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Bristol airport - only if you really have to. 12:15 - Sep 17 with 1676 viewsReslovenSwan1

https://amp.theguardian.com/money/2024/sep/14/airport-parking-fines-bristol-unen

Drop off charges are anti British.

We work on the understanding that firms provide a service and take a fee. At Bristol they create an artificial deliberate traffic jam to slow down passengers long enough to fleece them of £6. This is not a service.

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Bristol airport - only if you really have to. on 12:15 - Sep 17 with 1669 viewsReslovenSwan1

Sorry move to non football.

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Bristol airport - only if you really have to. on 15:21 - Sep 17 with 1453 viewscontroversial_jack

It's a business not a service
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Bristol airport - only if you really have to. on 15:40 - Sep 17 with 1449 viewsReslovenSwan1

Bristol airport - only if you really have to. on 15:21 - Sep 17 by controversial_jack

It's a business not a service


What business do you pay when no additional service is provided? . 10 years ago I could drive there drop my friends off and pay no fee. Now I am funneled into a congested space and forced to pay £6 to get out. What service is that.?

It is a matter of principle. Provide service get paid.
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Bristol airport - only if you really have to. on 15:53 - Sep 17 with 1420 viewsunion_jack

Bristol airport - only if you really have to. on 15:40 - Sep 17 by ReslovenSwan1

What business do you pay when no additional service is provided? . 10 years ago I could drive there drop my friends off and pay no fee. Now I am funneled into a congested space and forced to pay £6 to get out. What service is that.?

It is a matter of principle. Provide service get paid.
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Legalised scamming has become part if the real world now, not that I’m supporting or excusing this.

You should try dealing with HMRC the dirty thieving b@stards!!!

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Bristol airport - only if you really have to. on 16:27 - Sep 17 with 1374 viewsWhiterockin

Bristol airport - only if you really have to. on 15:21 - Sep 17 by controversial_jack

It's a business not a service


I can remember reading a report by an aviation professional who specialises in running airports. In the report it says that the Welsh taxpayer has to subsidise Cardiff Airport by so much because it is not run to maximise profitability. One of the criteria he highlighted was drop off/pick up fees and the lack of a structured fee at Cardiff.
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Bristol airport - only if you really have to. on 18:12 - Sep 17 with 1285 viewscontroversial_jack

Bristol airport - only if you really have to. on 15:40 - Sep 17 by ReslovenSwan1

What business do you pay when no additional service is provided? . 10 years ago I could drive there drop my friends off and pay no fee. Now I am funneled into a congested space and forced to pay £6 to get out. What service is that.?

It is a matter of principle. Provide service get paid.
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Not saying i agree with the charge, but it's your choice to use it or not. Yes, they have us by the short and curlies if we go there, but it's a money making enterprise
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Bristol airport - only if you really have to. on 21:26 - Sep 17 with 1195 viewspencoedjack

Maybe the Welsh government should think about this, it would save us spunking our taxes on the white elephant that is Rhoose airport.
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Bristol airport - only if you really have to. on 23:05 - Sep 17 with 1120 viewsmajorraglan

The issue referred to in the article could well be unlawful, if it is then the airport operators need to be made to reimburse all those who’ve been inappropriately fined. The Guardian should report their concerns to the CAA.
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Bristol airport - only if you really have to. on 07:15 - Sep 18 with 1057 viewsDr_Winston

Bristol airport - only if you really have to. on 21:26 - Sep 17 by pencoedjack

Maybe the Welsh government should think about this, it would save us spunking our taxes on the white elephant that is Rhoose airport.


If Cardiff airport was busier it would already be the case. The car park is so unnecessarily convoluted I had to spend longer than I needed to in there and got charged when the place was basically deserted.

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Bristol airport - only if you really have to. on 11:07 - Sep 19 with 889 viewsReslovenSwan1

All subsidised service for people to use are a waste of money in the UK unless they are in south east England.

HS1 was not a problem. HS2 was a disaster due to people in the Tory shires who had no need for it. Noone complained about Cross Rail. It increase properly values along the route. HS2 only increase values at the hub stations.

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Bristol airport - only if you really have to. on 19:06 - Sep 19 with 802 viewsReslovenSwan1

Bristol airport - only if you really have to. on 07:15 - Sep 18 by Dr_Winston

If Cardiff airport was busier it would already be the case. The car park is so unnecessarily convoluted I had to spend longer than I needed to in there and got charged when the place was basically deserted.


I regard it as"rip of Britain" and not free market capitalism where services are provided ad a fee paid. Technology reduces staffing and therefore should make lifer cheaper and easier.

For example park and ride has many benefits and if cheap will be useful in keeping traffic in cities low. A benefit for the ratepayers residents and users. Number plate technology is ideal and cheap.

