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Venezuela 09:42 - Jan 3 with 3739 viewsDr_Winston

Trump claiming that the US has "captured" Maduro.

Hope he's right. Venezuela could be a wealthy and prosperous nation if if wasn't ruled by corrupt Socialists. Albeit it's kinda their own fault for being dumb enough to elect Chavez in the first place.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/
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Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Venezuela on 18:13 - Jan 5 with 909 viewsunion_jack

Venezuela on 17:49 - Jan 5 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

Read earlier it’s the fifth head of state the USA has captured in similar circumstances so it’s not a situation unique to Trump. Used to be commonplace in earlier European times to capture kings, dukes, high ranking nobles of course as it was lucrative to ransom them back.


Well that was back then.

Look, I’ve no doubt getting this dictator away from ruling Venezuela is a great thing but it must break a whole host of international laws.

And as I’ve said, what next? He wouldn’t do the same with Kim Jong Il, I wonder why?

Or Starmer? I wish he would. He’d get very little resistance I’d have thought.

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Venezuela on 18:41 - Jan 5 with 874 viewsKeithHaynes

Venezuela on 16:23 - Jan 5 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

He was convicted of possession of cocaine with intent to supply. They brought it up in an American court when he was found entering the country under a false name. There are videos of him bragging about being able to get drugs wherever he goes. “No matter where I’ve gone in the world I score... I’ve gone to f***ing Qatar, to Doha, and scored gear on the sesh while they’re all praying. Everywhere, mate, every city I’ve gone to”.

There are also several accounts from people who say he’s constantly on the stuff. He’s also spoken in podcasts about his addiction.


Didn’t realise that, i know he’s considering suing some bloke who said the same the other day.

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Venezuela on 18:48 - Jan 5 with 859 viewsbuilthjack

The USA has about 15 years of oil reserves 74,000 million barrels.
Venezuela has 1,100,00 million barrels.
So yes, Trump , being the bully that he is, is thinking I will have some of that.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded.

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Venezuela on 20:20 - Jan 5 with 792 viewsDemitrius

On the subject of Tommy Robinson and the coke thing ...

I think many who have lived 'a bit of a wild life' have done things they aren't proud of and would rather forget looking back. Many people have had some sort of addiction than you'd think I'd say, especially in the modern world, especially the last 2 or 3 generations, whether it's gambling, booze, drugs, sex, porn, scratchcards...even shopping and running up debts.

I'm not some cheerleader for TR by any means but he wears his heart on his sleeve and is a take me or leave me warts and all bloke. He doesn't claim to be anything else. He's done much to shine a light on some very dark corners of our society that many would choose to wilfully ignore. I for one, am glad he did so and put himself up there to be shot at by a corrupt and biased system. That takes a degree of intestinal fortitude and cohones and for that reason I have respect for him.

For perspective, and underlining the hypocrisy of the MSM, it is an almost nailed on certainty that many in the Commons and Lords are well-known cocaine users. If the truth broke in full it would have brought down a few previous governments. The whole political establishment is a sewer of sexual peccadiloes, drugs and corruption...The Nick Brown fiasco is one they couldn't hide despite the media suppresion. You would reasonably argue there are probably more bubbling under the surface ready to be exposed but for now they are flawed but usefully compromised idiots.

For a cross-section of 650 members of the public they do seem to have a disproportionate amount of wrong 'uns that find their way in...
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Venezuela on 23:22 - Jan 5 with 706 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Venezuela on 18:41 - Jan 5 by KeithHaynes

Didn’t realise that, i know he’s considering suing some bloke who said the same the other day.


He can consider all he wants, all this is in the public domain.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/

https://theweek.com/99588/tomm

https://metro.co.uk/2019/02/13

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48

In the interest of balance his side of the story is he does claim that the videos were “banter” and that he was “steamboated” and didn’t really score drugs in Muslim countries.

His conviction for possession is a matter of public record though. He may be clean now I don’t know and addiction is obviously a terrible curse but he’s obviously got a long history with drugs and is on record speaking about it himself so i imagine it wouldn’t be easy for him to sue someone to suggest he hasn’t.

