| Hamstring Injuries 21:39 - Oct 21 with 1323 views | BlueWizard |
There are so many Hamstring Injuries you have to wonder why ? Is something missing in the warm up ? More focus needed on exercises and strengthening those areas ? It does seem very strange.
I had a bad injury with my hamstring years ago and I was told by a very well versed physio that I should take up yoga and strengthening exercises.
Obviously, our own Physios are well versed so they must be alerted to this very unlucky sequence of bad injuries.... Let's hope we have used all our injuries up in the 1st half of the season 🤞☘️ |  | | |  |
| Hamstring Injuries on 21:44 - Oct 21 with 1310 views | EllDale |
How many of the dozen or so current injuries are hamstring related? | | | |
| Hamstring Injuries on 22:07 - Oct 21 with 1213 views | 49thseason |
As of October 2026, Rochdale AFC is experiencing a severe injury crisis, with Head Coach Ian Watson confirming that 13 First Team players are currently sidelined.
The complete breakdown of injured players and their respective injuries includes:
Player Position. Injury Type
Dan Moss Defender Knee (Ruptured ACL — out for the season)
Will Jenkins Midfielder Knee (Ruptured ACL — out for the season)
Casey Pettit Midfielder Knee (MCL injury — out several months)
Nils Ramming Goalkeeper Thigh (Tear — out approx. 10 weeks)
Laurence Maguire Defender Calf (Torn calf — out approx. 10 weeks)
Bryant Bilongo Defender Hamstring (Pulled hamstring — out approx. 6 weeks)
Emmanuel "Mani" Dieseruvwe Forward Hamstring (Pulled hamstring)
Tobi Adebayo-Rowling Defender Unspecified match injury (Sustained 20 Oct)
Kane Taylor Midfielder Unspecified match injury (Sustained 20 Oct)
Ryan East Midfielder Toe injury
Jonny Smith Forward Leg injury
Devante Rodney Forward Persistent pain / flair-up (underwent steroid injection)
Ethan Ebanks-Landell Defender Unspecified pain/mobility injury |  | | |
| Hamstring Injuries on 09:44 - Oct 22 with 831 views | James1980 |
If it's not been done already the club should carry out DNA tests on the players which can see if they are genetically at elevated risk of injuries like this a tailor training programs to minimise risk of them occurring. | |
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| Hamstring Injuries on 12:01 - Oct 22 with 659 views | richfoad32 |
| Hamstring Injuries on 09:44 - Oct 22 by James1980 |
If it's not been done already the club should carry out DNA tests on the players which can see if they are genetically at elevated risk of injuries like this a tailor training programs to minimise risk of them occurring. |
What would the cost be for a process such as this? Though I suppose any outlay would be mitigated by having players that have a higher chance of remaining on the pitch.
I'm not privy to what the club does or doesn't do involving players health and fitness, there seems to be a tacit acceptance that the trainers are at fault. Maybe they already are sanctioning a lot of what has been suggested and it's just been an extraordinarily freak year in terms of injuries? What are other clubs lists like? [Post edited 22 Oct 12:33]
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| Hamstring Injuries on 12:03 - Oct 22 with 659 views | 49thseason |
Yesterday, I sent an email to Ian Watson via the club , to suggest he investigates the use of Ballet exercises as part of the training regime, the Northern College of Dance is 10 minutes from Platt Lane, sending a couple of our coaches down there for a day or two to learn about Ballet training would be a useful addition to their skill sets...
Apparently a number of clubs are adding these exercisies to their Academy training with a view to improving strength and flexibility Equally the rehabilitation from these injuries would be helped by Ballet exercises to help prevent recurrance.
• Arsenal FC: Current first-team manager Mikel Arteta has actively explored and spoken about incorporating ballet concepts into Arsenal's physical training routines to maximize fluidity and body control.
• The "Barre" Trend: Rather than calling it "ballet," clubs across Europe routinely feature barre workouts and dynamic hip-mobility drills led by specialized club physiotherapists. This form of training is especially standard during pre-season camps to build "eccentric strength" in the feet, ankles, and inner thighs—muscles that are notoriously prone to groin pulls and sports hernias in soccer players.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport
Football Injury Vulnerability Cause Ballet Counter-Exercise Biomechanical Fix
Hamstring Strain Weakness during high-speed running extension Arabesque Eccentric strengthening of the posterior chain
Ankle Sprain Poor landing mechanics or weak lateral stabilizers Tendu / Relevé Increased intrinsic foot strength and proprioception
Groin Pull Overuse and tightness in the hip adductors Rond de Jambe Dynamic flexibility and active hip rotational control
ACL Tear Knee valgus (buckling inward) during sharp cuts Plié (with strict turnout alignment) Teaches knees to track safely over toes under load | | | |
| Hamstring Injuries on 12:10 - Oct 22 with 650 views | isitme |
You would always say that there is a difference between impact injuries and muscle injuries. There is a massive volume of work on prehab - training to prevent injury. With the use of GPS data etc there is also a clearer picture about loading during training and matches so that players can be substituted or training loads eased back. Pre-season can also be vital in building core fitness. Not only did we start late but a lot of players also joined later. You could also question the signing of players with histories of prior injury, although is that a risk versus reward gamble?
