| War Time Teams 12:48 - May 10 with 1872 views | mikehunt |
Did we have a war time team? And how did the war time competition work exactly?
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| War Time Teams on 13:39 - May 10 with 1824 views | D_Alien |
According to my dad, clubs would arrange matches on an ad hoc basis depending on who was available (home on leave) and which other teams could put a side out
I don't think there was a competition as such, but the matches were played pretty competitively. Occasionally, a guest player from a much bigger club would turn out to get a game. I think some internationals played for Dale XIs and this increased the gates, the games being well-attended anyway as a diversion from the battles ahead |  |
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| War Time Teams on 15:12 - May 10 with 1733 views | 442Dale |
They had a ‘Football League North’. All the details are in the book mentioned in the other thread, or if you google Rochdale AFC 42/43 (or any other season for that matter) there is quite a bit of info on Wikipedia. |  |
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| War Time Teams on 15:30 - May 10 with 1705 views | D_Alien |
| War Time Teams on 15:12 - May 10 by 442Dale |
They had a ‘Football League North’. All the details are in the book mentioned in the other thread, or if you google Rochdale AFC 42/43 (or any other season for that matter) there is quite a bit of info on Wikipedia. |
I should've added: my dad spent the war years in the Ministry of Misinformation | |
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| War Time Teams on 18:42 - May 10 with 1545 views | ArthurDaley |
Think Bob Paisley turned out for Rochdale sometime during the war. |  |
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| War Time Teams on 22:45 - May 10 with 1353 views | The_Referee |
That's a great site. Its a shame there isn't a little more info around each game. Even something as simple as the teams, scores and scorers. |  | | |
| War Time Teams on 04:23 - May 11 with 1251 views | Albert_Whitehurst |
There was the War League and War Cup also. Have about half a dozen programmes from that period (Second World War), looks like single sheet programmes were, understandably, issued as standard.
During the Great War, Sandy Turnbull (disgraced former Man United player) guested for Dale before being killed in Arras, 1917. [Post edited 11 May 4:37]
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| War Time Teams on 04:28 - May 11 with 1245 views | Albert_Whitehurst |
| War Time Teams on 18:42 - May 10 by ArthurDaley |
Think Bob Paisley turned out for Rochdale sometime during the war. |
He was stationed in North Africa and Italy (I think he was in the 8th Army, Desert Rats, not sure he would’ve guested at Dale). [Post edited 11 May 4:40]
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| War Time Teams on 08:16 - May 11 with 1149 views | EllDale |
Was it Joe Fagan that you were thinking of?
Charlie Hurst, father of Geoff, also played around this time I think. | | | |
| War Time Teams on 09:21 - May 11 with 1068 views | Albert_Whitehurst |
| War Time Teams on 08:16 - May 11 by EllDale |
Was it Joe Fagan that you were thinking of?
Charlie Hurst, father of Geoff, also played around this time I think. |
Also thought Joe Fagan, seem to remember a story about him guesting at Dale in the 40s before he assisted the club under Harry Catterick in the 50s …but couldn’t see anything to support the former. | | | |
| War Time Teams on 09:40 - May 11 with 1037 views | EllDale |
I’m not sure that Dale would have had too many guests.
Apparently Aldershot had a real team in the war years for obvious reasons! | | | |
| War Time Teams on 09:48 - May 11 with 1028 views | Albert_Whitehurst |
| War Time Teams on 09:40 - May 11 by EllDale |
I’m not sure that Dale would have had too many guests.
Apparently Aldershot had a real team in the war years for obvious reasons! |
Plenty guests, have a look at the season by season stats on Wiki, must be about 40-50 players each season credited with a handful of games each. | | | |
| War Time Teams on 11:12 - May 11 with 973 views | TVOS1907 |
The aforementioned Steven Phillipps' books have all the War years results and player biographies in them. |  |
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| War Time Teams on 17:45 - May 11 with 812 views | mikehunt |
That Programs site is good too (Thanks for that '68)
From the Arsenal cup clash prog. in 1920, I learned that we had a very good chance of beng elected into the, then, Division 2 but for the formation of West Ham Utd (the b@ggers) and that we had been drawn at home for that Arsenal game but elected to play at Highbury.
Will have another delve later. | |
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| War Time Teams on 18:39 - May 11 with 779 views | EllDale |
| War Time Teams on 09:48 - May 11 by Albert_Whitehurst |
Plenty guests, have a look at the season by season stats on Wiki, must be about 40-50 players each season credited with a handful of games each. |
Perhaps I should have said not too many notable guests compared to the likes of Aldershot who were fielding internationals most weeks. | | | |
| War Time Teams on 19:34 - May 11 with 731 views | ArthurDaley |
| War Time Teams on 08:16 - May 11 by EllDale |
Was it Joe Fagan that you were thinking of?
Charlie Hurst, father of Geoff, also played around this time I think. |
It might have been . I know it was a future Liverpool manager. ( my last two brain cells are slowly fading away ) | |
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| War Time Teams on 19:40 - May 11 with 728 views | D_Alien |
| War Time Teams on 19:34 - May 11 by ArthurDaley |
It might have been . I know it was a future Liverpool manager. ( my last two brain cells are slowly fading away ) |
Don't worry AD, could be the quality of those last two is still good enough and better than many!
Glad at least my dad was right about the guest internationals, although tbf he was in his dotage when reminiscing about it | |
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| War Time Teams on 22:11 - May 11 with 640 views | 49thseason |
| War Time Teams on 04:28 - May 11 by Albert_Whitehurst |
He was stationed in North Africa and Italy (I think he was in the 8th Army, Desert Rats, not sure he would’ve guested at Dale). [Post edited 11 May 4:40]
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Paisley was in the 73rd Medium Anti Tank Regiment
https://ra39-45.co.uk/units/medium-regiments/73-medium-regiment-ra
The 73rd were in Egypt attached to the 8th Armoured Div. renamed the 95th anti tank Regiment in Sept 1941 and back to the 73rd in April 1944 and Ended the war in Italy as the 315 Battery but it was the 7th Armoured Div. that became known as "The Desert Rats" because they had a Jerboa as their emblem whilst in North Africa, "
"The Jerboa became the emblem of the 7th Armoured Division after General Creagh saw one at the Cairo Zoo and had a design created.
The design was originally flown as a pennant from Major General Creagh's vehicle.
The Jerboa was chosen to represent the division's work in the North African desert campaign. "
The 73rd Medium Regiment was raised in Tarporley Cheshire in 1940 and disbanded in September 1945 having spent part of WW2 in XXX Corps under Montgomery, they went from Egypt to Italy whilst the the rest of the 8th Armoured Div. returned to the UK to re-arm and retrain ready for D Day. In Italy the 73rd Anti Tank Regiment was redesignated to become 315 Battery as part of the 67th Regiment (after being the 95th for a short while too) and account of their arrival in Italy is here .. https://57th67thanti-tank.co.uk/welcome-315-s-p-battery/
Paisley would have been watching from afar in Italy as the rest of their former 8th Armoured colleagues were busy Landing on Gold Beach as part of XXX corps and on to Arnhem , crossing the Rhine and the Battle of the Bulge.... |  | | |
| War Time Teams on 22:40 - May 11 with 616 views | The_Referee |
| War Time Teams on 19:34 - May 11 by ArthurDaley |
It might have been . I know it was a future Liverpool manager. ( my last two brain cells are slowly fading away ) |
Joe Fagan was coach when Harry Catterick was manager I think. He then moved to Anfield under Phil Taylor just before Shankly I think | | | |
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