| An Insight on MRKT on 11:12 - Jul 18 with 4367 views | SuddenLad |
As predicted on another thread. No mention of cost to the club, however. |  |
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| An Insight on MRKT on 11:12 - Jul 18 with 4363 views | DaleFan7 |
Just a shame it took them being outed by the manager they employ to get this done.
Or is it just mere coincidence? |  | | |
| An Insight on MRKT on 11:17 - Jul 18 with 4336 views | dalemark |
| An Insight on MRKT on 11:12 - Jul 18 by SuddenLad |
As predicted on another thread. No mention of cost to the club, however. |
It can't be because of the other thread, they don't read this messageboard.
This constant gatekeeping of information, missed deadlines and empty promises to fans and the trust need to stop.
That being said, the information in the article is interesting and probably answers most questions that people have (I don't think we'd ever get told the cost, its probably commercially sensitive). If this had been released when originally promised, there probably wouldn't have been the difficult questions for McNulty last night about it, and fans / shareholders would be less 'suspicious' as we'd have the information we'd been asking for & promised. |  | | |
| An Insight on MRKT on 11:32 - Jul 18 with 4286 views | Yorkshire_Dale |
Yes, how much will this lot cost? It remains to be seen how well it works if players recruited turn out to be donkeys in the next few seasons, we are already good at that. | | | |
| An Insight on MRKT on 11:32 - Jul 18 with 4286 views | EllDale |
If it's cheaper than a DOF then fair enough.
Especially if we're looking long term as well as the immediate future. | | | |
| An Insight on MRKT on 11:35 - Jul 18 with 4268 views | James1980 |
Another example of damned if they do damned if they don't. Should they waited a few days? Should it have included an apology for not sharing more information about the role of MRKT? | |
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| An Insight on MRKT on 11:38 - Jul 18 with 4250 views | dalemark |
| An Insight on MRKT on 11:35 - Jul 18 by James1980 |
Another example of damned if they do damned if they don't. Should they waited a few days? Should it have included an apology for not sharing more information about the role of MRKT? |
It should've been communicated when they said it would be. It shouldn't take our head coach on BBC RM, or fans on a messageboard, calling it out for the article to come out.
You can see when articles and posts are reactionary - normally they are written in advance and scheduled to go live on the website on the hour or half past the hour... the one this morning was done at 10:41. | | | |
| An Insight on MRKT on 11:39 - Jul 18 with 4246 views | SuddenLad |
| An Insight on MRKT on 11:35 - Jul 18 by James1980 |
Another example of damned if they do damned if they don't. Should they waited a few days? Should it have included an apology for not sharing more information about the role of MRKT? |
Not correct,James. We were promised an update long since, with a deadline of 'early July' It didn't happen. As a result, the manager was put in a very awkward position in his Q & A session on live radio last night.
That update could just as easily have been made public yesterday (or even sooner) to prevent the embarrassment for the manager, who himself agreed that we should be better informed.
The communication skills of this club are as poor as they have ever been and that needs to urgently addressed. | |
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| An Insight on MRKT on 11:47 - Jul 18 with 4204 views | 442Dale |
There needs to be a clear structure in place. One that everyone is aware of and works to once discussions and agreements are made between the Trust and the club. This has to include time bound action points that are then followed up on when not met with further information provided.
Until this is put in place, nothing will change. |  |
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| An Insight on MRKT on 12:04 - Jul 18 with 4145 views | ChaffRAFC |
| An Insight on MRKT on 11:47 - Jul 18 by 442Dale |
There needs to be a clear structure in place. One that everyone is aware of and works to once discussions and agreements are made between the Trust and the club. This has to include time bound action points that are then followed up on when not met with further information provided.
Until this is put in place, nothing will change. |
There is a structure.
We post on here that we need to be or should have been kept up to date with something and then it magically appears on the Dale socials and the official website. |  |
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| An Insight on MRKT on 12:12 - Jul 18 with 4110 views | James1980 |
| An Insight on MRKT on 11:39 - Jul 18 by SuddenLad |
Not correct,James. We were promised an update long since, with a deadline of 'early July' It didn't happen. As a result, the manager was put in a very awkward position in his Q & A session on live radio last night.
That update could just as easily have been made public yesterday (or even sooner) to prevent the embarrassment for the manager, who himself agreed that we should be better informed.
