| Still was the problem 22:00 - Nov 5 with 5341 views | Southamptonfan |
Not convincing but we are fragile, nervous, under pressure and not used to winning. We battled hard for the win, and scored two goals. As wins come, it will get less and less chaotic.
Robertson scored and this is a player that Will Still never played. Stephens was decent.
As I said, now Will Still has gone, he was terrible, things will.improve. [Post edited 5 Nov 22:01]
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| Still was the problem on 22:02 - Nov 5 with 4316 views | dirk_doone |
We still have a very poor squad, and there's no getting round that, but at least we are above Pompey in the league now.
Realistically, if we can grind out a few more wins, including one at Fratton Park to stay above Pompey, whoever's in charge will have done as much as you could hope for with this squad. Of course, if we buy a decent centre forward and goalkeeper in January, more is possible. [Post edited 5 Nov 22:07]
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| Still was the problem on 22:12 - Nov 5 with 4230 views | grumpy |
That was a difficult game for Tonda bearing in mind he took over a side that was so lacking in confidence.Lets not forget he hasn't much of a strike force to choose from and some important injuries.
Well done Tonda.
Not sure he is the man to take the helm permanently but has to be congratulated for the the 3 points.
Perhaps he could be a number 2 for the incoming boss?
Carry on Tonda,you never know................
PS New Goalkeeper and Centre Forward in January please. [Post edited 5 Nov 22:14]
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| Still was the problem on 22:25 - Nov 5 with 4155 views | DorsetIan |
| Still was the problem on 22:12 - Nov 5 by grumpy |
That was a difficult game for Tonda bearing in mind he took over a side that was so lacking in confidence.Lets not forget he hasn't much of a strike force to choose from and some important injuries.
Well done Tonda.
Not sure he is the man to take the helm permanently but has to be congratulated for the the 3 points.
Perhaps he could be a number 2 for the incoming boss?
Carry on Tonda,you never know................
PS New Goalkeeper and Centre Forward in January please. [Post edited 5 Nov 22:14]
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We weren't great and at the end we were defending like a L2 side holding on to Cup lead against higher league opposition...
...but we got the win and I thought we looked quite a bit more fluid and quicker than under Still.
Thinking back we always looked so mechanical and lacking any freedom under Still. Almost as if the manager had learned all about football from a tactics book, and never played the game...oh wait a minute...
We give managers plenty of stick. Tonda gets the credit for this win and if he can follow it up with another on Saturday, he will have had a major impact on the course of this season. | |
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| Still was the problem on 22:27 - Nov 5 with 4147 views | DorsetIan |
| Still was the problem on 22:12 - Nov 5 by grumpy |
That was a difficult game for Tonda bearing in mind he took over a side that was so lacking in confidence.Lets not forget he hasn't much of a strike force to choose from and some important injuries.
Well done Tonda.
Not sure he is the man to take the helm permanently but has to be congratulated for the the 3 points.
Perhaps he could be a number 2 for the incoming boss?
Carry on Tonda,you never know................
PS New Goalkeeper and Centre Forward in January please. [Post edited 5 Nov 22:14]
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We weren't great and at the end we were defending like a L2 side holding on to Cup lead against higher league opposition...
...but we got the win and I thought we looked quite a bit more fluid and quicker than under Still.
Thinking back we always looked so mechanical and lacking any freedom under Still. Almost as if the manager had learned all about football from a tactics book, and never played the game...oh wait a minute...
We give managers plenty of stick. Tonda gets the credit for this win and if he can follow it up with another on Saturday, he will have had a major impact on the course of this season. | |
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| Still was the problem on 22:35 - Nov 5 with 4093 views | saint22 |
| Still was the problem on 22:27 - Nov 5 by DorsetIan |
We weren't great and at the end we were defending like a L2 side holding on to Cup lead against higher league opposition...
...but we got the win and I thought we looked quite a bit more fluid and quicker than under Still.
Thinking back we always looked so mechanical and lacking any freedom under Still. Almost as if the manager had learned all about football from a tactics book, and never played the game...oh wait a minute...
