| ENOUGH!! 15:15 - Jan 19 with 6797 views | LongsufferingR |
I know others swear by the use of the ignore button, but I joined this board to read and occasionally respond to others' views on the club we support. Whether I agree or not with those views, it's been interesting and informative. It's a fantastic site with a fantastic creator/moderator/reporter and I have throughly enjoyed it over the years.
Yesterday was just a step too far for me with virtually every thread infected by a single poster who it appears is deliberately trying to wind people up and sabotage the site. Well, it's worked. As is all too common, the valuable aspects of social media ruined by a small minority (or individual) who see themselves above the rest. Shame. |  | | |  |
| ENOUGH!! on 22:33 - Jan 19 with 1766 views | wombat |
| ENOUGH!! on 21:38 - Jan 19 by Spaceman_P |
Stainrod I know you live in Hayes but its okay you'll get through it. |
Does he ? I always thought he was a blast from the past Matt Doran ,those of the oldies will remember him well . Same style of writing , totally off his head most of the time . |  |
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| ENOUGH!! on 22:51 - Jan 19 with 1681 views | stevec |
| ENOUGH!! on 17:01 - Jan 19 by Boston |
I've never had anybody on ignore, and I doubt I ever will. There is plenty of stuff posted by many posters that makes me roll my eyes, as I'm sure that many posts I submit do the same to others. I actually prefer the wide range of opinions found here, and it's not just this medium that these different views pertain to, it's the same in the ground, half the time the blokes in the seats next to ya have seen something completely at odds in a play(er) than what you've just thought went / is going on, it's normality in sports, we're all experts. I don't know if I possess a thicker skin then others, but Stainrods Elbow does not affect me in the same way I see it does others. Do I agree with his observations, sometimes, sometimes not, sometimes I think he's not living in my reality, but pissing me off so much that I can't scroll through the Board is not going to happen. As Kensal Riser said, it's only football. [Post edited 19 Jan 17:03]
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Same as me.
My dad taught me to always listen to what other people say, even if you think most of it is rubbish, if there’s one thing said that you didn’t know, then that is to your education.
It’s not the things you agree with that broaden the mind, it’s the things you disagree with.
When I see people actively advocating the ignore button it does leave me with a sense of sadness. |  | | |
| ENOUGH!! on 00:38 - Jan 20 with 1469 views | willesdenr |
I have a vague memory of him leaving the old reconstituted dotorg message board because posters got fed up with his never ending holier than thou attitude and never dropping an argument. |  | | |
| ENOUGH!! on 00:55 - Jan 20 with 1437 views | E17hoop |
| ENOUGH!! on 22:51 - Jan 19 by stevec |
Same as me.
My dad taught me to always listen to what other people say, even if you think most of it is rubbish, if there’s one thing said that you didn’t know, then that is to your education.
It’s not the things you agree with that broaden the mind, it’s the things you disagree with.
When I see people actively advocating the ignore button it does leave me with a sense of sadness. |
I appreciate the principle your dad shared - staying curious and learning from unexpected sources is valuable. But there's an important distinction between disagreeing with someone and being subjected to deliberate disruption.
Your dad's advice assumes good faith - that people are genuinely sharing views, even poorly expressed ones. Trolling isn't that. It's designed to waste time, derail conversation, and drive people away. That's not disagreement to learn from; it's noise that drowns out actual discussion.
We have a right to speak, but we also have a responsibility not to abuse shared spaces. And crucially, having the right to speak doesn't create an obligation in others to listen. The ignore button isn't closed-mindedness - it's a boundary that says 'I'll engage with disagreement, but I won't reward behaviour designed to destroy conversation.'
If someone's contribution is genuinely adding a perspective worth considering, people won't ignore them. If multiple people are using the ignore button, that's usually a sign the person has forfeited good faith. Your dad's wisdom still holds - but it works best when everyone's actually trying to communicate, not just perform disruption. |  |
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| ENOUGH!! on 01:16 - Jan 20 with 1402 views | numptydumpty |
| ENOUGH!! on 00:55 - Jan 20 by E17hoop |
I appreciate the principle your dad shared - staying curious and learning from unexpected sources is valuable. But there's an important distinction between disagreeing with someone and being subjected to deliberate disruption.
Your dad's advice assumes good faith - that people are genuinely sharing views, even poorly expressed ones. Trolling isn't that. It's designed to waste time, derail conversation, and drive people away. That's not disagreement to learn from; it's noise that drowns out actual discussion.
We have a right to speak, but we also have a responsibility not to abuse shared spaces. And crucially, having the right to speak doesn't create an obligation in others to listen. The ignore button isn't closed-mindedness - it's a boundary that says 'I'll engage with disagreement, but I won't reward behaviour designed to destroy conversation.'
