| Election result thread 06:15 - May 8 with 8955 views | D_Alien |
Just off to bed. Taken a day's leave and stopped up all night - what a saddo I am!
As it stands, it's looking like there might be a very slim overall majority for David Cameron - oddly enough, quite a difficult scenario in which to govern and rather more uncomfortable than the big majority he had during the coalition. Ulster Unionists possibly holding the balance of power.
Pleased to see an increased turnout, with Danczuk back in Rochdale with an increased majority, largely (as throughout the UK) at the expense of the Liberal Democrats.
Interesting times ahead, with both Scotland and Ulster having increased leverage over events at Westminster. |  |
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| Election result thread on 06:21 - May 8 with 4494 views | isitme |
Sinn Fien have 4 seats that they don't take up. So the predicted 325 seats would give a narrow but effective majority without having to form an alliance with DUP.
Glad Galloway lost his seat. Rumour has it Balls will as well. |  | | |
| Election result thread on 07:16 - May 8 with 4434 views | mingthemerciless |
That's a terrible result for the Country in general and the North and Rochdale in particular. We'll just be left to wither on the vine and the decay of the town will continue remorselessly. The Tories managed to sell the " big lie " that the last Labour Government was responsible for the global crisis and ensuring financial meltdown to the electorate. The Nom -Dom owned Tory press was shameless in it's determination to get their own way and it looks like they've succeeded. |  | | |
| Election result thread on 07:47 - May 8 with 4383 views | zxcvbnm |
If you break it down the Lib Dems jumping into bed with the Tories 5 years ago has actually won this election for the Tories.
The Lib Dem seats where the Tories were second 25 or so have mostly switched which means virtually a majority.
The only good thing is UKIP haven’t won very much |  |
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| Election result thread on 08:04 - May 8 with 4345 views | TalkingSutty |
| Election result thread on 07:16 - May 8 by mingthemerciless |
That's a terrible result for the Country in general and the North and Rochdale in particular. We'll just be left to wither on the vine and the decay of the town will continue remorselessly. The Tories managed to sell the " big lie " that the last Labour Government was responsible for the global crisis and ensuring financial meltdown to the electorate. The Nom -Dom owned Tory press was shameless in it's determination to get their own way and it looks like they've succeeded. |
So to summarise, the Great British public aren't capable of thinking for themselves? They obviously are and weren't suckered into opinion polls etc, credit people with a bit of intelligence. |  | | |
| Election result thread on 08:05 - May 8 with 4343 views | KenBoon |
The tricolore look of Great Britain won't be too healthy for the North, especially as the population in the South East will continue to grow faster than anywhere else. I suspect we'll be stuck between the nationalist Scotland and the Tory party looking after their traditional voters. Not to worry though, we're getting a POWER HOUSE of cities, rather than Liverpool, Manchester, Leeds, Newcastle, Sheffield all getting real support to grow beyond call centres, credit cards and city centre apartments.
+1 for Galloway losing. |  | | |
| Election result thread on 08:14 - May 8 with 4319 views | joecooke |
| Election result thread on 07:47 - May 8 by zxcvbnm |
If you break it down the Lib Dems jumping into bed with the Tories 5 years ago has actually won this election for the Tories.
The Lib Dem seats where the Tories were second 25 or so have mostly switched which means virtually a majority.