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Venezuela on 10:50 - Jan 6 with 622 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Venezuela on 18:13 - Jan 5 by union_jack

Well that was back then.

Look, I’ve no doubt getting this dictator away from ruling Venezuela is a great thing but it must break a whole host of international laws.

And as I’ve said, what next? He wouldn’t do the same with Kim Jong Il, I wonder why?

Or Starmer? I wish he would. He’d get very little resistance I’d have thought.


What are the consequences of breaking international laws though? There are none. Perhaps the odd sanction here and there or maybe a fine but there are no real tangible consequences. The rules based international order only works when countries choose to buy into it and remain compliant.

National law has meaning. There is a police force and a CPS and intelligence agencies and a whole judicial system that is universally recognised and has its foundations going back nearly a thousand years. In the last few years we’ve seen Boris Johnson and Sunak being hauled in front of the courts.

International law is different. It’s not really law it’s a loose set of agreements to how you should act. This is why the UN and the ECHR and to an extent the EU and all the other supranational quangos, NGO’s and IGO’s are completely toothless to act when someone wilfully decides to ignore agreements made. The likes of Putin and Trump or Kim Jong Un or anybody else cannot be arrested or punished because there is no real “crime” being committed, they’ve just reneged on a loose set of agreements.

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Venezuela on 13:54 - Jan 6 with 567 viewsunion_jack

Venezuela on 10:50 - Jan 6 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

What are the consequences of breaking international laws though? There are none. Perhaps the odd sanction here and there or maybe a fine but there are no real tangible consequences. The rules based international order only works when countries choose to buy into it and remain compliant.

National law has meaning. There is a police force and a CPS and intelligence agencies and a whole judicial system that is universally recognised and has its foundations going back nearly a thousand years. In the last few years we’ve seen Boris Johnson and Sunak being hauled in front of the courts.

International law is different. It’s not really law it’s a loose set of agreements to how you should act. This is why the UN and the ECHR and to an extent the EU and all the other supranational quangos, NGO’s and IGO’s are completely toothless to act when someone wilfully decides to ignore agreements made. The likes of Putin and Trump or Kim Jong Un or anybody else cannot be arrested or punished because there is no real “crime” being committed, they’ve just reneged on a loose set of agreements.


Sadly a very good point.

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Venezuela on 14:18 - Jan 6 with 556 viewsBoundy

Venezuela on 14:16 - Jan 5 by Gwyn737

I'm not sure what that article means for fishing...

Do you think closer alignment with the EU will see 150 million arriving?


I posted it admittedly off the point being discussed but in the hope this would bring a ray of hope into your heart .

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Venezuela on 15:33 - Jan 6 with 532 viewsGwyn737

Venezuela on 14:18 - Jan 6 by Boundy

I posted it admittedly off the point being discussed but in the hope this would bring a ray of hope into your heart .


I'm full of rays of hope and sunshine!

Mind you, after Christmas it could be Guinness and Ferrero Rocher....
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Venezuela on 21:16 - Jan 6 with 458 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

I admit to being more than amused by the outpourings of surprise on these events. Anyone who has an understanding of US foreign policy since WW2 will see this as just another intervention, albeit a small one.

Time to bring back Oliver North?
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Venezuela on 01:56 - Jan 7 with 404 viewsRobbie

The hot air balloon of The Coalition of the Willing is sinking faster than the iceberg belts around the Arctic Circle , talk about quangos and waffle , this lot take it to a new level .

The Don holds all the cards , a initial threat of aggression against Greenland will result in more hand wringing and lets not upset Uncle Sam .

China , USA and Russia at the top table of World domination , NATO is a spent force now .

We are all doomed I tell yah , doomed .

Dads Army joke in there to lighten the mood .

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Venezuela on 10:10 - Jan 7 with 349 viewsBoundy

Venezuela on 01:56 - Jan 7 by Robbie

The hot air balloon of The Coalition of the Willing is sinking faster than the iceberg belts around the Arctic Circle , talk about quangos and waffle , this lot take it to a new level .

The Don holds all the cards , a initial threat of aggression against Greenland will result in more hand wringing and lets not upset Uncle Sam .

China , USA and Russia at the top table of World domination , NATO is a spent force now .

