| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Lincoln on 11:52 - Dec 6 with 1856 views | Nigeriamark |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Lincoln on 11:22 - Dec 6 by TVOS1907 |
Good question.
Games in the 80s probably weren't more exciting than a lot of games since, but it's that nostalgia thing, where we hanker for something from the past because it was 'better'.
I preferred the experience of going to games back then, but probably because I was a naive youth without years of life and football experience behind me.
There have been many more successes and enjoyable games in, say, the last 14 years (from the start of the Hillcroft era) than in the 24 years I'd watched before then, but I strangely recall incidents and games from the 1980s and 1990s more readily.
There will come a time, Shun, in about 30 years, where you will be asked the same thing about the current era and the Hillcroft times and it's probably only then that you'll understand where we're coming from.
In a lot of my research for TVOS, I read up on Dale games from the 60s and 70s and wish I'd been there, even the disastrous 1973/74 campaign.
Fans who started then probably wish they'd seen some of the 50s, and so on.
To get a sense of what we experienced in the 80s, you really need to read some of Daniel Gray's excellent books. He's just brought out a new one so I've written to Father Christmas for a copy.
Also, the 'Got, Not Got' series of books are excellent.
You can find them here:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Black-Boots-Football-Pinks-Beautiful/dp/1472958861/ref=
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Got-Not-Z-Treasures-Pleasures/dp/1908051140/ref=sr_1_5? |
Your right about remembering specific games
I think we had gone about 18 months without an away win and went to Blackpool. Their keeper got injured in the warm up & could hardly move the whole game yet we didn't register a decent effort in 80 minutes. Then a weak shot went in because he couldn't get across & we won ( I think 2-0). it was like we had won the cup coming back. Other games ( cloudy memory), but I think we played Wigan away when they got a famous name manager ( Lloyd??) it was his first game & they were expecting big things & we won 1-0 to spoil the party
Meaningless games in isolation but great to be there ( Friday night win at Crewe to ensure we didn't have to seek re-election was very meaningful & is still close to my favourite Dale game of all time) |  | |  |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Lincoln on 11:56 - Dec 6 with 1856 views | pioneer |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Lincoln on 11:22 - Dec 6 by TVOS1907 |
Good question.
Games in the 80s probably weren't more exciting than a lot of games since, but it's that nostalgia thing, where we hanker for something from the past because it was 'better'.
I preferred the experience of going to games back then, but probably because I was a naive youth without years of life and football experience behind me.
There have been many more successes and enjoyable games in, say, the last 14 years (from the start of the Hillcroft era) than in the 24 years I'd watched before then, but I strangely recall incidents and games from the 1980s and 1990s more readily.
There will come a time, Shun, in about 30 years, where you will be asked the same thing about the current era and the Hillcroft times and it's probably only then that you'll understand where we're coming from.
In a lot of my research for TVOS, I read up on Dale games from the 60s and 70s and wish I'd been there, even the disastrous 1973/74 campaign.
Fans who started then probably wish they'd seen some of the 50s, and so on.
To get a sense of what we experienced in the 80s, you really need to read some of Daniel Gray's excellent books. He's just brought out a new one so I've written to Father Christmas for a copy.
Also, the 'Got, Not Got' series of books are excellent.
You can find them here:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Black-Boots-Football-Pinks-Beautiful/dp/1472958861/ref=
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Got-Not-Z-Treasures-Pleasures/dp/1908051140/ref=sr_1_5? |
wish you had been in 73-74 season? Be careful what you wish for. I wish that my dentist opened on saturday afternoons that season.
Having attended every home game, including those played midweek afternoon, and many away I honestly cannot recall anything enjoyable about it. |  | | |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Lincoln on 12:09 - Dec 6 with 1817 views | D_Alien |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Lincoln on 11:56 - Dec 6 by pioneer |
wish you had been in 73-74 season? Be careful what you wish for. I wish that my dentist opened on saturday afternoons that season.
Having attended every home game, including those played midweek afternoon, and many away I honestly cannot recall anything enjoyable about it. |
We were obviously awful that season, and pretty awful for most of the 2011/12 campaign but i still maintain there's a difference between watching a poor side struggling against superior opposition and being bored to death - especially when we can perform in a different way
Yesterday's fixture was no different in terms of the challenge and opposition than the game against Rotherham back in March, but our intent was markedly different
I also don't fully subscribe to the view that it's all down to nostalgia, although i know what people mean when they refer to attending games before the internet era
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| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Lincoln on 13:01 - Dec 6 with 1737 views | Yorkshire_Dale |
Just watched the 2 mins "highlights" on Twitter......it's all Imps attacking play none of our lot.
And that 2nd goal, well?
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| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Lincoln on 14:28 - Dec 6 with 1621 views | TVOS1907 |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Lincoln on 11:56 - Dec 6 by pioneer |
wish you had been in 73-74 season? Be careful what you wish for. I wish that my dentist opened on saturday afternoons that season.
Having attended every home game, including those played midweek afternoon, and many away I honestly cannot recall anything enjoyable about it. |
That's not what I said, though. |  |
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| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Lincoln on 15:50 - Dec 6 with 1535 views | Hopwoodblue |
I bought my first season ticket for the 73/74 so I don’t think things could get much worse than that ☹ï¸
One of the games i remember was in the great escape year of the Peter Madden era.
Going to Scunny on Boxing Day played on a white pitch, orange ball and a Chris Jones hatrick including one that went through the side netting 😊
Although the football is a lot better now a days and the club are far more professional in the way the run the club, I still miss the days of sitting in the Merry Weaver with a few of the players after we arrived back from an away game having a laugh. Although the football was dreadful at times, you felt a lot more connected to the club than you do these days.
The getting dropped off by Les Barlow in a taxi because we both lived in Heywood !
