| Welsh NHS 13:04 - Nov 2 with 3013 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
I have found the NHS to be very good in my experience but it is coming under a lot of criticism and so is the Senedd. Tha people can complain but if they want better services they will have to pay more.
We have in global terms a cheap service. The cost of private health show you how expensive these provisions are . Pay more get a better service
We in Wales can get better funding with a swipe of a pen. We gave fallen behind England and need to catch up . Around £624m would be saved by abolishing FREE PRESCRIPTION CHARGES.. Want the same service? Then get in with it. We are a democracy. It is about £20 a citizen. Older people in properties with £250k plus fully paid off are pleading poverty. [Post edited 2 Nov 13:07]
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| Welsh NHS on 22:29 - Nov 6 with 0 views | Whiterockin |
| Welsh NHS on 22:17 - Nov 6 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You blame the Senedd for the NHS woes. You usual loaded answer is perhaps illuminating.
So why d we have these woes?
We have big problems in the Welsh NHS . Could the reason be the same reason for why we have Free prescription charges?.
In your words
"Wales has an ageing population whom a lot are living on low income".
We also in mid Wales have aging English migrants putting a strain on our social services.
Reform will tell you Wales cannot run its own affairs. Eluned Morgan
said we need more money. Just like you do.
In my opinion pensioners should have more money than younger people. They do if they are allowed free prescription charges in a fully paid off property with an average house price in excess of £270,000 or so.
It nice to debate but many on here cannot do it without slurs and a tendency of the "old school regulars" on first name terms to join forces and put the boot in. Put your silly flag away. Try standing on your own two feet.
Another little gem form Ai
Around 78% to 79% of people aged 65 and over in the UK own their own home.
• Outright Ownership: The vast majority of these older homeowners own their properties outright (around 74% of pensioner households have no mortgage remaining).
This means around 80% of people needing to pay £100 per month can cover it no bother at all .
Let debate. UK pensioners are loaded but hoarding asset value for fit youngsters that do not use the NHS much.
NHS woes? Blame the medical professional and the Senedd. No free up the massive asset values tied up in property kept for little Johnny. Average house price UK £280,000. Flats probably £150,,000.
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What on earth are you talking about. That is just a series of soundbites without substance. |  | | |
| Welsh NHS on 22:36 - Nov 6 with 0 views | Whiterockin |
| Welsh NHS on 22:17 - Nov 6 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You blame the Senedd for the NHS woes. You usual loaded answer is perhaps illuminating.
So why d we have these woes?
We have big problems in the Welsh NHS . Could the reason be the same reason for why we have Free prescription charges?.
In your words
"Wales has an ageing population whom a lot are living on low income".
We also in mid Wales have aging English migrants putting a strain on our social services.
Reform will tell you Wales cannot run its own affairs. Eluned Morgan
said we need more money. Just like you do.
In my opinion pensioners should have more money than younger people. They do if they are allowed free prescription charges in a fully paid off property with an average house price in excess of £270,000 or so.
It nice to debate but many on here cannot do it without slurs and a tendency of the "old school regulars" on first name terms to join forces and put the boot in. Put your silly flag away. Try standing on your own two feet.
Another little gem form Ai
Around 78% to 79% of people aged 65 and over in the UK own their own home.
• Outright Ownership: The vast majority of these older homeowners own their properties outright (around 74% of pensioner households have no mortgage remaining).
This means around 80% of people needing to pay £100 per month can cover it no bother at all .
Let debate. UK pensioners are loaded but hoarding asset value for fit youngsters that do not use the NHS much.
NHS woes? Blame the medical professional and the Senedd. No free up the massive asset values tied up in property kept for little Johnny. Average house price UK £280,000. Flats probably £150,,000.