We are all doomed I tell yah , doomed .

Dads Army joke in there to lighten the mood .

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I've always found an old saying helpful when trying to navigate my way through life , worry about the things you can control , the rest well thats someone else's problem.

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Venezuela on 10:46 - Jan 7 with 331 viewsonehunglow

Venezuela on 10:10 - Jan 7 by Boundy

I've always found an old saying helpful when trying to navigate my way through life , worry about the things you can control , the rest well thats someone else's problem.


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Venezuela on 14:55 - Jan 7 with 274 viewscontroversial_jack

Venezuela on 01:56 - Jan 7 by Robbie

The hot air balloon of The Coalition of the Willing is sinking faster than the iceberg belts around the Arctic Circle , talk about quangos and waffle , this lot take it to a new level .

The Don holds all the cards , a initial threat of aggression against Greenland will result in more hand wringing and lets not upset Uncle Sam .

China , USA and Russia at the top table of World domination , NATO is a spent force now .

We are all doomed I tell yah , doomed .

Dads Army joke in there to lighten the mood .

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Putin could see that NATO, and especially the US was a threat to Russia. With recent American aggression and sabre rattling, he has been proven right. The US are a bigger threat to the world than Putin is.
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Venezuela on 23:01 - Jan 7 with 171 viewsDemitrius

Venezuela on 14:55 - Jan 7 by controversial_jack

Putin could see that NATO, and especially the US was a threat to Russia. With recent American aggression and sabre rattling, he has been proven right. The US are a bigger threat to the world than Putin is.


How is NATO a "threat" to Russia....?

I'll wait...

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Venezuela on 23:40 - Jan 7 with 152 viewsonehunglow

Venezuela on 19:56 - Jan 3 by Luther27

Agree regarding China Max. But you have to remember that Trump is an emotional person….and he hates the Chinese. I don’t think this is lost on them.


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Venezuela on 11:26 - Jan 8 with 78 viewscontroversial_jack

Venezuela on 23:01 - Jan 7 by Demitrius

How is NATO a "threat" to Russia....?

I'll wait...


Not sure how you can't see this. NATO is the USA. The USA is an aggressive imperialist nation. NATO. has expanded eastwards, despite assurances they wouldn't. They orchestrated the coup to remove a pro Russian president for an anti Russian one in 2014.Since then they have supplied and armed the Ukranian forces in the east. The Ukranian forces were full of neo nazis units who were terrorizing the ethnic Russians in the Donbass. The Ukranian military is mostly extreme right wing. If you were Russian , would you want that on your border? Before the conflict, the Ukranian army was large, well trained and well supplied. Russian troops approx 30k went into the Ukraine, to get Zelensky to the negotiating table. it worked, until Boris Johnson under orders from the US went there and told the Ukraine to keep on fighting till the last man, which is, unfortunately what they are doing.They had and have no chance of winning. It's a proxy war between the US and Russia with the Ukraine as the tool. It hasn't worked out for the US or the Ukraine. This is why Putin doesn't trust NATO,

We can go on about what's morally and legally right for Russia to do, but it's real politik. Given what the US has done in Venezuela, threats to Greenland Iran and so on, he has been proven correct
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Venezuela on 11:32 - Jan 8 with 75 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Venezuela on 11:26 - Jan 8 by controversial_jack

Not sure how you can't see this. NATO is the USA. The USA is an aggressive imperialist nation. NATO. has expanded eastwards, despite assurances they wouldn't. They orchestrated the coup to remove a pro Russian president for an anti Russian one in 2014.Since then they have supplied and armed the Ukranian forces in the east. The Ukranian forces were full of neo nazis units who were terrorizing the ethnic Russians in the Donbass. The Ukranian military is mostly extreme right wing. If you were Russian , would you want that on your border? Before the conflict, the Ukranian army was large, well trained and well supplied. Russian troops approx 30k went into the Ukraine, to get Zelensky to the negotiating table. it worked, until Boris Johnson under orders from the US went there and told the Ukraine to keep on fighting till the last man, which is, unfortunately what they are doing.They had and have no chance of winning. It's a proxy war between the US and Russia with the Ukraine as the tool. It hasn't worked out for the US or the Ukraine. This is why Putin doesn't trust NATO,

