| Notts County being Notts County 23:42 - Dec 21 with 4522 views | 442Dale |
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| Notts County being Notts County on 23:51 - Dec 21 with 3902 views | D_Alien |
Currently 4 pts clear at the top of the National League
Now, what are the financial requirements for entry into the Football League? And do the EFL have a backbone?
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| Notts County being Notts County on 17:22 - Dec 22 with 3369 views | JimmySquirrel61 |
Notts are top of the league through hard work and dedication from the players, signing Langstaff was a masterstroke as he loves scoring (so I've heard)
Don't forget that was a victim of a con job back in the 2010/2011 season and are lucky to even exist,I'm looking forward to the return of Notts County to Spotland should they get promoted,it's Wrexham who are the villans of the National League as far as I can tell with their Mickey Mouse programme on Disney paying for league club players to drop leagues |  |
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| Notts County being Notts County on 17:47 - Dec 22 with 3318 views | James1980 |
| Notts County being Notts County on 17:22 - Dec 22 by JimmySquirrel61 |
Notts are top of the league through hard work and dedication from the players, signing Langstaff was a masterstroke as he loves scoring (so I've heard)
Don't forget that was a victim of a con job back in the 2010/2011 season and are lucky to even exist,I'm looking forward to the return of Notts County to Spotland should they get promoted,it's Wrexham who are the villans of the National League as far as I can tell with their Mickey Mouse programme on Disney paying for league club players to drop leagues |
And pray tell how much has been 'invested' in this 'hard work and dedication'? |  |
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| Notts County being Notts County on 18:01 - Dec 22 with 3296 views | 442Dale |
| Notts County being Notts County on 17:22 - Dec 22 by JimmySquirrel61 |
Notts are top of the league through hard work and dedication from the players, signing Langstaff was a masterstroke as he loves scoring (so I've heard)
Don't forget that was a victim of a con job back in the 2010/2011 season and are lucky to even exist,I'm looking forward to the return of Notts County to Spotland should they get promoted,it's Wrexham who are the villans of the National League as far as I can tell with their Mickey Mouse programme on Disney paying for league club players to drop leagues |
Sorry, are you saying those figures in the opening post are acceptable?
How is what Wrexham are doing seen as worse?
It was 09/10. And they weren’t victims, it’s just that too many of the supporters were perfectly happy to cheer a winning team at the top of the league without worrying too much about the finances.
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| Notts County being Notts County on 18:05 - Dec 22 with 3284 views | JimmySquirrel61 |
| Notts County being Notts County on 17:47 - Dec 22 by James1980 |
And pray tell how much has been 'invested' in this 'hard work and dedication'? |
The main debts that the Reedz brothers incurred was from the Trew and Hardy seasons, Hardy hid some of the debt when he sold the club and the brothers have done well to get it down to £1.7m tbh,they have publicly stated that they are happy with the club and the way that it's run, focus should be on Wrexham and their mental wage bill if any club are to have fingers pointed at them,Mullen is reputed to be on £7k a week | |
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| Notts County being Notts County on 18:11 - Dec 22 with 3263 views | JimmySquirrel61 |
| Notts County being Notts County on 18:01 - Dec 22 by 442Dale |
Sorry, are you saying those figures in the opening post are acceptable?
How is what Wrexham are doing seen as worse?
It was 09/10. And they weren’t victims, it’s just that too many of the supporters were perfectly happy to cheer a winning team at the top of the league without worrying too much about the finances.
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Of course those figures aren't acceptable but if the owners are doing their best in getting the debt down then there's no point in complaining,how many clubs are debt free anyhow,I can't see why Notts should be singled out | |
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| Notts County being Notts County on 18:14 - Dec 22 with 3256 views | 442Dale |
| Notts County being Notts County on 18:05 - Dec 22 by JimmySquirrel61 |
The main debts that the Reedz brothers incurred was from the Trew and Hardy seasons, Hardy hid some of the debt when he sold the club and the brothers have done well to get it down to £1.7m tbh,they have publicly stated that they are happy with the club and the way that it's run, focus should be on Wrexham and their mental wage bill if any club are to have fingers pointed at them,Mullen is reputed to be on £7k a week |
It’s ok, we’re perfectly able to see what’s going on at Wrexham. They’re being very open about it.Do I like it? No, but the owners appear fully invested in the project and the local community.
Meanwhile, Notts carry on like this and some have the audacity to talk about how other clubs are run.
