCBLUE

Forthcoming games on 08:22 - Oct 13 by Mass_Debater

Read the room


Based on Mazey's statement yesterday he's saying that Hornets aren't viable.

Might not be too much more to report if in 2024, a couple of the other League 1 teams follow London, Newcastle and others withdrawing.

Of course that would be another financial hole for the club to plug if the rental income is lost for good.

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