The only good thing is UKIP haven’t won very much |
UKIP didnt win very much,but did get 3 and a half million votes which says something. |  |
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| Election result thread on 08:19 - May 8 with 4307 views | off2div1 |
My MP is a tory woman(sounds like a bimbo) ED BALLS lost by 400 votes [Post edited 8 May 2015 8:22]
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| Election result thread on 08:31 - May 8 with 4268 views | mingthemerciless |
| Election result thread on 08:04 - May 8 by TalkingSutty |
So to summarise, the Great British public aren't capable of thinking for themselves? They obviously are and weren't suckered into opinion polls etc, credit people with a bit of intelligence. |
Unfortunately not enough people can see beyond the daily barrage of Tory propaganda served up by the likes of the Sun and the Mail, Express etc. Funnily enough non of the owners of these papers feel attached enough to the UK to actually live here. | | | |
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| Election result thread on 08:51 - May 8 with 4228 views | mingthemerciless |
Just heard one bit of good news- the loathsome Esther McVey has lost her seat. | | | |
| Election result thread on 09:21 - May 8 with 4175 views | PotterDale |
| Election result thread on 08:51 - May 8 by mingthemerciless |
Just heard one bit of good news- the loathsome Esther McVey has lost her seat. |
You've spelt Ed Balls wrong there, and he's male not female. |  | | |
| Election result thread on 09:27 - May 8 with 4161 views | Bobbyjoe |
| Election result thread on 08:31 - May 8 by mingthemerciless |
Unfortunately not enough people can see beyond the daily barrage of Tory propaganda served up by the likes of the Sun and the Mail, Express etc. Funnily enough non of the owners of these papers feel attached enough to the UK to actually live here. |
Thank goodness for intelligent, independently-minded people like you. | | | |
| Election result thread on 09:28 - May 8 with 4157 views | ColDale |
Few observations having also done the all nighter
* The Scotland switch is huge for Scotland but has little impact on the actual result. Had everyone of them gone for Labour, we'd still be talking the same overall scenario. Arguably, this result is bigger for Scottish independence than a Yes vote would have been. Maybe not in the short term where the much larger number of MP's have no say, but five years of being in opposition will only see them remain there. Would appear Salmond was holding them back all those years.
* Ashdown might need an extra hat after taking an even bigger kicking that predicted in the exit poll. Clegg will no doubt have to call it a day but all possible replacements have been voted out so perhaps he'll keep the job through default. Will take them a generation to recover from this, and I think they can only hope to get it right locally before impacting nationally.
* Cameron will have the biggest grin ever today. Forget what was said publically, this result would have been beyond his wildest dreams. Don't know whether it's been tactical but the rise of UKIP hasn't hit them like I expected. Was expecting Tory MP's to lose their seat as UKIP took a few thousand votes off them but that doesn't seem to have happened. At first glance, it might be that their rise might have hit Labour more than its hit Tory.
* Never been Ed's biggest fan, but the press treatment of him in recent weeks has been the most awful and negative press campaigning that I've ever known, with a great deal of it completely irrelevant to the election. Unfortunately, much of his campaigning has been aimed at appeasing the traditional Tory press. That may have worked for Blair but he charmed them rather than danced to their tune like Ed has done.
* Do the opinion polls mirror those of 92 where people didn't want to admit to voting Tory? But if that was the case, surely exit polls would reflect this too.
* A tiny Tory majority might almost see it like they are in coalition with some of their back bench fossils who will have the power to prevent legislation going through unless it suits them. Whisper it quietly, but a larger Tory majority might be better than one that has to kowtow to the John Redwoods of this world. |  | | |
| Election result thread on 10:21 - May 8 with 4063 views | tazzydjr |
heartbreaking seeing the UK almost blue with the snp's colour's at top nothing will change Cameron will carry on making his rich friends richer not follow through on any of the said promises but it were nice to see Nick traitor Clegg's friends lose their seats bet he regrets not standing up to Cameron when he tripled Uni fee's |  |
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| Election result thread on 10:37 - May 8 with 4038 views | mingthemerciless |
| Election result thread on 09:28 - May 8 by ColDale |
Few observations having also done the all nighter
* The Scotland switch is huge for Scotland but has little impact on the actual result. Had everyone of them gone for Labour, we'd still be talking the same overall scenario. Arguably, this result is bigger for Scottish independence than a Yes vote would have been. Maybe not in the short term where the much larger number of MP's have no say, but five years of being in opposition will only see them remain there. Would appear Salmond was holding them back all those years.
* Ashdown might need an extra hat after taking an even bigger kicking that predicted in the exit poll. Clegg will no doubt have to call it a day but all possible replacements have been voted out so perhaps he'll keep the job through default. Will take them a generation to recover from this, and I think they can only hope to get it right locally before impacting nationally.