[Post edited 6 Nov 22:35]
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So after your edit are you saying that the Senedd are making poor decisions regarding the NHS in Wales. | | | |
| Welsh NHS on 22:38 - Nov 6 with 0 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Welsh NHS on 13:06 - Nov 6 by max936 |
I'm with a NHS dentist and it costs me every time I visit because I'm working, he's talking his usual balderdash to draw attention as per usual. [Post edited 6 Nov 13:16]
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Get yourself off the NHS then . You are just a burden and taking up appointment time for the needy who from no fault of their own have no money. | |
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| Welsh NHS on 22:50 - Nov 6 with 0 views | union_jack |
| Welsh NHS on 22:17 - Nov 6 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You blame the Senedd for the NHS woes. You usual loaded answer is perhaps illuminating.
So why d we have these woes?
We have big problems in the Welsh NHS . Could the reason be the same reason for why we have Free prescription charges?.
In your words
"Wales has an ageing population whom a lot are living on low income".
We also in mid Wales have aging English migrants putting a strain on our social services.
Reform will tell you Wales cannot run its own affairs. Eluned Morgan
said we need more money. Just like you do.
In my opinion pensioners should have more money than younger people. They do if they are allowed free prescription charges in a fully paid off property with an average house price in excess of £270,000 or so.
It nice to debate but many on here cannot do it without slurs and a tendency of the "old school regulars" on first name terms to join forces and put the boot in. Put your silly flag away. Try standing on your own two feet.
Another little gem form Ai
Around 78% to 79% of people aged 65 and over in the UK own their own home.
• Outright Ownership: The vast majority of these older homeowners own their properties outright (around 74% of pensioner households have no mortgage remaining).
This means around 80% of people needing to pay £100 per month can cover it no bother at all .
Let debate. UK pensioners are loaded but hoarding asset value for fit youngsters that do not use the NHS much.
NHS woes? Blame the medical professional and the Senedd. No free up the massive asset values tied up in property kept for little Johnny. Average house price UK £280,000. Flats probably £150,,000.
[Post edited 6 Nov 22:35]
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Listen to me you patronising tw@t. I stand on my own two feet very well. Maybe you should have deduced by now that people say the same things to you because we all can see you for what you are.
You’ve answered nothing in your reply. You’ve not challenged my opinion (which is the main reason it is available in Wales) that free prescriptions reduce the burden on the NHS and prolong lives.
All you seem to go on about is how older people can afford it. Because they haven’t got a mortgage? A debt most have taken 25+ years of hard work and sacrifice to pay off.
And a £250000-00 house is meaningless as you can’t live off bricks and mortar. I suppose you’d have everyone selling their home to be able to afford medicines to keep them alive.
You’re an insufferable bore. Do us all a favour! |  |
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| Welsh NHS on 23:10 - Nov 6 with 0 views | max936 |
| Welsh NHS on 22:38 - Nov 6 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Get yourself off the NHS then . You are just a burden and taking up appointment time for the needy who from no fault of their own have no money. |
I know you are thick, but get this every time a working person goes to an NHS dentist they have to pay a fee towards their treatment or check up, you who knows everything, but who actually knows the square root of naff all, should know the above, I've been an NHS dental patient for longer than you've been a burden to the sheep you keep chasing.
You are just an attention seeking antagonistic nobody and posters including myself find you a poster that brings amusement to this forum, so keep amusing us all. |  | | |
| Welsh NHS on 23:36 - Nov 6 with 0 views | max936 |
| Welsh NHS on 22:50 - Nov 6 by union_jack |
Listen to me you patronising tw@t. I stand on my own two feet very well. Maybe you should have deduced by now that people say the same things to you because we all can see you for what you are.
You’ve answered nothing in your reply. You’ve not challenged my opinion (which is the main reason it is available in Wales) that free prescriptions reduce the burden on the NHS and prolong lives.
All you seem to go on about is how older people can afford it. Because they haven’t got a mortgage? A debt most have taken 25+ years of hard work and sacrifice to pay off.
And a £250000-00 house is meaningless as you can’t live off bricks and mortar. I suppose you’d have everyone selling their home to be able to afford medicines to keep them alive.
You’re an insufferable bore. Do us all a favour! |
Great post, it wasn't long along that he was bragging about moving into his new hovel and bragging about living and working in many countries and the shares he's got here there and everywhere and the dividends he earns from those shares and yet here he is trying to antagonise older people, but when you think about the above he's probably older than most of us.