For those not old enough to know him he was the Rochdale Observer match and all Dale related matters reporter.
Happy days 👠[Post edited 6 Dec 2020 15:54]
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| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Lincoln on 17:48 - Dec 6 with 1438 views | James1980 |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Lincoln on 11:04 - Dec 6 by TVOS1907 |
You ask that sort of question a lot, James, but it's impossible to quantify.
The one thing that sees crowds return/increase is results, particularly wins and progress up the league.
Whether those crowds increase or remain stable depends on if they like what they see, in terms of the style of play, excitement, commitment, etc, but ultimately it's winning football and success that affects attendance numbers at clubs where attendances aren't stable.
Someone mentioned Lincoln on an earlier post. When they were relegated from the FL in 1987, their game against Dale earlier in the season had attracted their lowest-ever league attendance of 1,357.
They were promoted after one season in the Vauxhall Conference, when their crowds regularly exceeded 5,000.
Why? Because they were successful.
Now, after another spell in non-league football, they can command attendances regularly over 9,000 (their average last season was 9,002).
Why? Because they have enjoyed a sustained period of success, even though, under the Cowley brothers, their style of play wasn't reported to be pleasing on the eye.
Would Dale's crowds increase if we started playing a completely different brand of football? Who knows, but the fans who aren't there won't return in their droves if we keep losing, regardless of how we play.
One thing that is certain is that, given everything we've endured in 2020, when fans do return, they need to be provided with better entertainment at Spotland than we've seen so far.
A single home win all season isn't acceptable and people saying they are "excited" about the way we're playing (or using any derivative of "excited" most of the time) need to back that up with something "exciting" on the pitch! |
Sorry for the delayed response I have been working today. Nothing I can say can do justice to the excellent responses, to my question, by yourself and 442. | |
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| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Lincoln on 19:32 - Dec 6 with 1367 views | rkershaw |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Lincoln on 17:48 - Dec 6 by James1980 |
Sorry for the delayed response I have been working today. Nothing I can say can do justice to the excellent responses, to my question, by yourself and 442. |
Thought it was a strange decision to play towards the Sandy in the first half......especially with the sun setting behind that stand and the possibility of getting into Lynch's eyes (minus cap)......think he was still dazzled from squinting all first half when he misjudged the flight of the ball for their 2nd!! 😬 | | | |
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| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Lincoln on 19:51 - Dec 6 with 1335 views | AtThePeake |
Just a point on the difference in style between the Plymouth and Lincoln matches - I really don't think it's been said enough just how much easier it is to attack an opponent that's chasing the game from the third minute. |  |
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| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Lincoln on 21:10 - Dec 6 with 1254 views | TVOS1907 |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Lincoln on 15:50 - Dec 6 by Hopwoodblue |
I bought my first season ticket for the 73/74 so I don’t think things could get much worse than that ☹ï¸
One of the games i remember was in the great escape year of the Peter Madden era.
Going to Scunny on Boxing Day played on a white pitch, orange ball and a Chris Jones hatrick including one that went through the side netting 😊
Although the football is a lot better now a days and the club are far more professional in the way the run the club, I still miss the days of sitting in the Merry Weaver with a few of the players after we arrived back from an away game having a laugh. Although the football was dreadful at times, you felt a lot more connected to the club than you do these days.
The getting dropped off by Les Barlow in a taxi because we both lived in Heywood !
For those not old enough to know him he was the Rochdale Observer match and all Dale related matters reporter.
Happy days 👠[Post edited 6 Dec 2020 15:54]
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Saturday 30th December 1978
Scunthorpe 0
Rochdale 4 (Jones, Hoy 2, Owen) | |
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| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Lincoln on 21:26 - Dec 6 with 1236 views | TVOS1907 |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Lincoln on 11:52 - Dec 6 by Nigeriamark |
Your right about remembering specific games
I think we had gone about 18 months without an away win and went to Blackpool. Their keeper got injured in the warm up & could hardly move the whole game yet we didn't register a decent effort in 80 minutes. Then a weak shot went in because he couldn't get across & we won ( I think 2-0). it was like we had won the cup coming back. Other games ( cloudy memory), but I think we played Wigan away when they got a famous name manager ( Lloyd??) it was his first game & they were expecting big things & we won 1-0 to spoil the party
Meaningless games in isolation but great to be there ( Friday night win at Crewe to ensure we didn't have to seek re-election was very meaningful & is still close to my favourite Dale game of all time) |
Saturday 8th October 1983
Blackpool 0
Rochdale 2 (Peter Farrell 84 mins, Stewart Thompson 88 mins) | |
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| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Lincoln on 23:48 - Dec 6 with 1166 views | Hopwoodblue |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Lincoln on 21:10 - Dec 6 by TVOS1907 |
Saturday 30th December 1978
Scunthorpe 0
Rochdale 4 (Jones, Hoy 2, Owen) |
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Wow, how the memory plays tricks with you !
It was definitely snowing or had snowed.
Probably wouldn’t even be played these days “to dangerous”
Thanks for clearing that up TVOS | |
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| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Lincoln on 12:28 - Dec 7 with 993 views | love_the_dale |
| Match Thread: Rochdale vs Lincoln on 19:32 - Dec 6 by rkershaw |
Thought it was a strange decision to play towards the Sandy in the first half......especially with the sun setting behind that stand and the possibility of getting into Lynch's eyes (minus cap)......think he was still dazzled from squinting all first half when he misjudged the flight of the ball for their 2nd!! 😬 |
I don't think we made that choice. I may be wrong, but I think we kicked off. If we won the toss, we may have elected to kick off, in which case they would choose ends. If they had won the toss, they may have chosen ends, in which case we would kick off. Either way, they had choice of ends and maybe they decided for the reason you gave. |  | | |
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