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Rochdale 0 - 2 Lincoln City - Player Ratings and Reports on 19:34 - Dec 7 with 1817 views
Rochdale 0 - 2 Lincoln City - Player Ratings and Reports on 19:34 - Dec 7 by D_Dale
The votes do look odd - 4s and 5s for Dale players, 8s and 9s for Lincoln's. Is this why voting was blocked?
[Post edited 7 Dec 2020 21:55]
How was the voting blocked? As Chaff explained last week, that facility is automated by the website providers, so if there are any issues, it's down to them.
And, in the grand scheme of things, does it really matter?
It reminds me of someone at the club who used to proudly proclaim that a player we had let go "scored 8 in the Sunday People this week".
And?
[Post edited 7 Dec 2020 21:49]
If you don't know why your posts keep getting downvoted, there's no hope for you.
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Rochdale 0 - 2 Lincoln City - Player Ratings and Reports on 22:28 - Dec 7 with 1725 views
Rochdale 0 - 2 Lincoln City - Player Ratings and Reports on 21:40 - Dec 7 by TVOS1907
How was the voting blocked? As Chaff explained last week, that facility is automated by the website providers, so if there are any issues, it's down to them.
And, in the grand scheme of things, does it really matter?
It reminds me of someone at the club who used to proudly proclaim that a player we had let go "scored 8 in the Sunday People this week".
And?
[Post edited 7 Dec 2020 21:49]
I suppose potential but late votes were blocked, or locked out, by some technological process, rather than by one of the moderators. But I wondered why it had been done.
As a poster pointed out, there wasn't a chance to rate the players after the previous match, vs Plymouth. Had there been, I'd have expected 7s and 8s for most of the Dale players and 5s and 6s for Plymouth's.
A little surprising to read TVOS's question, about whether if really matters, as it came from someone who generally shows a scrupulous eye for accuracy. But, as someone said, 'Nothing really matters in the grand scheme of things; but then again, the grand scheme of things doesn’t really matter to me.'
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Rochdale 0 - 2 Lincoln City - Player Ratings and Reports on 22:48 - Dec 7 with 1703 views
Rochdale 0 - 2 Lincoln City - Player Ratings and Reports on 22:28 - Dec 7 by D_Dale
I suppose potential but late votes were blocked, or locked out, by some technological process, rather than by one of the moderators. But I wondered why it had been done.
As a poster pointed out, there wasn't a chance to rate the players after the previous match, vs Plymouth. Had there been, I'd have expected 7s and 8s for most of the Dale players and 5s and 6s for Plymouth's.
A little surprising to read TVOS's question, about whether if really matters, as it came from someone who generally shows a scrupulous eye for accuracy. But, as someone said, 'Nothing really matters in the grand scheme of things; but then again, the grand scheme of things doesn’t really matter to me.'
But what's accurate about them?
You might think, for example, that Humphrys is a 7; someone else might think he's a 5.
It's just each individual's opinion, which in some cases could be clouded by their nature to be overly critical or, in other cases, a "happy clapper", to coin a phrase.
Similar to ratings in the Sunday papers, whereby one journalist could give a player 5 and another could give him 6.
It's all subjective; there's nothing accurate about player ratings whatsoever.
The only accuracy comes from fact (e.g. Humphrys scored) rather than opinion (e.g. Humphrys played well/rubbish/indifferent).
[Post edited 7 Dec 2020 22:54]
If you don't know why your posts keep getting downvoted, there's no hope for you.
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Rochdale 0 - 2 Lincoln City - Player Ratings and Reports on 23:00 - Dec 7 with 1693 views
Rochdale 0 - 2 Lincoln City - Player Ratings and Reports on 22:48 - Dec 7 by TVOS1907
But what's accurate about them?
You might think, for example, that Humphrys is a 7; someone else might think he's a 5.
It's just each individual's opinion, which in some cases could be clouded by their nature to be overly critical or, in other cases, a "happy clapper", to coin a phrase.
Similar to ratings in the Sunday papers, whereby one journalist could give a player 5 and another could give him 6.
It's all subjective; there's nothing accurate about player ratings whatsoever.
The only accuracy comes from fact (e.g. Humphrys scored) rather than opinion (e.g. Humphrys played well/rubbish/indifferent).
[Post edited 7 Dec 2020 22:54]
I like to look at the ratings but mostly to see how the biases are rolling along. For instance Jimmy Ryan received terrible ratings until the Newcastle game and then became one of the favoured sons. I think there is a heard mentality when judging a players worth / role in a team. A slow start is hard to turn around in the eyes of the fans. Some players will just always be preferred to another. For instance I couldn’t envisage Tavares getting a higher rating than Baah, because of past performances and a reluctance to chance one’s opinion. But confirmation bias is part of our make up.
Rochdale 0 - 2 Lincoln City - Player Ratings and Reports on 09:44 - Dec 8 by jonahwhereru
I like to look at the ratings but mostly to see how the biases are rolling along. For instance Jimmy Ryan received terrible ratings until the Newcastle game and then became one of the favoured sons. I think there is a heard mentality when judging a players worth / role in a team. A slow start is hard to turn around in the eyes of the fans. Some players will just always be preferred to another. For instance I couldn’t envisage Tavares getting a higher rating than Baah, because of past performances and a reluctance to chance one’s opinion. But confirmation bias is part of our make up.
"I couldn’t envisage Tavares getting a higher rating than Baah"
Same... but that's because Baah is a better player!
Tangled up in blue.
