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Joe Rodon 22:48 - Aug 8 with 15891 views

Agreed to join Leeds on a season long loan

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Joe Rodon on 18:20 - Aug 9 with 1622 views

ReslovenSwan1

i noticed last night a very sharp turn of speed as he surged forward In the second half Swansea got a bit sloppy but always had the pace to correct for errors.

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Joe Rodon on 18:31 - Aug 9 with 1611 views

SullutaCreturned

Joe Rodon on 16:42 - Aug 9 by onehunglow
Opinions eh. Rodon Fully fledged full international .

So are Chris Gunter and Vinnie Jones, it doesn't mean that much.

Very few Welsh players make it into great club sides. Plenty of below average players play for countries.

Rodon is a good player, but great? You have to earn greatness and he hasn't yet. Giggs, John Charles and Bale earned greatness, Rodon has a long way to go.

Joe Rodon on 22:36 - Aug 9 with 1505 views

KeithHaynes

Joe Rodon on 16:42 - Aug 9 by onehunglow
Opinions eh. Rodon Fully fledged full international .

If he was English or even Scottish he wouldn’t be.

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Joe Rodon on 00:34 - Aug 10 with 1442 views

RichardO

Joe Rodon on 22:36 - Aug 9 by KeithHaynes
If he was English or even Scottish he wouldn’t be.

Would his career progressed a bit better if he stayed with us a little long but then again I suppose his bank balance isn't too bad and it helped ours.
Shame he couldn't push on with Spurs and take the place of an English International who was moved to a defensive midfield role because he wasn't good enough as a Premier league central defender and then moved back into defence unsuccessfully by a number of Spurs managers leaving them weak at the back. Eric Dier.
Hope he doesn't end up being the defender Leeds need at the expense of Swansea season's ambitions.
But conversely want to see a Swansea boy do well.

[Post edited 10 Aug 2023 0:43]

Joe Rodon on 01:30 - Aug 10 with 1427 views

Kilkennyjack

Joe Rodon on 14:53 - Aug 9 by ItchySphincter
It’s an opinion and mine is that Nathan Wood is certainly not a class above Joe Rodon, and the suggestion that he is is laughable. Personally I don’t see Rodon as a top player but he’s twice the footballer that Wood is. My opinion is subject to change depending on whether or not Wood actually does anything in future, but at this point reports of his greatness are grossly exaggerated.

And you are obviously correct.

Their respective bank balances will tell you that.

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Joe Rodon on 01:33 - Aug 10 with 1424 views

Kilkennyjack

Joe Rodon on 22:36 - Aug 9 by KeithHaynes
If he was English or even Scottish he wouldn’t be.

Joe would get 100 caps for Scotland as a CB.

The days of Alan Hanson have long gone.

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Joe Rodon on 02:08 - Aug 10 with 1421 views

Kilkennyjack

Joe Rodon on 18:31 - Aug 9 by SullutaCreturned
So are Chris Gunter and Vinnie Jones, it doesn't mean that much. Very few Welsh players make it into great club sides. Plenty of below average players play for countries. Rodon is a good player, but great? You have to earn greatness and he hasn't yet. Giggs, John Charles and Bale earned greatness, Rodon has a long way to go.

Only you have used the word great.
OHL is correct.

Many welsh players have played for great club sides.
As well as the world class 3 you mention, then the following did more than ok …

Medwin and Cliffy Jones - Spurs double winners
Rush - Liverpool - won the European Cup in 1984, the title 5 times and a European Golden Boot winner.
Hughes - man utd - premier leagues, European cup winners cup winner, fa cups x3
Tosh - liverpool - 3 times prem and European Cup winner
Joey Jones - liverpool - 2 European cups
Ratcliffe - everton - 2 league winners, fa cup, uefa cup winner
Southall - everton - 2 leagues, 2 fa cups, uefa cu winner
Speedo - leeds united - league winner
Hartson - celtic - 3 x league winner, 2 x cup winner
Mike England - spurs - fa cup and league cup
Sprake - leeds - league winner
Rambo - arsenal and juve - italian league and cup winner, 3x fa cup winner
Yorath - leeds - league winner

Many great club sides there, and healthy welsh involvement.
I am sure there are many more.

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Joe Rodon on 06:10 - Aug 10 with 1393 views

felixstowe_jack

Joe Rodon on 02:08 - Aug 10 by Kilkennyjack

Not sure I would call Hartson a great winning trophies in a poor Scottish league is not much of an achievement.

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Joe Rodon on 06:20 - Aug 10 with 1398 views

Joesus_Of_Narbereth

Joe Rodon on 01:33 - Aug 10 by Kilkennyjack
Joe would get 100 caps for Scotland as a CB. The days of Alan Hanson have long gone.

Alan Hansen hardly ever played for Scotland.

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Joe Rodon on 07:20 - Aug 10 with 1384 views

builthjack

Joe Rodon on 06:20 - Aug 10 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth
Alan Hansen hardly ever played for Scotland.

He fell out with a few Scottish managers, and would often do a Giggs and make himself unavailable for them due to a runny nose.

Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.

Joe Rodon on 07:31 - Aug 10 with 1382 views

RichardO

Joe Rodon on 07:20 - Aug 10 by builthjack
He fell out with a few Scottish managers, and would often do a Giggs and make himself unavailable for them due to a runny nose.

Nah! Willie Miller kept him out of the team because he was a better player and proving it in the Scottish league system.