Enlighten us, from those figures provided in the twitter link, how are the new owners doing well? Evidence please of this, not just off the cuff remarks about they’re happy with the way the club is run. Why does it matter if they are happy, are you and other Notts fans happy to have respected football analysts be critical of your club? [Post edited 22 Dec 2022 18:20]
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| Notts County being Notts County on 18:25 - Dec 22 with 3221 views | JimmySquirrel61 |
Ohhhh look at the size of that bait
Why are you still so angry 442,isn't it time that you moved on and got over the 2009/10 season? | |
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| Notts County being Notts County on 18:28 - Dec 22 with 3210 views | 442Dale |
| Notts County being Notts County on 18:25 - Dec 22 by JimmySquirrel61 |
Ohhhh look at the size of that bait
Why are you still so angry 442,isn't it time that you moved on and got over the 2009/10 season? |
Because we threw it away at the end. Irrespective of what Notts did, with their entire fan base wasting a season, we were clearly the best team in the division and our own collapse at the end took the shine off a bit.
Well done on getting the season right. | |
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| Notts County being Notts County on 18:50 - Dec 22 with 3158 views | JimmySquirrel61 |
| Notts County being Notts County on 18:28 - Dec 22 by 442Dale |
Because we threw it away at the end. Irrespective of what Notts did, with their entire fan base wasting a season, we were clearly the best team in the division and our own collapse at the end took the shine off a bit.
Well done on getting the season right. |
The 2009/2010 was a genuine error by me and I freely admit it,tbh nobody mentions much but you seem a bit obsessed by it and Notts,didn't Bournemouth finish above Dale in that season so there was obviously two clubs that was better than Dale, promotion is gained over a whole season not just the bit where you are doing well,all clubs go through a bad spell and by the sounds of it Dales was at the end of the season,would you like a hug maybe? [Post edited 22 Dec 2022 18:51]
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| Notts County being Notts County on 19:01 - Dec 22 with 3102 views | 442Dale |
| Notts County being Notts County on 18:50 - Dec 22 by JimmySquirrel61 |
The 2009/2010 was a genuine error by me and I freely admit it,tbh nobody mentions much but you seem a bit obsessed by it and Notts,didn't Bournemouth finish above Dale in that season so there was obviously two clubs that was better than Dale, promotion is gained over a whole season not just the bit where you are doing well,all clubs go through a bad spell and by the sounds of it Dales was at the end of the season,would you like a hug maybe? [Post edited 22 Dec 2022 18:51]
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That’s the point, we were far and away the best side and ended up third.
You brought that season up in this thread, if it hadn’t been, we wouldn’t have had to go into the on the field performances of various clubs. Always happy to address any footballing subjects raised though - it’d be wrong to ignore.
So, after deflecting to what Wrexham do and where teams finished over a decade ago, would you agree that selling Langstaff for a good fee in January would be the way to go? | |
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| Notts County being Notts County on 19:11 - Dec 22 with 3072 views | JimmySquirrel61 |
Hmmm... You started a thread titled Notts County being Notts County and it was obvious that you was referring to that season that's why I mentioned it
If Langstaff goes in January then it will be a lot harder to go up,he's been a pivotal goal scoring machine and he will be missed should he go,if he's still at Notts in May then he will definitely leave whether we get promoted or not | |
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| Notts County being Notts County on 19:23 - Dec 22 with 3044 views | TVOS1907 |
| Notts County being Notts County on 19:11 - Dec 22 by JimmySquirrel61 |
Hmmm... You started a thread titled Notts County being Notts County and it was obvious that you was referring to that season that's why I mentioned it
If Langstaff goes in January then it will be a lot harder to go up,he's been a pivotal goal scoring machine and he will be missed should he go,if he's still at Notts in May then he will definitely leave whether we get promoted or not |
We got told you weren't posting on here again.
Another one who always reverts to type. |  |
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| Notts County being Notts County on 19:35 - Dec 22 with 3022 views | JimmySquirrel61 |
Ahhh TVOS... I would have put money on you appearing,tbh I was sent a link to this thread and decided to put in my twopenneth as it was Notts related | |
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| Notts County being Notts County on 19:53 - Dec 22 with 2969 views | TVOS1907 |
| Notts County being Notts County on 19:35 - Dec 22 by JimmySquirrel61 |
Ahhh TVOS... I would have put money on you appearing,tbh I was sent a link to this thread and decided to put in my twopenneth as it was Notts related |
Cheers.
It's a Rochdale forum, so chances are Rochdale fans might comment. | |
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| Notts County being Notts County on 20:00 - Dec 22 with 2955 views | JimmySquirrel61 |
| Notts County being Notts County on 19:53 - Dec 22 by TVOS1907 |
Cheers.