He's just an attention seeking antagonistic bone head, and hasn't got the intelligence to realise that posters can see right through him. [Post edited 10 Nov 10:45]
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| Welsh NHS on 08:42 - Nov 7 with 0 views | Whiterockin |
The idiot can't see that the Senedd he continually backs is the one making the decisions regarding the NHS in Wales that he is complaining about. | | | |
| Welsh NHS on 11:48 - Nov 7 with 0 views | max936 |
| Welsh NHS on 08:42 - Nov 7 by Whiterockin |
The idiot can't see that the Senedd he continually backs is the one making the decisions regarding the NHS in Wales that he is complaining about. |
Exactly, but I refer you to the last sentence of my post above, that reminds me I must ring the dentist for an appointment on Monday morning, I probably will have to wait 6 weeks or more though, doh! | | | |
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| Welsh NHS on 11:54 - Nov 7 with 0 views | Whiterockin |
| Welsh NHS on 11:48 - Nov 7 by max936 |
Exactly, but I refer you to the last sentence of my post above, that reminds me I must ring the dentist for an appointment on Monday morning, I probably will have to wait 6 weeks or more though, doh! |
The more he posts the more people can see exactly how ridiculous his posts are. He is doing the valley community no favours as most are lovely intelligent people, but it only takes one bad apple. | | | |
| Welsh NHS on 12:08 - Nov 7 with 0 views | max936 |
| Welsh NHS on 11:54 - Nov 7 by Whiterockin |
The more he posts the more people can see exactly how ridiculous his posts are. He is doing the valley community no favours as most are lovely intelligent people, but it only takes one bad apple. |
I work up quite often and I never have a problem there, apart from parking which can be a nightmare in some streets and moreso when its raining with needs a couple of trips to van etc. | | | |
| Welsh NHS on 18:56 - Nov 8 with 0 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Welsh NHS on 23:36 - Nov 6 by max936 |
Great post, it wasn't long along that he was bragging about moving into his new hovel and bragging about living and working in many countries and the shares he's got here there and everywhere and the dividends he earns from those shares and yet here he is trying to antagonise older people, but when you think about the above he's probably older than most of us.
He's just an attention seeking antagonistic bone head, and hasn't got the intelligence to realise that posters can see right through him. [Post edited 10 Nov 10:45]
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I have got shares I have a house I pay tax. I put money in to a private pension. This is absolutely normal and nothing to brag about. I do not even see it as bragging. If people like me did not exists there would not even be an NHS. I pay an increasing amount of tax on my dividends and pension. Not once have I complained about it.
I told people I worked over seas and speak foreign language because the ex copper from the Wirral called me a "narrow minded farm boy" from the "narrow dark valley". Other called stupid. I have documents to prove I am not but do not want to BRAG.
A house is an asset with a cash value. Most elderly people have houses paid off. Many pensioners are cash poor living in a £250k+ house. There is no need to divert funds intended for NHS services to subsidise property owners £100 pcm while sitting on huge assets. UK is a banking nation and can easily loan pensioners money at a low rate and deduct NHS prescription fee debts as a form of inheritance tax.
"Oh look some one with ideas. Best to put a stop to that pdq!".
Inheritance tax is seen as a punitive tax on people who worked hard. It can be deducted to recover prescription charge SUBSIDIES. Free the money for SERVICES. £623m. Wales is not CUBA.
You have yet another personal attack on me on the thread that I started. The debate got fiery. This is a good thing . I do not attack you. I do not know your circumstances. I do not think Kieth wants me to walk away. POTY 2023. Ever considered you might be wrong ?
I skimmed over one or two posts from the flagmen to be honest. when it is you asking the question I will answer. [Post edited 8 Nov 19:02]
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| Welsh NHS on 19:57 - Nov 8 with 0 views | max936 |
| Welsh NHS on 18:56 - Nov 8 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I have got shares I have a house I pay tax. I put money in to a private pension. This is absolutely normal and nothing to brag about. I do not even see it as bragging. If people like me did not exists there would not even be an NHS. I pay an increasing amount of tax on my dividends and pension. Not once have I complained about it.