* Cameron will have the biggest grin ever today. Forget what was said publically, this result would have been beyond his wildest dreams. Don't know whether it's been tactical but the rise of UKIP hasn't hit them like I expected. Was expecting Tory MP's to lose their seat as UKIP took a few thousand votes off them but that doesn't seem to have happened. At first glance, it might be that their rise might have hit Labour more than its hit Tory.
* Never been Ed's biggest fan, but the press treatment of him in recent weeks has been the most awful and negative press campaigning that I've ever known, with a great deal of it completely irrelevant to the election. Unfortunately, much of his campaigning has been aimed at appeasing the traditional Tory press. That may have worked for Blair but he charmed them rather than danced to their tune like Ed has done.
* Do the opinion polls mirror those of 92 where people didn't want to admit to voting Tory? But if that was the case, surely exit polls would reflect this too.
* A tiny Tory majority might almost see it like they are in coalition with some of their back bench fossils who will have the power to prevent legislation going through unless it suits them. Whisper it quietly, but a larger Tory majority might be better than one that has to kowtow to the John Redwoods of this world. |
That's a pretty fair analysis Col Dale. I can't argue with much of what you've written. | | | |
| Election result thread on 10:56 - May 8 with 4005 views | Shun |
I based my vote 90% on each party's plans for the NHS - an establishment I work in and care about immensely. The Conservatives' plans seemed the least appealing by some way, so I'm not too happy. |  | | |
| Election result thread on 11:06 - May 8 with 3985 views | PotterDale |
| Election result thread on 10:21 - May 8 by tazzydjr |
heartbreaking seeing the UK almost blue with the snp's colour's at top nothing will change Cameron will carry on making his rich friends richer not follow through on any of the said promises but it were nice to see Nick traitor Clegg's friends lose their seats bet he regrets not standing up to Cameron when he tripled Uni fee's |
Heartbreaking for shiftless layabouts, yes. | | | |
| Election result thread on 11:28 - May 8 with 3936 views | sandylaner1 |
see you later nigel 
pleased for scotland. draw a line at manchester and let northern england join you?
the end result is an embarrassment though, thinking of the great NHS today |  | | |
| Election result thread on 11:31 - May 8 with 3930 views | D_Alien |
| Election result thread on 10:56 - May 8 by Shun |
I based my vote 90% on each party's plans for the NHS - an establishment I work in and care about immensely. The Conservatives' plans seemed the least appealing by some way, so I'm not too happy. |
I understand where you're coming from Shun, but do you therefore disagree with the government's policy of implementing DevoManc - the joint health and social care economy in Greater Manchester? Labour would've reversed it.
So do you think it's a good idea, or not? | |
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| Election result thread on 11:53 - May 8 with 3857 views | DomDale |
| Election result thread on 11:31 - May 8 by D_Alien |
I understand where you're coming from Shun, but do you therefore disagree with the government's policy of implementing DevoManc - the joint health and social care economy in Greater Manchester? Labour would've reversed it.
So do you think it's a good idea, or not? |
I wait with antic how the DevoManc will work. Hopefully it improves things. I'm not very happy with the state of play at the mo. My local ambulance station has now closed nearest one 4 miles away. If i need emergency assistance I will get sent to Bury or Oldham (fingers crossed I'm not dying or I'm knackered). For less urgent ailments I am still likely to get sent out of town. My dad's recently injured his foot and has to be treated at Oldham some 10 miles away. He can't drive at the moment or walk. This isn't a specialist job, it's dressing a wound but apparently it can't happen locally. If the NHS locally is as poor as it is now in 5 years will those who have voted Tory with the NHS in their best interest admit they were wrong? |  |
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| Election result thread on 12:02 - May 8 with 3832 views | D_Alien |
| Election result thread on 11:53 - May 8 by DomDale |
I wait with antic how the DevoManc will work. Hopefully it improves things. I'm not very happy with the state of play at the mo. My local ambulance station has now closed nearest one 4 miles away. If i need emergency assistance I will get sent to Bury or Oldham (fingers crossed I'm not dying or I'm knackered). For less urgent ailments I am still likely to get sent out of town. My dad's recently injured his foot and has to be treated at Oldham some 10 miles away. He can't drive at the moment or walk. This isn't a specialist job, it's dressing a wound but apparently it can't happen locally. If the NHS locally is as poor as it is now in 5 years will those who have voted Tory with the NHS in their best interest admit they were wrong? |
DomDale, all those events within the NHS are due to demographic issues - an increasing survival into old age and the rise of clinical obesity and it's attendant problems amongst the younger generations - exacerbated by the shortage of senior doctors and surgeons with the right skills to be able to provide the excellent care we all deserve in every single locality.