We can go on about what's morally and legally right for Russia to do, but it's real politik. Given what the US has done in Venezuela, threats to Greenland Iran and so on, he has been proven correct


You’re talking about “the expansion of NATO” as if countries want to have to commit a serious chunk of their GDP towards military spending. They don’t. Being a member of NATO is expensive. The single most fundamental reason for countries specifically close to and on the border with Russia to apply to join NATO is that they fear the sort of Russian aggression we have seen in the last few decades. With Putin marching into Ukraine, Georgia, Cheznya, Crimea and numerous other places with impunity you can’t really blame them.

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Venezuela on 11:56 - Jan 8 with 61 viewsDemitrius

Venezuela on 11:32 - Jan 8 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

You’re talking about “the expansion of NATO” as if countries want to have to commit a serious chunk of their GDP towards military spending. They don’t. Being a member of NATO is expensive. The single most fundamental reason for countries specifically close to and on the border with Russia to apply to join NATO is that they fear the sort of Russian aggression we have seen in the last few decades. With Putin marching into Ukraine, Georgia, Cheznya, Crimea and numerous other places with impunity you can’t really blame them.


Russia has been an aggressive imperialist nation since Tsarist times despite having a large area of the globe it always craves more.

NATO was formed to curb it and keep it in check and had we not got to Berlin in time the whole of Germany would have succumbed to the Red Army. Stalin drove as far West as he could and who knows how much further he would have gone had he had the opportunity.

Putin is an embittered ex-KGB traditionalist who hates what Gorbachev did in ending the Cold War and wants those former Eastern Bloc nations back under Soviet control, hence why they all joined NATO to blunt Putin's expansionist zeal.

He's adept at playing the victim as justification for heinous actions at home and abroad.

I've worked with Russians and I wouldn't trust any of them as far as I can spit...

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Venezuela on 12:43 - Jan 8 with 40 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Venezuela on 11:56 - Jan 8 by Demitrius

Russia has been an aggressive imperialist nation since Tsarist times despite having a large area of the globe it always craves more.

NATO was formed to curb it and keep it in check and had we not got to Berlin in time the whole of Germany would have succumbed to the Red Army. Stalin drove as far West as he could and who knows how much further he would have gone had he had the opportunity.

Putin is an embittered ex-KGB traditionalist who hates what Gorbachev did in ending the Cold War and wants those former Eastern Bloc nations back under Soviet control, hence why they all joined NATO to blunt Putin's expansionist zeal.

He's adept at playing the victim as justification for heinous actions at home and abroad.

I've worked with Russians and I wouldn't trust any of them as far as I can spit...


Putin is as Soviet as you and I are. His hero is Peter the Great and he envisions himself as a Tsar of old rather than a general secretary or a chairman. The way he positions himself in his grand palace at the end of a long table or with his “advisers” all at a distance in a semi circle facing towards him, or the way he poses on a horse or out swimming and hunting. He wants to be seen almost as royalty, he projects the image that he and he alone is in charge. Ukraine is his Great North War and he wants to claim the land east of the river in the country that is now Ukraine just like Peter did. That war signified the first real steps towards a Russian empire with the defeat of the swedes. It is deeply personal for him.

To suggest this war is about NATO expansionism or Nazis or any other bollocks that CJ comes up with is risible.

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Venezuela on 12:55 - Jan 8 with 26 viewsonehunglow

Venezuela on 11:56 - Jan 8 by Demitrius

Russia has been an aggressive imperialist nation since Tsarist times despite having a large area of the globe it always craves more.

NATO was formed to curb it and keep it in check and had we not got to Berlin in time the whole of Germany would have succumbed to the Red Army. Stalin drove as far West as he could and who knows how much further he would have gone had he had the opportunity.

Putin is an embittered ex-KGB traditionalist who hates what Gorbachev did in ending the Cold War and wants those former Eastern Bloc nations back under Soviet control, hence why they all joined NATO to blunt Putin's expansionist zeal.

He's adept at playing the victim as justification for heinous actions at home and abroad.

I've worked with Russians and I wouldn't trust any of them as far as I can spit...


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