If someone's contribution is genuinely adding a perspective worth considering, people won't ignore them. If multiple people are using the ignore button, that's usually a sign the person has forfeited good faith. Your dad's wisdom still holds - but it works best when everyone's actually trying to communicate, not just perform disruption. |
Understand this.
I have said the odd stupid thing on here and wound up a few, but its never consistently all knowing. Etc.
A clever man / woman is the one that knows they are never always right and adapts if its shown by weight of responses that they need to listen to the majority, if they are consistently called out.
The ignore button could be used. i dont use it myself, but on this forum for me, its unneccessary.
I actually think its positive people arent banned or suspended from here, but if i was constantly mocked or seen as the pariah here, it would not do me much good, as in general, its a nice hobby to come here and chat nonsense.
Cant see a lot of fun posting insults to others and being called out for it often. And then continuing to do so. It makes zero sense. But if thats the case, so be it. Its weird though. |  |
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| ENOUGH!! on 01:25 - Jan 20 with 1406 views | CiderwithRsie |
Whether people want to use the Ignore button is up to them, but I have no compunction in using it.
Back in The Old Days, you chatted to your mates in the pub/at work/the Women's Institute/wherever.
No-one you didn't know came up to you and randomly started spouting balls at you uninvited. If they had done, you'd have told them to sling their hook.
No-one would put up with the other person getting huffy, talking down to you, swearing at you or otherwise slagging you off, but anyway it wouldn't arise because no-one would be bloody stupid enough to try - plenty of places it'd get you a smack if you'd tried it. And no-one thought anyone's freedom of speech was getting infringed or that you had a duty to listen to someone who got on your tits.
If you hung out with people who talked balls, that was your choice and your lookout.
The great glory of the internet is that I can sit here over 100 miles from Loftus Road and get into a chat about the Rs. The downside is that I've no control over who joins in.
Except, I have. That's the Ignore button. | | | |
| ENOUGH!! on 05:24 - Jan 20 with 1303 views | enfieldargh |
| ENOUGH!! on 19:19 - Jan 19 by stainrods_elbow |
'If you scapegoat someone, it's a third party that will be aware of it. It won't be you. Because you will believe you are doing the right thing.' Rene Girard |
This third party is a pretty big party and not just one person |  |
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| ENOUGH!! on 06:37 - Jan 20 with 1222 views | Blue_Castello |
| ENOUGH!! on 21:38 - Jan 19 by Spaceman_P |
Stainrod I know you live in Hayes but its okay you'll get through it. |
Pretty sure from previous comments he's in Ireland and watches matches on the internet. | | | |
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| ENOUGH!! on 06:48 - Jan 20 with 1206 views | Rsole |
| ENOUGH!! on 19:19 - Jan 19 by stainrods_elbow |
'If you scapegoat someone, it's a third party that will be aware of it. It won't be you. Because you will believe you are doing the right thing.' Rene Girard |
Was Rene the lad from Stoke with the long throw ?
Or the Arsenal player with amazing hair ? |  |
| Those possessed by devils, try and keep them under control a bit, can't you ?
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| ENOUGH!! on 06:59 - Jan 20 with 1173 views | Blue_Castello |
| ENOUGH!! on 06:48 - Jan 20 by Rsole |
Was Rene the lad from Stoke with the long throw ?
Or the Arsenal player with amazing hair ? |
Nope he was the bar/restaurant owner in Allo Allo, who would have guessed  | | | |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 07:50 - Jan 20 with 1086 views | Blue_Castello |
| ENOUGH!! on 06:48 - Jan 20 by Rsole |
Was Rene the lad from Stoke with the long throw ?
Or the Arsenal player with amazing hair ? |
Sorry duplicate post [Post edited 20 Jan 7:51]
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| ENOUGH!! on 08:01 - Jan 20 with 1071 views | SW_Ranger |
It is a shame that some feel it’s OK to abuse or put down people because they have an opposing view or challenge their comments or point of view. As has been said many times “it’s a forum”.
The great, or frustrating, joy of football is there are many varied and interesting takes on our club, our team and our journey. I enjoy taking on others thoughts and sharing mine occasionally for discussion.
What I can’t abide though is the abuse and name calling - it’s free to be polite. If I wanted abuse nd bickering I’d have stayed married to my first Mrs. Have to admit, I’m a bit older and a bit more calmer about stuff these days but never afraid to push back to a bully if it’s warranted.
Keyboard warriors huh!?!  |  | | |
| ENOUGH!! on 08:48 - Jan 20 with 936 views | FDC |
| ENOUGH!! on 00:55 - Jan 20 by E17hoop |
I appreciate the principle your dad shared - staying curious and learning from unexpected sources is valuable. But there's an important distinction between disagreeing with someone and being subjected to deliberate disruption.