Believe me, when I started out in the NHS in Rochdale hospitals, the standards of care (and I mean in general, not by individuals) was in some cases appalling, and would be a national scandal nowadays. Those doctors simply aren't available through policies undertaken by successive governments, including Labour who took the heart out of general practice by reducing GPs hours and commitments to 24/7 care, thus increasing the already overstretched pressure on acute services. The Conservatives campaigned on the promise to restore that level of care, and the plans are underway for it to happen. It's those combination of factors that've led to the situation you describe. The NHS is incredibly complex - I've said this before, and the treatments that are becoming available through advances in research and technology can ONLY be afforded by a strong economy. That prospect would've been utterly destroyed had Labour succeeded during this campaign. Thank your lucky stars they didn't.
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| Election result thread on 12:45 - May 8 with 3744 views | mingthemerciless |
| Election result thread on 11:31 - May 8 by D_Alien |
I understand where you're coming from Shun, but do you therefore disagree with the government's policy of implementing DevoManc - the joint health and social care economy in Greater Manchester? Labour would've reversed it.
So do you think it's a good idea, or not? |
I have grave doubts about Devo - Manc in spite of the local Labour Party big wigs being in favour of it. " Beware of Tories bearing gifts " is my take on it. | | | |
| Election result thread on 13:01 - May 8 with 3711 views | D_Alien |
| Election result thread on 12:45 - May 8 by mingthemerciless |
I have grave doubts about Devo - Manc in spite of the local Labour Party big wigs being in favour of it. " Beware of Tories bearing gifts " is my take on it. |
So you'd prefer the NHS and social care in Greater Manchester to be run from Whitehall?
It's not just about funding btw, but the crucial linking of care across the acute and primary care sectors, massively impacted by the way in which social services liaise with healthcare professionals and vice versa.
That's what's on offer. Do you disagree with that model? | |
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| Election result thread on 13:13 - May 8 with 3672 views | tazzydjr |
Tories will probably cut oxygen next just to give it to their rich friends, there will be even more lay offs in the public sector because of Tory cuts, even more Jobs will be privatized most of the current tories private sector jobs will require Uni degree's which majority of the country don't even have unemployment will increase to 21% maybe more this will probably be smoke-screened to the general public and covered up even masked up with the Work Programme & Courses which then the Tories will claim they've lowed unemployment when in reality their cuts will cause biggest lay offs this country has ever seen since the double-dip recession it might look good right now their will be more blood on the tories hands than there were during 2010-2015
Welcome to 5 More Years of Hell [Post edited 8 May 2015 13:23]
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| Election result thread on 13:20 - May 8 with 3656 views | olympicdale |
Terrible to think the Tory pricks will be leading the country for another 5 years, ah well, at least there are thousands of new jobs being available eh Mr Cameron.
The Danczuk's are a joke, but it was sadly only a one horse race, Interesting to see UKIP getting almost double of the LD's, been a total car crash for them, as expected. |  |
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| Election result thread on 13:29 - May 8 with 3621 views | PotterDale |
High points of the night/morning
Balls
Murphy
Douglas Alexander
Galloway
Miliband and Harperson standing down (although I'd have kept them, because they were so inept)
Low points
Not backing Balls to lose as I did at the last election!
Danczuk (It means at least another 4 years of "classy" Karen and their self serving ways)
Dromey (but I suppose you can't have Judy without Punch) | | | |
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