It's a Rochdale forum, so chances are Rochdale fans might comment. |
When Notts are being slagged off then you can be sure that either 442 or TVOS will appear at sometime to join in  | |
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| Notts County being Notts County on 20:06 - Dec 22 with 2938 views | JimmySquirrel61 |
It just goes to show that you shouldn't believe all that you read on the internet then doesn't it  | |
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| Notts County being Notts County on 20:10 - Dec 22 with 2933 views | JimmySquirrel61 |
Well that's it from me,it was only a fleeting visit but I enjoyed the banter as usual,fingers crossed for a Notts promotion and a visit to Spotland next season,I've always had a soft spot for Dale you know that 
Ta ra me ducks | |
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| Notts County being Notts County on 20:15 - Dec 22 with 2932 views | RAFCBLUE |
Just going back to the OP. Doesn't it just show how broken football is in the long term?
There are 116 clubs in the top 5 division in England and I'd wager that not many of them are solvent or well run. Whatever you think about the National League there are some towns and cities in there with teams that represent those areas but then outside of that there is a big financial gulf below the National League.
If you look at the bottom end of League 2 where we are:
Gillingham FC (Gillingham Football Club Limited)
May 2021 accounts
Net assets - £1,228,339
Colchester United (Colchester United Football Club Limited)
June 2021 accounts
Net liabilites - (£28,395,505)
Hartlepool United (Hartlepool United Football Club Limited)
July 2021 accounts
Net liabilities - (£2,716,334)
Rochdale AFC (Rochdale Association Football Club Limited)
May 2021 accounts
Net assets - £1,501,843
Harrogate Town (Harrogate Town AFC Limited)
June 2021 accounts
Net liabilities - (£139,764)
Crawley Town (Crawley Town Football and Social Club Limited)
June 2021 accounts
Net liabilities - (£444,792)
Crewe (Crewe Alexandra Football Club Company Limited)
June 2021 accounts
Net liabilities - £(3,580,912)
Even those clubs with net assets struggle to make ends meet in the way the game is currently funded. Gillingham and us are not exactly what you would call flush.
The EFL might have shut the door on wrong 'uns taking over a club with a set of long rules and final signoff but financially football is in a right state.
If the people who support clubs struggle, clubs will struggle.
It's not just England either as Scotland's clubs are having the same issues:
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/nine-spfl-clubs-financial-distress- |  |
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| Notts County being Notts County on 20:35 - Dec 22 with 2900 views | 442Dale |
Football is indeed in a precarious place. But then again it was in the 70s and 80s too, especially at our level with dilapidated grounds and crowds dwindling to levels that made it almost impossible to see how clubs like Dale carried on.
But we did, and that’s the challenge we face now, albeit under different circumstances that involves a risk of relegation. We all hope not, we all want to move forward on and off the pitch, but we have to acknowledge the risks, where we can improve as a club and how we can do things differently going forward. Will it work? Who knows, but by involving a loyal fan base that appreciates how we can achieve without overspending, then there’s no reason why we can’t continue to defy the odds.
A common feature at other clubs, including some who have been discussed on here this week, is an inability to acknowledge mistakes, not listening to and not being transparent with supporters consistently and believing they know best. All too often the evidence at lower league level illustrates this is not the case. [Post edited 22 Dec 2022 20:45]
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| Notts County being Notts County on 21:04 - Dec 22 with 2842 views | blackdogblue |
| Notts County being Notts County on 20:15 - Dec 22 by RAFCBLUE |
Just going back to the OP. Doesn't it just show how broken football is in the long term?
There are 116 clubs in the top 5 division in England and I'd wager that not many of them are solvent or well run. Whatever you think about the National League there are some towns and cities in there with teams that represent those areas but then outside of that there is a big financial gulf below the National League.
If you look at the bottom end of League 2 where we are:
Gillingham FC (Gillingham Football Club Limited)
May 2021 accounts
Net assets - £1,228,339
Colchester United (Colchester United Football Club Limited)
June 2021 accounts
Net liabilites - (£28,395,505)
Hartlepool United (Hartlepool United Football Club Limited)
July 2021 accounts
Net liabilities - (£2,716,334)
Rochdale AFC (Rochdale Association Football Club Limited)
May 2021 accounts
Net assets - £1,501,843
Harrogate Town (Harrogate Town AFC Limited)
June 2021 accounts
Net liabilities - (£139,764)
Crawley Town (Crawley Town Football and Social Club Limited)
June 2021 accounts
Net liabilities - (£444,792)
Crewe (Crewe Alexandra Football Club Company Limited)
June 2021 accounts
Net liabilities - £(3,580,912)
Even those clubs with net assets struggle to make ends meet in the way the game is currently funded. Gillingham and us are not exactly what you would call flush.