We give managers plenty of stick. Tonda gets the credit for this win and if he can follow it up with another on Saturday, he will have had a major impact on the course of this season. |
A wins a win but he HAS to follow that up with another Saturday or what's the point | | | |
| Still was the problem on 07:53 - Nov 6 with 3783 views | Heisenberg |
Sorry to burst everyone’s bubble but we scraped that win. Far too defensive for the last 20 minutes just hoofing the ball up to no one with everyone behind the ball. It was a deflection for the first goal and a cracking second but apart from that we didn’t create anything. At one point we were playing long balls up to Armstrong. Bazunu isn’t good enough.
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| Still was the problem on 07:59 - Nov 6 with 3764 views | Glogly |
| Still was the problem on 07:53 - Nov 6 by Heisenberg |
Sorry to burst everyone’s bubble but we scraped that win. Far too defensive for the last 20 minutes just hoofing the ball up to no one with everyone behind the ball. It was a deflection for the first goal and a cracking second but apart from that we didn’t create anything. At one point we were playing long balls up to Armstrong. Bazunu isn’t good enough.
Get to a back 4 for a start. |
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| Still was the problem on 08:22 - Nov 6 with 3702 views | Butty101 |
Who is Robertson?
Im not sure you can say Still was the problem after 1 stuffy win.
We need a set of players that try all the time, not just when they feel like it. |  |
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| Still was the problem on 08:46 - Nov 6 with 3655 views | MattFinish |
| Still was the problem on 08:22 - Nov 6 by Butty101 |
Who is Robertson?
Im not sure you can say Still was the problem after 1 stuffy win.
We need a set of players that try all the time, not just when they feel like it. |
Totally agree Butty.
Still was inexperienced and probably out of his depth but Still wasn’t the problem.
We are 3 wins away from top six. If Still had a striker things may have been different. Let’s face it our forwards have spaffed numerous easy chances that would probably have put us close to the top two and we’ve hit the woodwork 9 times this season. Had some of those draws and defeats been the victories they would have been with a decent striker we’d have built confidence and momentum.
The problem wasn’t Still - the problem is our recruitment [Post edited 6 Nov 8:47]
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| Still was the problem on 10:01 - Nov 6 with 3544 views | Monksway |
No sure quite what the improvement was last night apart from the result. I don't think that was Tonda's side, more Stephens, THB, Downes, Manning etc deciding to put a shift in to justify themselves for getting rid of Still. Scienza is a class apart,, Robinson has real potential but neither will dig us out every week. | | | |
| Still was the problem on 10:11 - Nov 6 with 3517 views | dirk_doone |
| Still was the problem on 10:01 - Nov 6 by Monksway |
No sure quite what the improvement was last night apart from the result. I don't think that was Tonda's side, more Stephens, THB, Downes, Manning etc deciding to put a shift in to justify themselves for getting rid of Still. Scienza is a class apart,, Robinson has real potential but neither will dig us out every week. |
Finishing or luck? But, Robinson and Scienza scored with our only 2 shots on target last night.
The stats show just how one-sided it was:
QPR 12 corners, 20 shots at goal; 5 on target
Saints 1 corner, 9 shots at goal. 2 on target
The xG says QPR should have won.
Most of the season the stats for our matches have been the exact opposite of that. [Post edited 6 Nov 10:16]
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| Still was the problem on 10:25 - Nov 6 with 3481 views | GRIM |
| Still was the problem on 10:11 - Nov 6 by dirk_doone |
Finishing or luck? But, Robinson and Scienza scored with our only 2 shots on target last night.
The stats show just how one-sided it was:
QPR 12 corners, 20 shots at goal; 5 on target
Saints 1 corner, 9 shots at goal. 2 on target
The xG says QPR should have won.
Most of the season the stats for our matches have been the exact opposite of that. [Post edited 6 Nov 10:16]
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Who cares about xG's.
It's a ridiculous statistic.
It's goals scored & goals conceded that count & just for once we scored more than the opposition. | | | |
| Still was the problem on 10:41 - Nov 6 with 3452 views | PatfromPoole |
I am no fan of Brent and his narcissistic ways.
However....
Two seasons ago, we would have closed that game out and kept the ball, preventing the oppo having chances to score.
I was in the away end last night, and I sensed a feeling of inevitability amongst the fans that we would concede an equaliser.