Joe Rodon on 08:12 - Aug 10 with 1356 views

jojaca

I think Joe is a classic case of youngsters at an early age not getting enough league football. For his age and ability, he should have clocked another 100+ games by now.

[Post edited 10 Aug 2023 8:13]

Even when you know, you never know?

Joe Rodon on 08:23 - Aug 10 with 1351 views

whiterock

Joe Rodon on 14:23 - Aug 9 by ReslovenSwan1

I do not like Joe's body language, He facial expression is one of whinging and complaint. Cabango always looks tougher. I like a stern look of no compromise from centre backs. Not a look of "i am having another bad day".

Winter did a great job getting £11m with £4m add ons. Not much chance of those. I know it is not allowed to say anything good about winter on here. I keep testing the narratives.

[Post edited 9 Aug 2023 18:17]

Winter was a lot better than people give him credit, some say he was anonymous, yet we had 18 months of Covid and did do a few fans forums when allowed, he steadied the ship but was always swimming against the tide.

Joe Rodon on 09:12 - Aug 10 with 1321 views

KeithHaynes

Joe Rodon on 01:33 - Aug 10 by Kilkennyjack
Joe would get 100 caps for Scotland as a CB. The days of Alan Hanson have long gone.

We will have to disagree on this one, he was a reserve at Spurs and as soon as a player moves into Europe at the level he was at they are forgotten.

Moved too soon and left too many opportunities to make great memories aside which was a huge gamble, which for me hasn’t paid off.

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Joe Rodon on 09:15 - Aug 10 with 1318 views

raynor94

Joe Rodon on 09:12 - Aug 10 by KeithHaynes
We will have to disagree on this one, he was a reserve at Spurs and as soon as a player moves into Europe at the level he was at they are forgotten. Moved too soon and left too many opportunities to make great memories aside which was a huge gamble, which for me hasn’t paid off.

He only managed 16 appearances for Rennes last season.

Should have played far more for a player of his age

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Joe Rodon on 11:38 - Aug 10 with 1276 views

jasper_T

Joe Rodon on 08:12 - Aug 10 by jojaca
I think Joe is a classic case of youngsters at an early age not getting enough league football. For his age and ability, he should have clocked another 100+ games by now. [Post edited 10 Aug 2023 8:13]

The glass ceiling of the PL as Potter called it. Rodon, DJ and Roberts all had to wait until their twenties to start playing men's football. No interest in blooding our home grown youngsters post-Laudrup (who not only picked out Davies but also had Sheehan with the group until all the injuries closed the window for him).

Joe Rodon on 12:41 - Aug 10 with 1231 views

ReslovenSwan1

Joe Rodon on 09:15 - Aug 10 by raynor94
He only managed 16 appearances for Rennes last season. Should have played far more for a player of his age

He played a lot before Christmas and was praised by the manager after that.. 22 games with cup matches.

I got the feeling that there my have been a 'loan to buy deal' in the arrangement which might have been too rich for the French.

For example obligation to buy after 25 games for £8m. (Something like that). This explained his absence after Christmas while playing very well.

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Joe Rodon on 14:45 - Aug 10 with 1170 views

SullutaCreturned

Joe Rodon on 02:08 - Aug 10 by Kilkennyjack

Is a TOP player not a great player then? It's just semantics.

You have managed to name 13 players who with my 3 makes 16, is that all in over 100 years of Welsh football?

No it's not, there will be some thers but Wales is a small country and we will not produce MANY top players, there have been more great club sides than great Welsh players.

Joe Rodon on 16:40 - Aug 10 with 1132 views

jasper_T

Joe Rodon on 12:41 - Aug 10 by ReslovenSwan1
He played a lot before Christmas and was praised by the manager after that.. 22 games with cup matches. I got the feeling that there my have been a 'loan to buy deal' in the arrangement which might have been too rich for the French. For example obligation to buy after 25 games for £8m. (Something like that). This explained his absence after Christmas while playing very well.

They had an option to buy of 20m euros.

Joe Rodon on 16:47 - Aug 10 with 1115 views

Badlands

Joe Rodon on 02:08 - Aug 10 by Kilkennyjack

Davies .. Swansea & Spurs
I have never considered Rodon as anything more than a good Championship CB. Shows how hype can inflate a price.

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Joe Rodon on 17:04 - Aug 10 with 1096 views

pencoedjack

Joe Rodon on 22:36 - Aug 9 by KeithHaynes
If he was English or even Scottish he wouldn’t be.

If he wasn’t Welsh he’d be crap.

Joe Rodon on 18:00 - Aug 10 with 1060 views

lifelong

Bloody hell, there’s some people on his forum with some serious issues about anything to do with Wales…it’s very odd.

Joe Rodon on 18:12 - Aug 10 with 1052 views

KeithHaynes

Joe Rodon on 18:00 - Aug 10 by lifelong
Bloody hell, there’s some people on his forum with some serious issues about anything to do with Wales…it’s very odd.

Personally I tend to concentrate on the ability of the player regardless of their nationality.

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Joe Rodon on 18:30 - Aug 10 with 1039 views

raynor94

Joe Rodon on 18:00 - Aug 10 by lifelong
Bloody hell, there’s some people on his forum with some serious issues about anything to do with Wales…it’s very odd.

Nothing to do with his nationality, personally don't think he's that good

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Joe Rodon on 18:53 - Aug 10 with 998 views

SullutaCreturned

Joe Rodon on 18:30 - Aug 10 by raynor94
Nothing to do with his nationality, personally don't think he's that good

I think he could be better than he is but he made a bad choice, went to the big club before he was ready, just like Dan james.

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