Let's look at the injury list:
Casey Pettit - Contact injury - Knee
Will Jenkins - Non contact injury - Knee
Ethan Ebanks-Landell - Unknown injury - suspected hamstring?
Nils Ramming - Torn thigh
Laurence Maguire - Torn calf
Tobi Adebayo-Rowling - Unknown
Ryan East - Contact injury - Broken toe
Kane Taylor - Unknown - looked to be a thigh injury
Jonny Smith - Unspecified 'leg' injury - suspected muscular
Mani D - Hamstring
Bryant Bilongo - Hamstring
Devante Rodney - Hip injury
Dan Moss - Contact injury - knee
Beckwith was also out with a hamstring injury and Maguire has already been out injured once with a muscle injury. Lots of muscle injuries, too many muscle injuries. Something needs to be looked at in the conditioning and training. |  | | |
| Hamstring Injuries on 12:54 - Oct 22 with 572 views | James1980 |
| Hamstring Injuries on 12:01 - Oct 22 by richfoad32 |
What would the cost be for a process such as this? Though I suppose any outlay would be mitigated by having players that have a higher chance of remaining on the pitch.
I'm not privy to what the club does or doesn't do involving players health and fitness, there seems to be a tacit acceptance that the trainers are at fault. Maybe they already are sanctioning a lot of what has been suggested and it's just been an extraordinarily freak year in terms of injuries? What are other clubs lists like? [Post edited 22 Oct 12:33]
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Looks like it would be a maximum of £300 per player so to do the entire squad just over £9K. | |
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| Hamstring Injuries on 13:10 - Oct 22 with 543 views | D_Alien |
| Hamstring Injuries on 12:54 - Oct 22 by James1980 |
Looks like it would be a maximum of £300 per player so to do the entire squad just over £9K. |
Is that a route players/clubs want to be going down?
Could make it more difficult to sell a player on, even if his injury record isn't bad, if his profile showed him prone to particular injuries. Or, hamper a player's prospects even if he stayed fit
Hell, might even result in youngsters having their profiles exclude them from being taken up by clubs
Better, surely, to put training regimes in place which try to mitigate against any player having muscle injuries |  |
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| Hamstring Injuries on 13:26 - Oct 22 with 501 views | 442Dale |
As mentioned the other night, Watson acknowledges the issue is being looked at. I’m sure they’re covering all bases, what with those involved being experts in their chosen professions. |  |
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| Hamstring Injuries on 13:35 - Oct 22 with 493 views | TVOS1907 |
| Hamstring Injuries on 13:26 - Oct 22 by 442Dale |
As mentioned the other night, Watson acknowledges the issue is being looked at. I’m sure they’re covering all bases, what with those involved being experts in their chosen professions. |
Yeah, but can they use AI? |  |
| Maestro? No.
Elite? No.
Heavyweight poster? No.
Able to be rational and not over-react to individual results? Yes. |
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| Hamstring Injuries on 14:22 - Oct 22 with 378 views | James1980 |
| Hamstring Injuries on 13:35 - Oct 22 by TVOS1907 |
Yeah, but can they use AI? |
like this
Rather than using DNA to rule out signings or bench players, progressive clubs that look at genetics generally use it as one data point among many. It might help tailor personalized recovery strategies, supplementation, or specific load-monitoring thresholds for a player, but it is rarely treated as a definitive crystal ball for injury prevention. | |
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| Hamstring Injuries on 14:34 - Oct 22 with 309 views | TVOS1907 |
| Hamstring Injuries on 14:22 - Oct 22 by James1980 |
like this
Rather than using DNA to rule out signings or bench players, progressive clubs that look at genetics generally use it as one data point among many. It might help tailor personalized recovery strategies, supplementation, or specific load-monitoring thresholds for a player, but it is rarely treated as a definitive crystal ball for injury prevention. |
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| Maestro? No.
Elite? No.
Heavyweight poster? No.