I told people I worked over seas and speak foreign language because the ex copper from the Wirral called me a "narrow minded farm boy" from the "narrow dark valley". Other called stupid. I have documents to prove I am not but do not want to BRAG.
A house is an asset with a cash value. Most elderly people have houses paid off. Many pensioners are cash poor living in a £250k+ house. There is no need to divert funds intended for NHS services to subsidise property owners £100 pcm while sitting on huge assets. UK is a banking nation and can easily loan pensioners money at a low rate and deduct NHS prescription fee debts as a form of inheritance tax.
"Oh look some one with ideas. Best to put a stop to that pdq!".
Inheritance tax is seen as a punitive tax on people who worked hard. It can be deducted to recover prescription charge SUBSIDIES. Free the money for SERVICES. £623m. Wales is not CUBA.
You have yet another personal attack on me on the thread that I started. The debate got fiery. This is a good thing . I do not attack you. I do not know your circumstances. I do not think Kieth wants me to walk away. POTY 2023. Ever considered you might be wrong ?
I skimmed over one or two posts from the flagmen to be honest. when it is you asking the question I will answer. [Post edited 8 Nov 19:02]
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"I have got shares I have a house I pay tax. I put money in to a private pension. This is absolutely normal and nothing to brag about. I do not even see it as bragging. If people like me did not exists there would not even be an NHS. I pay an increasing amount of tax on my dividends and pension. Not once have I complained about it."
Let me "INFORM YOU AGAIN" you are not unique, millions do exactly the same as you, we all pay OUR Taxes, I know that may surprise you ! | | | |
| Welsh NHS on 20:05 - Nov 8 with 0 views | max936 |
| Welsh NHS on 18:56 - Nov 8 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I have got shares I have a house I pay tax. I put money in to a private pension. This is absolutely normal and nothing to brag about. I do not even see it as bragging. If people like me did not exists there would not even be an NHS. I pay an increasing amount of tax on my dividends and pension. Not once have I complained about it.
I told people I worked over seas and speak foreign language because the ex copper from the Wirral called me a "narrow minded farm boy" from the "narrow dark valley". Other called stupid. I have documents to prove I am not but do not want to BRAG.
A house is an asset with a cash value. Most elderly people have houses paid off. Many pensioners are cash poor living in a £250k+ house. There is no need to divert funds intended for NHS services to subsidise property owners £100 pcm while sitting on huge assets. UK is a banking nation and can easily loan pensioners money at a low rate and deduct NHS prescription fee debts as a form of inheritance tax.
"Oh look some one with ideas. Best to put a stop to that pdq!".
Inheritance tax is seen as a punitive tax on people who worked hard. It can be deducted to recover prescription charge SUBSIDIES. Free the money for SERVICES. £623m. Wales is not CUBA.
You have yet another personal attack on me on the thread that I started. The debate got fiery. This is a good thing . I do not attack you. I do not know your circumstances. I do not think Kieth wants me to walk away. POTY 2023. Ever considered you might be wrong ?
I skimmed over one or two posts from the flagmen to be honest. when it is you asking the question I will answer. [Post edited 8 Nov 19:02]
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"You have yet another personal attack on me on the thread that I started. The debate got fiery. This is a good thing .
"I do not attack you."
What's this below then
"Get yourself off the NHS then . You are just a burden and taking up appointment time for the needy who from no fault of their own have no money." | | | |
| Welsh NHS on 22:15 - Nov 8 with 0 views | builthjack |
A lot on here would suffer if they charged for prescriptions. |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Welsh NHS on 23:05 - Nov 8 with 0 views | max936 |
| Welsh NHS on 22:15 - Nov 8 by builthjack |
A lot on here would suffer if they charged for prescriptions. |
I'm not on any medication so I'll be fine  | | | |
| Welsh NHS on 01:05 - Nov 10 with 0 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Welsh NHS on 20:05 - Nov 8 by max936 |
"You have yet another personal attack on me on the thread that I started. The debate got fiery. This is a good thing .