We simply couldn't keep the ball, and it was like having 9 men with Downs and Azaz on the pitch at the end.
The ref was a coont, mind. Giving them free-kicks for everything, and then penalising Bazunu at the end for holding on to the ball too long right at the end was the act of somebody who clearly had a bet on a draw. [Post edited 6 Nov 10:42]
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| Still was the problem on 10:42 - Nov 6 with 3441 views | SonicBoom |
Recruitment is key. Get right and you are brighton and Bournemouth for a few years. Get it wrong and you're, well....us.
Watching last night changed my mind. I did think like nick, that we are a good squad badly managed but with great potential
Now I think we aren't actually that good and the mentality is extremely weak. The panic when they scored tells you everything. |  | | |
| Still was the problem on 10:46 - Nov 6 with 3430 views | MytchettSaint |
| Still was the problem on 10:41 - Nov 6 by PatfromPoole |
I am no fan of Brent and his narcissistic ways.
However....
Two seasons ago, we would have closed that game out and kept the ball, preventing the oppo having chances to score.
I was in the away end last night, and I sensed a feeling of inevitability amongst the fans that we would concede an equaliser.
We simply couldn't keep the ball, and it was like having 9 men with Downs and Azaz on the pitch at the end.
The ref was a coont, mind. Giving them free-kicks for everything, and then penalising Bazunu at the end for holding on to the ball too long right at the end was the act of somebody who clearly had a bet on a draw. [Post edited 6 Nov 10:42]
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I wish we could be more cynical in killing off other teams momentum when we're on the back foot. I know it's anti football but it seems every other team in the league is savvy enough to know to get your centre forward, then your goalkeeper, then a wide player to go down with an injury. Breaking up any momentum the other team are building. That is basic stuff, we just don't seem to do it when we're under the cosh and trying to hold on for something. |  |
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| Still was the problem on 10:53 - Nov 6 with 3416 views | Ifonly |
Let's get real, that was no better than against Preston. Preston were a good championship side, QPR are sh1t and lost their last home game 1-4. Under WS we were dominating most games but making errors at both ends. Last night if any side dominated it was QPR. Perhaps the one thing that changed was our luck. | | | |
| Still was the problem on 11:33 - Nov 6 with 3376 views | PatfromPoole |
| Still was the problem on 10:53 - Nov 6 by Ifonly |
Let's get real, that was no better than against Preston. Preston were a good championship side, QPR are sh1t and lost their last home game 1-4. Under WS we were dominating most games but making errors at both ends. Last night if any side dominated it was QPR. Perhaps the one thing that changed was our luck. |
In young fan speak, it seems that Eckert coached a defeat last night.
But then I was called an old coont by a female in our end last night, what do I know? | |
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| Still was the problem on 12:49 - Nov 6 with 3308 views | DorsetIan |
| Still was the problem on 11:33 - Nov 6 by PatfromPoole |
In young fan speak, it seems that Eckert coached a defeat last night.
But then I was called an old coont by a female in our end last night, what do I know? |
Pat, if you want to continue to mix it with the kids on the terraces you’ll need to post a diss track about her on TikTok pretty sharpish.
Would help if you got her name. | |
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| Still was the problem on 12:57 - Nov 6 with 3277 views | Sadoldgit |
| Still was the problem on 08:22 - Nov 6 by Butty101 |
Who is Robertson?
Im not sure you can say Still was the problem after 1 stuffy win.
We need a set of players that try all the time, not just when they feel like it. |
He did use Robinson.
The performance last night was very similar to the others. The only difference being we only conceded 1 and managed to put two chances away.
Still was part of a greater problem which any new manager will still (no pun intended) have to deal with. |  | | |
| Still was the problem on 19:43 - Nov 6 with 3096 views | UTS1885 |
We may have won, but it was horrendous and its more than just the manager. |  | | |
| Still was the problem on 20:14 - Nov 6 with 3060 views | saint22 |
| Still was the problem on 07:59 - Nov 6 by Glogly |
This. |
Why is a solid back 4 such an alien concept to all our managers??? | | | |
| Still was the problem on 21:54 - Nov 6 with 2984 views | Southamptonfan |
| Still was the problem on 10:25 - Nov 6 by GRIM |
Who cares about xG's.