Your dad's advice assumes good faith - that people are genuinely sharing views, even poorly expressed ones. Trolling isn't that. It's designed to waste time, derail conversation, and drive people away. That's not disagreement to learn from; it's noise that drowns out actual discussion.
We have a right to speak, but we also have a responsibility not to abuse shared spaces. And crucially, having the right to speak doesn't create an obligation in others to listen. The ignore button isn't closed-mindedness - it's a boundary that says 'I'll engage with disagreement, but I won't reward behaviour designed to destroy conversation.'
If someone's contribution is genuinely adding a perspective worth considering, people won't ignore them. If multiple people are using the ignore button, that's usually a sign the person has forfeited good faith. Your dad's wisdom still holds - but it works best when everyone's actually trying to communicate, not just perform disruption. |
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| ENOUGH!! on 09:25 - Jan 20 with 869 views | robith |
| ENOUGH!! on 22:51 - Jan 19 by stevec |
Same as me.
My dad taught me to always listen to what other people say, even if you think most of it is rubbish, if there’s one thing said that you didn’t know, then that is to your education.
It’s not the things you agree with that broaden the mind, it’s the things you disagree with.
When I see people actively advocating the ignore button it does leave me with a sense of sadness. |
I can't speak for everyone, but I wouldn't put any one on ignore cos I disagree with them, but that doesn't mean I need to spend my time on earth reading bad faith wind up merchants |  | | |
| ENOUGH!! on 10:28 - Jan 20 with 760 views | digswellhoop |
is it me? | | | |
| ENOUGH!! on 10:44 - Jan 20 with 716 views | colinallcars |
Absolutely not mate… |  | | |
| ENOUGH!! on 10:44 - Jan 20 with 716 views | Superhoops2808 |
I have only blocked 2 people on this board. One for posting 2-3 times a day of absolute drivel, and the other, well the toxicity of the posts and always when the side has performed poorly.
I did laugh to myself at the weekend that the board should carry a health warning that if you dare to look at the board when you are not logged in you see all the said posts and I was miffed over the weekend as to why I could see the continuous stream of bile directed at other posters
If you log in on another device it boots you out of any others. You have been warned my friends 
I do admire how patient Clive and his colleagues are around banning and fair play to them. I am sure that makes for a better board in the long run - And I guess some people here are more tolerant/patient than me |  | | |
| ENOUGH!! on 10:44 - Jan 20 with 716 views | Juzzie |
Nope. |  | | |
| ENOUGH!! on 10:55 - Jan 20 with 671 views | WokingR |
I'm Spartacus |  | | |
| ENOUGH!! on 10:56 - Jan 20 with 654 views | nix |
Hello.
Can anyone hear me???? Is anyone out there???? |  | | |
| ENOUGH!! on 10:57 - Jan 20 with 657 views | nick_hammersmith |
| ENOUGH!! on 22:33 - Jan 19 by wombat |
Does he ? I always thought he was a blast from the past Matt Doran ,those of the oldies will remember him well . Same style of writing , totally off his head most of the time . |
I remember that Doran couldn't spell very well, although he may have found spellchecker by now.
He tried to get me fired back in the day by phoning my work! |  | | |
| ENOUGH!! on 11:03 - Jan 20 with 628 views | nix |
| ENOUGH!! on 10:57 - Jan 20 by nick_hammersmith |
I remember that Doran couldn't spell very well, although he may have found spellchecker by now.
He tried to get me fired back in the day by phoning my work! |
Bloody hell. That’s nuclear. Can’t even imagine…
He’s definitely been chucked out of a FB group for generally being annoying and slagging off the club, the players, other fans etc. I think he might have been abusive to a player on X. | | | |
| ENOUGH!! on 11:28 - Jan 20 with 559 views | DannyPaddox |
I tried to block myself once. Haven’t quite figured it out yet. |  | | |
| ENOUGH!! on 11:55 - Jan 20 with 466 views | Stocktake |
I sort of admire and enjoy his principled if sometimes slightly potty viewpoints, but may be being deliberately contrary. But recent fawning over Mark Robins as some sort of martyr whilst dumping on JS was very bizarre. | | | |
| ENOUGH!! on 11:57 - Jan 20 with 464 views | TheChef |
| ENOUGH!! on 11:55 - Jan 20 by Stocktake |
I sort of admire and enjoy his principled if sometimes slightly potty viewpoints, but may be being deliberately contrary. But recent fawning over Mark Robins as some sort of martyr whilst dumping on JS was very bizarre. |
Quite...
I look forward to his usual holier than thou pronouncements after we don't win tonight. |  |
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