"I do not attack you."
What's this below then
"Get yourself off the NHS then . You are just a burden and taking up appointment time for the needy who from no fault of their own have no money." |
Its just a fact not an attack. I work and cannot e get an NHS dentist. Help the NHS and go private like me.
I pay about £250 for a filling and a polish.
People get very emotional about the NHS. It is struggling because it is underfunded by people getting drugs they can afford to pay for for free while being asset rich. | |
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| Welsh NHS on 07:12 - Nov 10 with 0 views | Whiterockin |
| Welsh NHS on 01:05 - Nov 10 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Its just a fact not an attack. I work and cannot e get an NHS dentist. Help the NHS and go private like me.
I pay about £250 for a filling and a polish.
People get very emotional about the NHS. It is struggling because it is underfunded by people getting drugs they can afford to pay for for free while being asset rich. |
The NHS in Wales is underperforming because it is badly run, just throwing more money at the problem is not the answer. Do you really think that if more money was put into Betsi Cadwaladr it would solve the systematic problems. The Senedd have already poured extra money into this health board to try and solve the problems and it didn't work as it went back into special measures. There are problems in the Welsh NHS over and above the problems of the UK on a whole. Neglecting the core problems for the last 27 years is the issue. As long as the people at the top are incompetent it will trickle down through the system. People are prepared to pay extra for things if they feel it is justified, people do not want to just throw money at a problem to see it wasted. | | | |
| Welsh NHS on 09:42 - Nov 10 with 0 views | max936 |
| Welsh NHS on 01:05 - Nov 10 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Its just a fact not an attack. I work and cannot e get an NHS dentist. Help the NHS and go private like me.
I pay about £250 for a filling and a polish.
People get very emotional about the NHS. It is struggling because it is underfunded by people getting drugs they can afford to pay for for free while being asset rich. |
Mind you own business.
"I pay about £250 for a filling and a polish" I couldn't care less about what you pay or you in general,
"People get very emotional about the NHS. It is struggling because it is underfunded by people getting drugs they can afford to pay for for free while being asset rich."
Again I couldn't CARELESS | | | |
| Welsh NHS on 09:46 - Nov 10 with 0 views | max936 |
| Welsh NHS on 07:12 - Nov 10 by Whiterockin |
The NHS in Wales is underperforming because it is badly run, just throwing more money at the problem is not the answer. Do you really think that if more money was put into Betsi Cadwaladr it would solve the systematic problems. The Senedd have already poured extra money into this health board to try and solve the problems and it didn't work as it went back into special measures. There are problems in the Welsh NHS over and above the problems of the UK on a whole. Neglecting the core problems for the last 27 years is the issue. As long as the people at the top are incompetent it will trickle down through the system. People are prepared to pay extra for things if they feel it is justified, people do not want to just throw money at a problem to see it wasted. |
Great post, but you're better off hitting your head against a brick wall than attempting to explain to someone that's so arrogant and deluded.
That reminds me, I still haven't rung my dentist, that's my next job on the list  | | | |
| Welsh NHS on 10:10 - Nov 10 with 0 views | Whiterockin |
| Welsh NHS on 09:46 - Nov 10 by max936 |
Great post, but you're better off hitting your head against a brick wall than attempting to explain to someone that's so arrogant and deluded.
That reminds me, I still haven't rung my dentist, that's my next job on the list |
That is why everyone knows him for exactly what he is. The more he posts the clearer it becomes. | | | |
| Welsh NHS on 10:21 - Nov 10 with 0 views | onehunglow |
| Welsh NHS on 20:05 - Nov 8 by max936 |
"You have yet another personal attack on me on the thread that I started. The debate got fiery. This is a good thing .
"I do not attack you."
What's this below then
"Get yourself off the NHS then . You are just a burden and taking up appointment time for the needy who from no fault of their own have no money." |
Narrow minded ? Yes
“ Farm Boy” Nah
Dark Valley Yes
Racist language ? Yes
Ex copper ? Yes
It’s great to be mentioned on dispatches
What did you do ?
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