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Trump 09:43 - Oct 27 with 134012 viewsHooparoo

An Australian professor of Data Analytics from Griffith University who predicted Trump’s first win, the Australian Federal Election(when all the polls said the opposite) and Brexit has called it - Trump will be re-elected for another 4 years. You heard it here first.

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Trump on 15:23 - Nov 4 with 2275 viewsrobith

Not much to add other than Trump's speech this morning was genuinely chilling.

I know there's been chat ITT about "hysterical anti-Trumpers" but I dunno how you could watch that and not feel an icy spirit pass through you.

Oh and playing the Betfair exchange has been a touch. Backed Trump, cashed him after Florida. Backed Biden, cashed him a few minutes ago. Free money as everyone overreacts to the exact pattern people were told to expect
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Trump on 15:24 - Nov 4 with 2267 viewsBrianMcCarthy

Trump on 15:23 - Nov 4 by robith

Not much to add other than Trump's speech this morning was genuinely chilling.

I know there's been chat ITT about "hysterical anti-Trumpers" but I dunno how you could watch that and not feel an icy spirit pass through you.

Oh and playing the Betfair exchange has been a touch. Backed Trump, cashed him after Florida. Backed Biden, cashed him a few minutes ago. Free money as everyone overreacts to the exact pattern people were told to expect


"Oh and playing the Betfair exchange has been a touch. Backed Trump, cashed him after Florida. Backed Biden, cashed him a few minutes ago. Free money as everyone overreacts to the exact pattern people were told to expect"

Ya, I did the same. Have to love Betfair.

"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
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Trump on 15:25 - Nov 4 with 2260 viewsdaveB

Trump on 13:54 - Nov 4 by Northernr

I have to say, as a side issue, the live updates on the BBC website are fcking atrocious. All about reaction, nothing about facts, figures, what's happened, what's still to happen. "How are European leaders reacting?" "What does the German foreign minister think of this?" "What do these Cuban voters in Florida make of it all?"

Who. Fcking. Cares? When did the fcking vox pop take over journalism? I want facts. I want numbers. I could not give a single fcking sht what the EU's chief diplomat thinks at this moment. I'm getting better updates on this from this bloody thread.


They had a guy on this morning who was fantastic, he brought up a graphic which said who was winning, how many votes for each and how many votes left to count so it made sense top me where we were. Since then it's been complete gibberish and left me none the wiser
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Trump on 15:26 - Nov 4 with 2245 viewsCliveWilsonSaid

Trump on 15:24 - Nov 4 by BrianMcCarthy

"Oh and playing the Betfair exchange has been a touch. Backed Trump, cashed him after Florida. Backed Biden, cashed him a few minutes ago. Free money as everyone overreacts to the exact pattern people were told to expect"

Ya, I did the same. Have to love Betfair.


Save some energy Brian.

We’ve got a match tonight!

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Trump on 15:28 - Nov 4 with 2228 viewsBrianMcCarthy

Trump on 15:26 - Nov 4 by CliveWilsonSaid

Save some energy Brian.

We’ve got a match tonight!


Might miss tonight's game actually. Not sure yet.

"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
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Trump on 15:31 - Nov 4 with 2199 viewstraininvain

Trump on 15:23 - Nov 4 by robith

Not much to add other than Trump's speech this morning was genuinely chilling.

I know there's been chat ITT about "hysterical anti-Trumpers" but I dunno how you could watch that and not feel an icy spirit pass through you.

Oh and playing the Betfair exchange has been a touch. Backed Trump, cashed him after Florida. Backed Biden, cashed him a few minutes ago. Free money as everyone overreacts to the exact pattern people were told to expect


Totally agree. Even though I thought it would happen it was still shocking and will long live in the memory.

I don’t understand how anyone can justify this behaviour. Trump wasn’t even ahead at the time so it made little sense. I suspect he planned that speech expecting to be ahead.
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Trump on 15:33 - Nov 4 with 2181 viewskensalriser

Fairly sure Biden has it now. He's favourite in all the remaining swing states except NC and possibly GA - and he doesn't need the whole lot.

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Trump on 15:36 - Nov 4 with 2159 viewsMatch82

Trump on 15:01 - Nov 4 by GaryT

It would be nice if this happens, especially after everything the Republicans have done to stop Pennsylvania from processing the ballots before election day.

https://www.inquirer.com/politics/pennsylvania/election-reform-harrisburg-pennsy

Trump declares votes counted after the polls close as "Fraud", DeJoy Slows the delivery of mail down and removes hundreds of post boxes (along with not allowing processing of mail in ballots before election day), all done specifically to nobble Pennsylvania. The whole thing stinks so how sweet it would be if Biden wins without Pennsylvania and all their cheating was for nothing.
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Republican party literally won the 2000 election as a result of votes counted/received after polls closed in florida
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Trump on 15:36 - Nov 4 with 2161 viewslondonscottish

Trump on 15:18 - Nov 4 by robith

But Cameron didn't win that Election with marginal voters though? In fact there was actually a small swing from Con to Lab of just over 1%. The tories won 8 seats from Lab, and Lab won 10 seats from the Tories.