The communication skills of this club are as poor as they have ever been and that needs to urgently addressed. |
But it seems that attempts to put things right are met with derision even before they are made. Yes they should have provided this information earlier. They have done so now. Regards to the cost should we also know how much Platt Lane is costing in comparison to the previous training facility? | |
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| An Insight on MRKT on 12:36 - Jul 18 with 4016 views | _Windydale |
Well done the club pro-actively releasing the information after a fan asked about it on radio. Might have been asked for before, but good on them, for being responsive. | | | |
| An Insight on MRKT on 12:38 - Jul 18 with 4005 views | DaleiLama |
| An Insight on MRKT on 12:36 - Jul 18 by _Windydale |
Well done the club pro-actively releasing the information after a fan asked about it on radio. Might have been asked for before, but good on them, for being responsive. |
Surely this is the definition of retro-active?
It's been asked for a promised over and over. |  |
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| An Insight on MRKT on 13:00 - Jul 18 with 3938 views | _Windydale |
I took it as a reminder, and they delivered today.
The clubs not perfect and wont probably get round to ticking off some requests promptly.
The club staff must have a million and one jobs dealing in priority order and dilemmas on what info can be disclosed. | | | |
| An Insight on MRKT on 13:04 - Jul 18 with 3906 views | 442Dale |
| An Insight on MRKT on 13:00 - Jul 18 by _Windydale |
I took it as a reminder, and they delivered today.
The clubs not perfect and wont probably get round to ticking off some requests promptly.
The club staff must have a million and one jobs dealing in priority order and dilemmas on what info can be disclosed. |
Then they should make that clear when speaking to the Trust and agree a suitable date for actioning issues. Then if that date can’t be met they and then Trust should update further.
It really isn’t hard. | |
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| An Insight on MRKT on 13:07 - Jul 18 with 3891 views | 442Dale |
| An Insight on MRKT on 12:04 - Jul 18 by ChaffRAFC |
There is a structure.
We post on here that we need to be or should have been kept up to date with something and then it magically appears on the Dale socials and the official website. |
The club will no doubt say they will look at this. [Post edited 18 Jul 2023 13:08]
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| An Insight on MRKT on 14:24 - Jul 18 with 3743 views | D_Alien |
| An Insight on MRKT on 11:12 - Jul 18 by DaleFan7 |
Just a shame it took them being outed by the manager they employ to get this done.
Or is it just mere coincidence? |
I wonder if BJ will be taking any flak from within the club for the opinion he voiced on the radio broadcast?
There's always been the thought at the back of my mind that his appointment - made since he fitted into the club ethos - also came with the expectation that he'd not be doing any boat-rocking
This MRKT business is just a minor ripple against the boat, but it just adds another aspect to the still-new relationship between both him and the board and with the fans |  |
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| An Insight on MRKT on 16:18 - Jul 18 with 3586 views | SaxonDale |
| An Insight on MRKT on 14:24 - Jul 18 by D_Alien |
I wonder if BJ will be taking any flak from within the club for the opinion he voiced on the radio broadcast?
There's always been the thought at the back of my mind that his appointment - made since he fitted into the club ethos - also came with the expectation that he'd not be doing any boat-rocking
This MRKT business is just a minor ripple against the boat, but it just adds another aspect to the still-new relationship between both him and the board and with the fans |
I certainly hope not. The club need to get their act together in every single department and Jim could be just the person to help drag it forward. No idea why the two most revealing interviews (Gauge last season and McNulty last night) have not been conducted by our own media team either. |  | | |
| An Insight on MRKT on 17:14 - Jul 18 with 3447 views | BillyRudd |
Would have loved to have been a fly on the wall if Brian Clough had been approached with that consultant bollox! | | | |
| An Insight on MRKT on 17:55 - Jul 18 with 3344 views | jonahwhereru |
| An Insight on MRKT on 17:14 - Jul 18 by BillyRudd |
Would have loved to have been a fly on the wall if Brian Clough had been approached with that consultant bollox! |
He had Peter Taylor for that role. Now he really understood how to match talent to a role. | | | |
| An Insight on MRKT on 19:57 - Jul 18 with 3174 views | EllDale |
Taylor was adept at spotting younger players in the lower divisions.
Never forgiven them for stealing Les Green! | | | |
| An Insight on MRKT on 20:33 - Jul 18 with 3098 views | D_Alien |
| An Insight on MRKT on 19:57 - Jul 18 by EllDale |
Taylor was adept at spotting younger players in the lower divisions.
Never forgiven them for stealing Les Green! |
And yet... that opened the door to signing Chris Harker, in the top three keepers i've seen at Dale (who also had a link with Brian Clough) | |
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