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Rochdale 0 - 2 Lincoln City - Player Ratings and Reports on 10:01 - Dec 8 with 1564 views
Rochdale 0 - 2 Lincoln City - Player Ratings and Reports on 09:44 - Dec 8 by jonahwhereru
I like to look at the ratings but mostly to see how the biases are rolling along. For instance Jimmy Ryan received terrible ratings until the Newcastle game and then became one of the favoured sons. I think there is a heard mentality when judging a players worth / role in a team. A slow start is hard to turn around in the eyes of the fans. Some players will just always be preferred to another. For instance I couldn’t envisage Tavares getting a higher rating than Baah, because of past performances and a reluctance to chance one’s opinion. But confirmation bias is part of our make up.
Can't agree with the heard (sic) mentality although it may be true that some follow that course. You only have to note the frequency of "were you watching the same game as me?" posts
The main interest for me in ratings is being able to look back during the season to see which players have featured most prominently, via the Fixtures tab
Rochdale 0 - 2 Lincoln City - Player Ratings and Reports on 10:56 - Dec 8 by D_Alien
Can't agree with the heard (sic) mentality although it may be true that some follow that course. You only have to note the frequency of "were you watching the same game as me?" posts
The main interest for me in ratings is being able to look back during the season to see which players have featured most prominently, via the Fixtures tab
"Were you watching the same game as me" is another reason why the ratings are far from "accurate".
If you don't know why your posts keep getting downvoted, there's no hope for you.
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Rochdale 0 - 2 Lincoln City - Player Ratings and Reports on 15:16 - Dec 8 with 1394 views
Rochdale 0 - 2 Lincoln City - Player Ratings and Reports on 22:48 - Dec 7 by TVOS1907
But what's accurate about them?
You might think, for example, that Humphrys is a 7; someone else might think he's a 5.
It's just each individual's opinion, which in some cases could be clouded by their nature to be overly critical or, in other cases, a "happy clapper", to coin a phrase.
Similar to ratings in the Sunday papers, whereby one journalist could give a player 5 and another could give him 6.
It's all subjective; there's nothing accurate about player ratings whatsoever.
The only accuracy comes from fact (e.g. Humphrys scored) rather than opinion (e.g. Humphrys played well/rubbish/indifferent).
[Post edited 7 Dec 2020 22:54]
So you don't believe in the "wisdom of crowds"? What we should do is average the ratings over a month, a group of games or a season so that we can see which players are improving their performances and which aren't.
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Rochdale 0 - 2 Lincoln City - Player Ratings and Reports on 15:50 - Dec 8 with 1381 views
Rochdale 0 - 2 Lincoln City - Player Ratings and Reports on 15:16 - Dec 8 by 49thseason
So you don't believe in the "wisdom of crowds"? What we should do is average the ratings over a month, a group of games or a season so that we can see which players are improving their performances and which aren't.
We don't need to. We can just watch the games and decide for ourselves. It's not something that can be quantified by a spurious measure from 1-10.
One man's 7 is another man's 6.
Unless it's Match Facts from Match Weekly in the 1980s, as they were gospel!
If you don't know why your posts keep getting downvoted, there's no hope for you.
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Rochdale 0 - 2 Lincoln City - Player Ratings and Reports on 16:27 - Dec 8 with 1357 views
Rochdale 0 - 2 Lincoln City - Player Ratings and Reports on 15:16 - Dec 8 by 49thseason
So you don't believe in the "wisdom of crowds"? What we should do is average the ratings over a month, a group of games or a season so that we can see which players are improving their performances and which aren't.
But it's still not an exact science.
I remember when Lyon were the flavour of the month in European Football, their board at the time spoke a lot about how their transfer committee often looked to gather as many opinions as possible on a recommended signing citing 'Wisdom of the Crowds' as their inspiration. For a while, it worked.
Liverpool then tried to implement the same thing and ended up signing Christian Benteke and Lazar Markovic. They then changed the people on the committee around (notably Klopp for Rodgers but a few others too) and ended up bringing Firmino and Mane in the next two windows.
Tangled up in blue.
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Rochdale 0 - 2 Lincoln City - Player Ratings and Reports on 16:31 - Dec 8 with 1352 views
Rochdale 0 - 2 Lincoln City - Player Ratings and Reports on 15:50 - Dec 8 by TVOS1907
We don't need to. We can just watch the games and decide for ourselves. It's not something that can be quantified by a spurious measure from 1-10.
One man's 7 is another man's 6.
Unless it's Match Facts from Match Weekly in the 1980s, as they were gospel!
Or in some cases, one man's 5 is another man's 8 (according to which game they were watching!)
It's just a bit of added post-match interest, for those who can be bothered, which i think would hardly constitute a 'crowd'. And that's when the ratings come on stream in time, which as Chaff has been at pains to point out, is beyond the control of the mods
Rochdale 0 - 2 Lincoln City - Player Ratings and Reports on 16:31 - Dec 8 by D_Alien
Or in some cases, one man's 5 is another man's 8 (according to which game they were watching!)
It's just a bit of added post-match interest, for those who can be bothered, which i think would hardly constitute a 'crowd'. And that's when the ratings come on stream in time, which as Chaff has been at pains to point out, is beyond the control of the mods
Well I'm giving Chaff 6/10 for his moderating work.
If you don't know why your posts keep getting downvoted, there's no hope for you.
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Rochdale 0 - 2 Lincoln City - Player Ratings and Reports on 17:44 - Dec 8 with 1313 views
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