But the Tories took 27 seat from the Liberal heartland of the Lib Dems who deserted them for Cameron, mostly in the South West. So what you've said there doesn't really ring true

Which in part lays the problem for polling in the US. You've got to think of it like having 52 constituencies - you can poll nationally to the margin of error but developing robust samples for individual states is v difficult


Maybe I used the term "marginal" incorrectly. Maybe I should have said "swing".

But in that election Tory HQ had a precise grip on and understating of voting patterns which meant they could devise the optimum local messaging in places where it really mattered and deliver a surprise majority.

It didn't happen by accident - they knew what they were going to win 12 hours before the counts were over. The polls, bookies & commentators were all over the place.

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Trump on 15:42 - Nov 4 with 2136 viewsGaryT

Trump on 15:36 - Nov 4 by Match82

Republican party literally won the 2000 election as a result of votes counted/received after polls closed in florida


Yep, different race different strategy. Odd how they aren't being reminded of this.
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Trump on 15:50 - Nov 4 with 2095 viewsPhildo

Shredders might be overheating in the White House about now. Donald may be planning for a fight but others will be worried about getting locked up if they do not act lawfully.
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Trump on 16:05 - Nov 4 with 2002 views2Thomas2Bowles

If Biden takes Wi, gives him 234 EC
If Trump takes Penn gives him 233 EC

When willl this CV nightmare end
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Trump on 16:07 - Nov 4 with 2003 viewsSimonJames

Trump on 15:23 - Nov 4 by robith

Not much to add other than Trump's speech this morning was genuinely chilling.

I know there's been chat ITT about "hysterical anti-Trumpers" but I dunno how you could watch that and not feel an icy spirit pass through you.

Oh and playing the Betfair exchange has been a touch. Backed Trump, cashed him after Florida. Backed Biden, cashed him a few minutes ago. Free money as everyone overreacts to the exact pattern people were told to expect


Doh! I didn't realise you could bet on stuff like that there... I must check Betfair out.

100% of people who drink water will die.

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Trump on 16:22 - Nov 4 with 1950 viewsCincyHoop

Looking more and more likely that Joe Biden will be our president. Not the outcome I voted for, but that is fine, the people have spoken and this is why we have a democracy. I hope all Americans get behind Biden and support him in attempting to move this country forward!

We need more people putting the A (American) in front of their names rather than R or D. This country would be a far better place in my opinion!

Congrats Joe (if largely expected results hold)! I'm with you win or tie!
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Trump on 16:22 - Nov 4 with 1948 viewsAntti_Heinola

Trump on 15:36 - Nov 4 by londonscottish

Maybe I used the term "marginal" incorrectly. Maybe I should have said "swing".

But in that election Tory HQ had a precise grip on and understating of voting patterns which meant they could devise the optimum local messaging in places where it really mattered and deliver a surprise majority.

It didn't happen by accident - they knew what they were going to win 12 hours before the counts were over. The polls, bookies & commentators were all over the place.


This sounds amazing.

But does it not fall down a bit on the fact that Cameron himself had no idea he was going to win and every single plan he had was for the Con-Lib pact to continue? The only reason he ever agreed to the Brexit vote was because he was certain the Libs would stop him from having to do it.

Bare bones.

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Trump on 16:41 - Nov 4 with 1878 viewsrobith

Trump on 16:22 - Nov 4 by Antti_Heinola

This sounds amazing.

But does it not fall down a bit on the fact that Cameron himself had no idea he was going to win and every single plan he had was for the Con-Lib pact to continue? The only reason he ever agreed to the Brexit vote was because he was certain the Libs would stop him from having to do it.


Or if they were so good at this they had a net loss to Labour?

Don't mean to be mean LS, this just doesn't seem to stack up with what happened
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Trump on 16:45 - Nov 4 with 1865 viewsEmpireStateRanger

Speaking as a bleeding-heart liberal in the blue oasis of Brooklyn, New York, Democrats did not do a good job diversifying their intentions. It was always about getting Trump out of office, and at some point, "he's a racist" just won't cut it, and the DNC putting their eggs in the Biden basket after how uninspiring he was in early primaries was a questionable decision, too. I maintain this even if Biden pulls it out.

Just look at how Miami-Dade voted... clearly those who would typically vote blue were scared off by the socialism label the Trump campaign branded onto Biden, even though Biden is essentially a 1990s Republican from the Northeast.