It's a ridiculous statistic.
It's goals scored & goals conceded that count & just for once we scored more than the opposition. |
I agree. We won a game. One nil up at Blackburn, and Still brought off Sciensa
We went on to lose. Still lost us that game, so he is to blame, right? That substitution lost us the game. Ofcourse recruitment has been terrible overall, but we still have a team capable of more than it has been showing.
Yesterday was the first time Stephens, Robertson, Sciensa, Fellows, F Downs were all in the team from the start. Two of those players scored. Again, that was Still making those bad decisions not to play them. As Nick said in his review of the game, the only stat that matters is the final result.
It doesn't matter how poor QPR are. They are higher than Blackburn, higher than Pompey and we didn't beat them? Yesterday we won the game away from home, because Still has gone and we got it over the line, yes a bit nervy, but much more resilience and togetherness I have seen all season and without stupid substitutions. Whatever we think of Stephens, we gave him a 3 year contract, made him captainand the Still threw him out of the team. He played well last night, so dropping him was again a big mistake.. [Post edited 6 Nov 22:08]
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| Still was the problem on 23:36 - Nov 6 with 2903 views | Ifonly |
| Still was the problem on 21:54 - Nov 6 by Southamptonfan |
I agree. We won a game. One nil up at Blackburn, and Still brought off Sciensa
We went on to lose. Still lost us that game, so he is to blame, right? That substitution lost us the game. Ofcourse recruitment has been terrible overall, but we still have a team capable of more than it has been showing.
Yesterday was the first time Stephens, Robertson, Sciensa, Fellows, F Downs were all in the team from the start. Two of those players scored. Again, that was Still making those bad decisions not to play them. As Nick said in his review of the game, the only stat that matters is the final result.
It doesn't matter how poor QPR are. They are higher than Blackburn, higher than Pompey and we didn't beat them? Yesterday we won the game away from home, because Still has gone and we got it over the line, yes a bit nervy, but much more resilience and togetherness I have seen all season and without stupid substitutions. Whatever we think of Stephens, we gave him a 3 year contract, made him captainand the Still threw him out of the team. He played well last night, so dropping him was again a big mistake.. [Post edited 6 Nov 22:08]
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You've got some great ideas there:
- Don't substitute Scienza even though the manager's been advised not to risk him over 90 mins as that might mean losing him for 6 weeks
- Always play Downes no matter how ill he is
- Never make the mistake of dropping JS no matter how rubbish he is
Any other gems you've been thinking about?
p.s. Robertson, Sciensa and F Downs were not in the Saints team yesterday, in fact they're not even Saints players at all | | | |
| Still was the problem on 23:43 - Nov 6 with 2881 views | Southamptonfan |
| Still was the problem on 23:36 - Nov 6 by Ifonly |
You've got some great ideas there:
- Don't substitute Scienza even though the manager's been advised not to risk him over 90 mins as that might mean losing him for 6 weeks
- Always play Downes no matter how ill he is
- Never make the mistake of dropping JS no matter how rubbish he is
Any other gems you've been thinking about?
p.s. Robertson, Sciensa and F Downs were not in the Saints team yesterday, in fact they're not even Saints players at all |
The main thing is that I got my wish and he was sacked, as did the whole ground who roundly booed him against Preston. The board acted and got rid, something I predicted in the summer. Common sense prevailed, that his inexperience showed and he was sacked. Great to see the very experienced Romeu brought in, as a result of the team being so badly led without that experience needed. In the first game without Still we won, so happy days for me and I was right that he wouldn't last. I said he should be sacked and the club obviously agreed that he made terrible decisions, as they sacked him. Let's hope we win again on Saturday, back to back league wins, something we never achieved under Still. [Post edited 7 Nov 0:58]
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| Still was the problem on 18:05 - Nov 8 with 2538 views | Southamptonfan |
Oh look, what a surprise. We play top championship players like Azaz and Fellows from the start, bring back captain Jack and we win. The players also played for the shirt today. That's 2 wins in a row now that Still has gone. That dreadful.manager has gone, the players are now fighting for the shirt, the fans are back and what great game to watch today. A much happier Saints fan tonight, having known what was best. | |
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