Able to be rational and not over-react to individual results? Yes. |
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| Hamstring Injuries on 14:37 - Oct 22 with 300 views | D_Alien |
| Hamstring Injuries on 14:22 - Oct 22 by James1980 |
like this
Rather than using DNA to rule out signings or bench players, progressive clubs that look at genetics generally use it as one data point among many. It might help tailor personalized recovery strategies, supplementation, or specific load-monitoring thresholds for a player, but it is rarely treated as a definitive crystal ball for injury prevention. |
Unlike this:
The term "rarely" is carrying a heavy load there (maybe someone should DNA profile it?) but there's also a major data issue; ownership. If the clubs are paying for the profile, who owns the data? Does the player carry it with them from club to club, like a passport? Profiling is also likely to flag other health issues or vulnerabilities. How might this affect players who suddenly find they're prone to a range of cancers, or other life-changing conditions? What if the club withholds this information from them?
It's an absolute minefield, and whilst some clubs may be dipping their toes into this to promote personalised training etc., in the longer term i wouldn't be at all surprised if it raised problems for the game that already has enough problems to deal with, on and off the field, largely to do with money
Club owners might even wish to set their own parameters on which players are bought/sold depending on profiling. Is that really what you'd like to see, James? [Post edited 22 Oct 14:38]
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| Hamstring Injuries on 15:26 - Oct 22 with 216 views | James1980 |
I will show my working.
Question asked of AI
Do football clubs check players genetic predisposition for injury risk?
The response
Some elite football clubs and advanced sports science departments explore or utilize genetic profiling, but its application remains a subject of ongoing debate, caution, and varying adoption across the industry.
Current Industry Practice
* Pioneering and Private Use: A subset of elite clubs (including select Premier League and top-flight European sides) have experimented with genetic and epigenetic screening. This is usually conducted quietly through private sports science partnerships rather than as a universal standard.
* The Markers Examined: When clubs or researchers look at genetic predispositions, they typically focus on specific biological systems:
* Connective Tissue: Genes like COL5A1, which influence collagen structure, tendon strength, and ligament resilience under explosive loads.
* Energy Metabolism & Fatigue: Markers like AMPD1, which relate to muscle fatigue resistance and recovery efficiency.
* Inflammation & Repair: Genes like IGF2, which affect tissue healing responses between congested fixtures.
Limitations and Skepticism
Despite commercial interest, many sports scientists and medical professionals treat commercial genetic injury panels with a high degree of skepticism for several reasons:
* Weak Predictive Power: Major systematic reviews note that the evidence base supporting genetics as a standalone prognostic or diagnostic tool for injury risk is currently weak. There is no single "injury gene"; football injuries are multifactorial, depending heavily on training loads, pitch conditions, opponent contact, and cumulative fatigue.
* Environmental Overrides: A player with a theoretical "high-risk" genetic marker who follows rigorous load management, strength conditioning, and recovery protocols will often have a lower absolute injury risk than a "low-risk" player subjected to poor workload management.
* Actionability: Critics argue that genetic insights rarely change what a medical team should be doing anyway. Good practice—such as monitoring GPS data, tracking fatigue, optimizing nutrition, and prescribing strength work—remains essential for every player regardless of their DNA.
How It Is Actually Used
Rather than using DNA to rule out signings or bench players, progressive clubs that look at genetics generally use it as one data point among many. It might help tailor personalized recovery strategies, supplementation, or specific load-monitoring thresholds for a player, but it is rarely treated as a definitive crystal ball for injury prevention. | |
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| Hamstring Injuries on 15:38 - Oct 22 with 199 views | James1980 |
| Hamstring Injuries on 14:37 - Oct 22 by D_Alien |
Unlike this:
The term "rarely" is carrying a heavy load there (maybe someone should DNA profile it?) but there's also a major data issue; ownership. If the clubs are paying for the profile, who owns the data? Does the player carry it with them from club to club, like a passport? Profiling is also likely to flag other health issues or vulnerabilities. How might this affect players who suddenly find they're prone to a range of cancers, or other life-changing conditions? What if the club withholds this information from them?
It's an absolute minefield, and whilst some clubs may be dipping their toes into this to promote personalised training etc., in the longer term i wouldn't be at all surprised if it raised problems for the game that already has enough problems to deal with, on and off the field, largely to do with money
Club owners might even wish to set their own parameters on which players are bought/sold depending on profiling. Is that really what you'd like to see, James? [Post edited 22 Oct 14:38]
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There was me just looking at a way to prevent further injuries and adapting training programs to get players available for the match day squad as quickly as possible using all tools available. You are right to point out the much wider implications. | |
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| Hamstring Injuries on 16:35 - Oct 22 with 111 views | D_Alien |
| Hamstring Injuries on 15:38 - Oct 22 by James1980 |
There was me just looking at a way to prevent further injuries and adapting training programs to get players available for the match day squad as quickly as possible using all tools available. You are right to point out the much wider implications. |
It could still become a useful tool, but if it were to become more widespread would likely require some kind of regulation, and in a game that's already straining under the weight of regulations | |
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