Thank god I have QPR to distract me at 2:45 local time.
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Trump on 16:46 - Nov 4 with 1858 viewsBrianMcCarthy


"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
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Trump on 16:50 - Nov 4 with 1837 viewsTheChef

Trump on 16:45 - Nov 4 by EmpireStateRanger

Speaking as a bleeding-heart liberal in the blue oasis of Brooklyn, New York, Democrats did not do a good job diversifying their intentions. It was always about getting Trump out of office, and at some point, "he's a racist" just won't cut it, and the DNC putting their eggs in the Biden basket after how uninspiring he was in early primaries was a questionable decision, too. I maintain this even if Biden pulls it out.

Just look at how Miami-Dade voted... clearly those who would typically vote blue were scared off by the socialism label the Trump campaign branded onto Biden, even though Biden is essentially a 1990s Republican from the Northeast.

Thank god I have QPR to distract me at 2:45 local time.


I have to admit I couldn't understand how Biden ended up as the candidate, is there really no one else in the Democratic party who is viable?

Being given a choice of two establishment 70-somethings is a very loose approximation of democracy, but hasn't that always been the case (even including Obama's time in office)?

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Trump on 17:01 - Nov 4 with 1800 viewskensalriser

Trump on 16:45 - Nov 4 by EmpireStateRanger

Speaking as a bleeding-heart liberal in the blue oasis of Brooklyn, New York, Democrats did not do a good job diversifying their intentions. It was always about getting Trump out of office, and at some point, "he's a racist" just won't cut it, and the DNC putting their eggs in the Biden basket after how uninspiring he was in early primaries was a questionable decision, too. I maintain this even if Biden pulls it out.

Just look at how Miami-Dade voted... clearly those who would typically vote blue were scared off by the socialism label the Trump campaign branded onto Biden, even though Biden is essentially a 1990s Republican from the Northeast.

Thank god I have QPR to distract me at 2:45 local time.


Joe Biden's name was on the ballot, but paranoid Cuban Americans read 'Fidel Castro'.

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Trump on 17:06 - Nov 4 with 2701 viewswood_hoop

Trump on 15:50 - Nov 4 by Phildo

Shredders might be overheating in the White House about now. Donald may be planning for a fight but others will be worried about getting locked up if they do not act lawfully.


Another worry for Trump must be the hundreds of mullions $ loans his companies owe, and then his mysterious tax returns, its how they got Al Capone, no surprise he's desperate to stay President....
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Trump on 17:10 - Nov 4 with 2680 viewsMrSheen

Trump on 16:22 - Nov 4 by CincyHoop

Looking more and more likely that Joe Biden will be our president. Not the outcome I voted for, but that is fine, the people have spoken and this is why we have a democracy. I hope all Americans get behind Biden and support him in attempting to move this country forward!

We need more people putting the A (American) in front of their names rather than R or D. This country would be a far better place in my opinion!

Congrats Joe (if largely expected results hold)! I'm with you win or tie!


Hey Cincy, when was the last time Ohio didn't go with the winner?
(Just checked, JFK in 1960!)
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Trump on 17:37 - Nov 4 with 2569 viewsHunterhoop

Trump on 16:22 - Nov 4 by CincyHoop

Looking more and more likely that Joe Biden will be our president. Not the outcome I voted for, but that is fine, the people have spoken and this is why we have a democracy. I hope all Americans get behind Biden and support him in attempting to move this country forward!

We need more people putting the A (American) in front of their names rather than R or D. This country would be a far better place in my opinion!

Congrats Joe (if largely expected results hold)! I'm with you win or tie!


Good post.
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Trump on 17:42 - Nov 4 with 2552 viewsJuzzie

Trump on 13:54 - Nov 4 by Northernr

I have to say, as a side issue, the live updates on the BBC website are fcking atrocious. All about reaction, nothing about facts, figures, what's happened, what's still to happen. "How are European leaders reacting?" "What does the German foreign minister think of this?" "What do these Cuban voters in Florida make of it all?"

Who. Fcking. Cares? When did the fcking vox pop take over journalism? I want facts. I want numbers. I could not give a single fcking sht what the EU's chief diplomat thinks at this moment. I'm getting better updates on this from this bloody thread.


You'd expect the BBC to be above all that but they're just the same.....sensationalism is what it's all about the days.

In the early days of the first lockdown and panic buying was just starting to happen, you'd think the media outlets such as the BBC would try and calm it down by saying something along the lines of "We're hearing reports of people stockpiling. Please don't. The supply chain is good, the shops are open please carry on as normal" etc etc.
but they didn't , they went along with the hysteria and it was only a couple of days later did they start taking the sensible narrative. Too late by then. Well fkin done.
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Trump on 17:46 - Nov 4 with 2533 viewsR_from_afar

Trump on 15:28 - Nov 4 by BrianMcCarthy

Might miss tonight's game actually. Not sure yet.


What?

I e-mailed the EFL to let them know and they replied to say they will delay the kick-off, but can you please let them know what time works for you?

"Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1."

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