| European super league 15:28 - Apr 18 with 59761 views | qpr_1968 |
can anyone see it taking off.
talks of 6 clubs from the premier.
on sky news now. |  |
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| European super league on 23:03 - Apr 20 with 2090 views | aston_hoop |
They've all quit. I guess the next stage is going to be telling the Premier league they want more voting rights otherwise they might re-consider it. Everyone has been played. |  |
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| European super league on 03:10 - Apr 21 with 1949 views | nadera78 |
And just like that all talk of punishment for the clubs involved and desperately needed reform of football's governance and structures disappears. F everyone involved in this poisoned game, from top to bottom. | | | |
| European super league on 04:26 - Apr 21 with 1931 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
Tuchel really is a creep. | | | |
| European super league on 05:42 - Apr 21 with 1897 views | BrisbaneR |
So, have these so-called super clubs called their own bluff now?
For years they have kept the 'we'll go and form our own league' card in their back pocket when it came to restructuring domestic and European competition, and funds distribution, but when they have voluntarily played it, it didn't get them what they wanted at all. The emperor has no clothes.
Now we've all seen how craven they are, the next round of negotiation about voting rights, TV money or anything else can be conducted knowing that they don't have the power, so we should absolutely not give up more to them, in fact its time to reclaim some. | | | |
| European super league on 06:32 - Apr 21 with 1869 views | johnhoop |
So what level of sanctions do we think would be appropriate for the scummy six?
Given the fact that we were fined 40 million quid for transgressing the rules of the competition we were in by overspending, what conceivable degree of punishment could possibly be enough for actually trying to break up the structure of that competition? | | | |
| European super league on 06:34 - Apr 21 with 1857 views | The_Beast1976 |
| European super league on 03:10 - Apr 21 by nadera78 |
And just like that all talk of punishment for the clubs involved and desperately needed reform of football's governance and structures disappears. F everyone involved in this poisoned game, from top to bottom. |
That's about the size of it.
To make matters worse (if it could actually get any worse), now all the Chel**a 'fans' are proclaiming that they have saved English football. They think football is solely the Premiershit and CL. Cnu ts. Makes me so angry.
It's the last straw for me. I'm done with football once and for all I think (unless the authorities use their new found bargaining position to reform the game in a positive way and look after all clubs in the pyramid, but that's not going to happen). But then Rangers go and win and Swansea and make you think twice..... [Post edited 21 Apr 2021 7:04]
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| European super league on 06:57 - Apr 21 with 1828 views | distortR |
| European super league on 06:32 - Apr 21 by johnhoop |
So what level of sanctions do we think would be appropriate for the scummy six?
Given the fact that we were fined 40 million quid for transgressing the rules of the competition we were in by overspending, what conceivable degree of punishment could possibly be enough for actually trying to break up the structure of that competition? |
ha! you've been very bad, now you'll have to go and negotiate your own tv deals.... | | | |
| European super league on 06:59 - Apr 21 with 1816 views | johnhoop |
| European super league on 06:57 - Apr 21 by distortR |
ha! you've been very bad, now you'll have to go and negotiate your own tv deals.... |
Yep, I guess in reality that'll be about it! | | | |
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| European super league on 07:02 - Apr 21 with 1809 views | distortR |
| European super league on 20:18 - Apr 20 by VancouverHoop |
Real may be left to play with themselves. Which they find enjoyable I understand. |
well, i don't subscribe to sky, but i do regularly pay to watch this wo....................
actually, best not | | | |
| European super league on 07:05 - Apr 21 with 1795 views | davman |
| European super league on 19:14 - Apr 20 by toboboly |
There still need to be serious ramifications. The 6 clubs need to be dealt with incredibly harshly |
They won't be though. Just a visible "ticking off" and maybe a tokenistic fine. Letting them stew until the next incarnation.
Expect UEFA to bend to them though - expect the plans for the Champ League to change to suit.
Face it, these clubs have more financial muscle and acumen than those in charge of the se ruling bodies.
Ultimately they hold the cards and FIFA, UEFA, the FA and the Premier League will do what they can to keep them happy and involved. |  |
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| European super league on 07:18 - Apr 21 with 1766 views | dmm |
Football supporters' outrage must not stop now. We must insist on the reform of football structures beginning with mandatory supporters' representation on the board of UK clubs. |  | | |
| European super league on 07:34 - Apr 21 with 1717 views | Phildo |
| European super league on 07:18 - Apr 21 by dmm |
Football supporters' outrage must not stop now. We must insist on the reform of football structures beginning with mandatory supporters' representation on the board of UK clubs. |
Totally agree- they will never be weaker than they are today |  | | |
| European super league on 07:35 - Apr 21 with 1715 views | wood_hoop |
Not quite sure why the sudden turnaround, was good to see many genuine football fans voice their opinions more or less off the same page ,even those of the unspeakable name.