The EFL might have shut the door on wrong 'uns taking over a club with a set of long rules and final signoff but financially football is in a right state.
If the people who support clubs struggle, clubs will struggle.
It's not just England either as Scotland's clubs are having the same issues:
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/nine-spfl-clubs-financial-distress- |
Great we have a plus assets RAFC…
Won’t do us much good unless results improve…
From what I have googled, NCFC’s owners have a Danish link, they might well bring home the bacon.. |  |
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| Notts County being Notts County on 09:27 - Dec 23 with 2523 views | Drigdale |
| Notts County being Notts County on 20:15 - Dec 22 by RAFCBLUE |
Just going back to the OP. Doesn't it just show how broken football is in the long term?
There are 116 clubs in the top 5 division in England and I'd wager that not many of them are solvent or well run. Whatever you think about the National League there are some towns and cities in there with teams that represent those areas but then outside of that there is a big financial gulf below the National League.
If you look at the bottom end of League 2 where we are:
Gillingham FC (Gillingham Football Club Limited)
May 2021 accounts
Net assets - £1,228,339
Colchester United (Colchester United Football Club Limited)
June 2021 accounts
Net liabilites - (£28,395,505)
Hartlepool United (Hartlepool United Football Club Limited)
July 2021 accounts
Net liabilities - (£2,716,334)
Rochdale AFC (Rochdale Association Football Club Limited)
May 2021 accounts
Net assets - £1,501,843
Harrogate Town (Harrogate Town AFC Limited)
June 2021 accounts
Net liabilities - (£139,764)
Crawley Town (Crawley Town Football and Social Club Limited)
June 2021 accounts
Net liabilities - (£444,792)
Crewe (Crewe Alexandra Football Club Company Limited)
June 2021 accounts
Net liabilities - £(3,580,912)
Even those clubs with net assets struggle to make ends meet in the way the game is currently funded. Gillingham and us are not exactly what you would call flush.
The EFL might have shut the door on wrong 'uns taking over a club with a set of long rules and final signoff but financially football is in a right state.
If the people who support clubs struggle, clubs will struggle.
It's not just England either as Scotland's clubs are having the same issues:
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/nine-spfl-clubs-financial-distress- |
Salford are losing £91k per week and have net liabilities of approx £20 million. At some point the class of 92 will stop the funding. | | | |
| Notts County being Notts County on 09:58 - Dec 23 with 2462 views | EllDale |
They got a setback this week when it was announced that plans to move from the Peninsular Stadium to the AJ Bell Stadium had fallen through.
That was imperative for them if they wanted to play in the championship.
It looks like the latter will now be purchased by the local council and the Salford rugby league club given a long lease. | | | |
| Notts County being Notts County on 14:42 - Dec 23 with 2234 views | BigKindo |
| Notts County being Notts County on 20:15 - Dec 22 by RAFCBLUE |
Just going back to the OP. Doesn't it just show how broken football is in the long term?
There are 116 clubs in the top 5 division in England and I'd wager that not many of them are solvent or well run. Whatever you think about the National League there are some towns and cities in there with teams that represent those areas but then outside of that there is a big financial gulf below the National League.
If you look at the bottom end of League 2 where we are:
Gillingham FC (Gillingham Football Club Limited)
May 2021 accounts
Net assets - £1,228,339
Colchester United (Colchester United Football Club Limited)
June 2021 accounts
Net liabilites - (£28,395,505)
Hartlepool United (Hartlepool United Football Club Limited)
July 2021 accounts
Net liabilities - (£2,716,334)
Rochdale AFC (Rochdale Association Football Club Limited)
May 2021 accounts
Net assets - £1,501,843
Harrogate Town (Harrogate Town AFC Limited)
June 2021 accounts
Net liabilities - (£139,764)
Crawley Town (Crawley Town Football and Social Club Limited)
June 2021 accounts
Net liabilities - (£444,792)
Crewe (Crewe Alexandra Football Club Company Limited)
June 2021 accounts
Net liabilities - £(3,580,912)
Even those clubs with net assets struggle to make ends meet in the way the game is currently funded. Gillingham and us are not exactly what you would call flush.
The EFL might have shut the door on wrong 'uns taking over a club with a set of long rules and final signoff but financially football is in a right state.
If the people who support clubs struggle, clubs will struggle.
It's not just England either as Scotland's clubs are having the same issues:
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/nine-spfl-clubs-financial-distress- |
Not looking too good at Colchester. |  | | |
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