Drop of charges are however make life worse not better. Congestion is caused to slow down traffic not speed it it with the task of taking money while inconveniencing the user. Pay more for an inferior slower service.

Some people have voted to use this so called service it and have a longer walk and still get harassed using new number plate technology.

Cardiff should never use it. It needs planning permission of the local authorities who should reject it as told to them by their ratepayers.

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Bristol airport - only if you really have to. on 10:28 - Sep 20 with 696 viewsjohnlangy

Bristol airport - only if you really have to. on 19:06 - Sep 19 by ReslovenSwan1

I regard it as"rip of Britain" and not free market capitalism where services are provided ad a fee paid. Technology reduces staffing and therefore should make lifer cheaper and easier.

For example park and ride has many benefits and if cheap will be useful in keeping traffic in cities low. A benefit for the ratepayers residents and users. Number plate technology is ideal and cheap.

Drop of charges are however make life worse not better. Congestion is caused to slow down traffic not speed it it with the task of taking money while inconveniencing the user. Pay more for an inferior slower service.

Some people have voted to use this so called service it and have a longer walk and still get harassed using new number plate technology.

Cardiff should never use it. It needs planning permission of the local authorities who should reject it as told to them by their ratepayers.


FYI.

'At £13, APD is the highest aviation tax in Europe and represents a large part of the air fare, particularly since low cost airlines account for most capacity at Cardiff. As a consequence, the airport has failed to prosper and has lost out to other, cheaper airports in competition for new capacity.'

'Here are some of the concerns Bristol Airport has raised:
Job and investment losses
Bristol Airport has warned that devolution of APD powers to Wales could negatively impact jobs and investment in the south-west of England.
Passenger diversion
Bristol Airport has claimed that if APD is scrapped in Wales, more than a million passengers a year could fly from Cardiff Airport instead.
The UK Government has resisted calls to reduce APD in Wales, saying that it would negatively impact Bristol Airport.'

Part of the wording of the Lib dems election manifesto.

'Devolving Air Passenger Duty to put Wales on a fair playing field with Scotland and Northern Ireland and put Cardiff Airport on a fair playing field with regional airports in England'

Logically, if a million more people flew from Cardiff then any subsidy could be massively reduced.

You have to wonder why the success of the only real International Airport in Wales is being deliberately held back by the Westminster Government.
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Bristol airport - only if you really have to. on 10:34 - Sep 20 with 694 viewsonehunglow

Given the congestion on British roads I’m surprised we don’t see more domestic flights
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Plymouth ,a decent sized city, to Inverness / Aberdeen . An horrendous road trip . Imagine a London to Anglesey route . There again,it would bring more of those tourists in.
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Bristol airport - only if you really have to. on 12:20 - Sep 20 with 631 viewspaulmatthews

Got fined there for stopping for about 5 secs when the boot light came on.Without going to all details.Went to arbitration and they ended up saying sorry but the signs are there.That was January 2023,never paid the fine and did not hear from them.So I would think The Gaurdian story could well be right
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Bristol airport - only if you really have to. on 18:57 - Sep 20 with 521 viewsKeithHaynes

That airport is run by the gestapo at times. The customs officers are freaks with a power head on. Seen so many arsehole moments from them. I travel often via this excuse for an airport. When in any confrontational moment I say nothing, I just stare at them, totally silent. There’s no law on saying nothing.

Old people and their misunderstanding of what they need to do and their reactions ( customs ) really are unforgivable. A decent smack in the mouth is what they need, sadly though that only ends up with them leading victim status. Pricks.

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Bristol airport - only if you really have to. on 23:04 - Sep 20 with 447 viewsbuilthjack

Bristol airport - only if you really have to. on 18:57 - Sep 20 by KeithHaynes

That airport is run by the gestapo at times. The customs officers are freaks with a power head on. Seen so many arsehole moments from them. I travel often via this excuse for an airport. When in any confrontational moment I say nothing, I just stare at them, totally silent. There’s no law on saying nothing.

Old people and their misunderstanding of what they need to do and their reactions ( customs ) really are unforgivable. A decent smack in the mouth is what they need, sadly though that only ends up with them leading victim status. Pricks.


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Bristol airport - only if you really have to. on 13:15 - Sep 21 with 335 viewsDJack

I've had a few run ins with them at Bristol, they can be a little aggressive.

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Bristol airport - only if you really have to. on 14:16 - Sep 21 with 321 viewscontroversial_jack

Bristol airport - only if you really have to. on 13:15 - Sep 21 by DJack

I've had a few run ins with them at Bristol, they can be a little aggressive.


Never had a problem at Bristol. They aren't the most social or fun loving, but that's probably because it can get insanely busy there
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