Must have been some pressure brought on the 6, somehow I doubt it was fan pressure alone, to the oiks that run the breakway clubs fans just a cashcow to bleed dry.
Maybe I was a bit harsh on our PM and behind the scences more than a bit of arm twisting was taking place, to go against JP Morgan takes more than a bit of power that the clubs could muster. |  | | |
| European super league on 08:21 - Apr 21 with 1640 views | nadera78 |
| European super league on 22:58 - Apr 20 by Esox_Lucius |
It now looks like all 6 English clubs are withdrawing. I wonder what the response from JP Morgan will be? |
If it's true they signed contracts then it's likely they will be in far more trouble with JP Morgan than with the football authorities. | | | |
| European super league on 09:26 - Apr 21 with 1563 views | Paddyhoops |
Lee Hoos is speaking on BBC 5 live about the whole sorry saga.
He's discussing the posssible effects on our club.
He talks a lot of sense . We're lucky to have him. | | | |
| European super league on 10:03 - Apr 21 with 1494 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| European super league on 09:26 - Apr 21 by Paddyhoops |
Lee Hoos is speaking on BBC 5 live about the whole sorry saga.
He's discussing the posssible effects on our club.
He talks a lot of sense . We're lucky to have him. |
Can't find a link as yet. Would like to listen to it. |  |
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| European super league on 10:29 - Apr 21 with 1411 views | Sott |
| European super league on 10:03 - Apr 21 by BrianMcCarthy |
Can't find a link as yet. Would like to listen to it. |
Went onto BBC sounds to get it |  | | |
| European super league on 10:32 - Apr 21 with 1403 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| European super league on 09:26 - Apr 21 by Paddyhoops |
Lee Hoos is speaking on BBC 5 live about the whole sorry saga.
He's discussing the posssible effects on our club.
He talks a lot of sense . We're lucky to have him. |
I agree, but let’s be honest, if we were invited he and the board would be up there like a rat up a drainpipe! |  | | |
| European super league on 10:38 - Apr 21 with 1393 views | dmm |
The culture secretary, Oliver Dowden, has said this morning: “The German clubs didn’t participate in this [Super League] proposal. One of the points that was made to me by fans when the prime minister and I met with them was the fact that there was that financial stake,” he told LBC radio.
“I think we should look at it,” he said. International investment in football has been a good thing. It has increased the quality of the game and the players and everything else … but I do think it is right that we look at how fans can have a stake in the game.”
A governance review into football was pledged in the Tory 2019 election manifesto but has never happened. I hope a football supporter's campaign group is formed to put pressure on the Government to get this done and not just use the ESL fiasco for it's own political purposes. | | | |
| European super league on 10:57 - Apr 21 with 1349 views | Esox_Lucius |
| European super league on 08:21 - Apr 21 by nadera78 |
If it's true they signed contracts then it's likely they will be in far more trouble with JP Morgan than with the football authorities. |
That's what I thought, and why I raised the question. Their asset management side will be out for blood IMO. |  |
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| European super league on 11:01 - Apr 21 with 1332 views | paulparker |
And the " football family " pats itself on the back for a job well done |  |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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| European super league on 11:03 - Apr 21 with 1326 views | paulparker |
| European super league on 11:01 - Apr 21 by paulparker |
And the " football family " pats itself on the back for a job well done |
this despite the fact that
players wages are obscene
stupid kick off times
obscene ticket prices
betting companies galore
sky & BT subscriptions through the roof
VAR
thank god we can now breath a sigh of relief and get back to normal | |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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| European super league on 11:19 - Apr 21 with 1288 views | Paddyhoops |
| European super league on 10:32 - Apr 21 by BazzaInTheLoft |
I agree, but let’s be honest, if we were invited he and the board would be up there like a rat up a drainpipe! |
Bit cynical Baz. You could be right though.
We've got closer to winning a leauge title than Spurs in the last 60 years so maybe not such a fanciful notion. | | | |
| European super league on 11:31 - Apr 21 with 2320 views | danehoop |
I mentioned previously the government had two immediate levers on this : work visas and taxation. They had implied they may look at the first one, but the real pressure was around the latter. They made clear very quickly that they would look to legislate rapidly on windfall taxes and given the state of government finances and the likely popularity of hitting the 6 clubs involved it would have been an easy win for them.
I think that threat to finances as much as populist backlash is what changed the calculations for these clubs. Easy enough to ride out what they knew was likely to be a short term media storm domestically if they went down this planned route because the financial and operational benefits more than outweighed PR issues. If the financial benefits are reduced though (and you can be sure some of the other countries involved would have been closely observing what we were doing) then it becomes a much less attractive proposal (at least for now).
Wouldn't be surprised if we start seeing a lot of financial re-engineering over the next year or so to see as much revenue as possible being further shielded from UK tax authorities. |  |
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| European super league on 11:42 - Apr 21 with 2277 views | CamberleyR |
The last time England's top six fell this quickly they were facing Shane Warne and Glenn McGrath. |  |
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