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| Refwatch - Rochdale v Southend United on 20:04 - Jan 28 with 1309 views | 442Dale |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v Southend United on 19:04 - Jan 28 by D_Alien |
It was noticeable last night how patient the crowd has become, absolutely due to our record and league position this time round. Of course, the two things are connected (style and form) but it's only natural for one or two sighs/groans to be heard when it appears the ball has been recycled which results in lost momentum from a promising position
We're getting better all the time with variations, although it appeared EEL and Mani D were on different wavelengths when we went long a couple of times - something that can be rectified in training... Mani D starting a run into space a split second before/after EEL releases the pass to where he was before
Before he was subbed, Rodney appeared to drop a bit deeper when he should've been closer to Mani. Pettit arriving gave our midfield more of an anchor, thus allowing Gilmour and Pritchard the freedom to press further upfield, resulting in the winner |
Nobody minds the odd groan really. It’s when it becomes frustration that could impact the calmness out on the pitch that it’ll become an issue. Would hope that won’t happen now and if it does it can be ignored by the players.
The work they’ve put in over such a long time, sometimes with results not going how we’d all want, has steeled them for where we are now too. The consistent improvement in play and results has been evident over the last couple of years, reaching its culmination with the ability to shrug off a defeat and carry on regardless.
It’s good that the patience has been recognised. And to be fair support within the ground during two promotion chasing campaigns has been mainly positive throughout. [Post edited 28 Jan 20:05]
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| Refwatch - Rochdale v Southend United on 20:09 - Jan 28 with 1285 views | Daley_Lama |
Two further questions from me, sorry TVOS but it is Q&A time it seems.
Is the 10 yellow/37 game rule against club games played rather than player?
What is/was the game quota for 5 yellows please?
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| Refwatch - Rochdale v Southend United on 20:26 - Jan 28 with 1209 views | TVOS1907 |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v Southend United on 20:09 - Jan 28 by Daley_Lama |
Two further questions from me, sorry TVOS but it is Q&A time it seems.
Is the 10 yellow/37 game rule against club games played rather than player?
What is/was the game quota for 5 yellows please?
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No worries, DL, you've asked politely.
It's games played by the team, as explained here for the Premier League: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/fo
For 5 yellows it was 19 games. [Post edited 28 Jan 22:32]
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| Refwatch - Rochdale v Southend United on 20:48 - Jan 28 with 1124 views | Daley_Lama |
Thanking you kindly sire. | |
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| Refwatch - Rochdale v Southend United on 20:57 - Jan 28 with 1103 views | fermin |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v Southend United on 20:00 - Jan 28 by tony_roch975 |
TVOS do you know where we sit in the fair play league - I'd guess pretty high from those stats? |
Top, according to https://www.transfermarkt.co.u |  | | |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v Southend United on 21:10 - Jan 28 with 1052 views | TVOS1907 |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v Southend United on 20:00 - Jan 28 by tony_roch975 |
TVOS do you know where we sit in the fair play league - I'd guess pretty high from those stats? |
I only have Dale records, Tony, but fermin's link is probably fairly accurate. | |
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| Refwatch - Rochdale v Southend United on 21:46 - Jan 28 with 977 views | 49thseason |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v Southend United on 18:24 - Jan 28 by TVOS1907 |
Anyway...
The next cut off point is 10 yellows in 37 National League matches, which would lead to a two-match ban. We are currently at:
6 Mani D
5 Gordon
4 Ebanks-Landell & Gilmour
3 Moss
2 Adebayo-Rowling, Barlow & Pettit
1 Beckwith, East, Gomez-Mancini, McBride, Myles, Pritchard, Rodney, Tutonda & Whatmuff |
As someone commented up-thread, winning is everything.. do I get bored watching the side to side shuffle ? Yes I do. Do I wish we had a winger who could race past a fullback and leave him for dead? Absolutely, and a re- make of Murray, Holt or Lambert to get on the end of his crosses would be wonderful... proper football, BUT.. getting into the car and driving home with a big grin on my face and not wanting to kick the next-door's cat when I get there is brilliant. Winning isn't quite "everything" but its the best thing as far as football is concerned. At long last we may well be able to tell others about the season we won game after game and lifted a trophy.....and noone will give a toss about how we did it... |  | | |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v Southend United on 22:12 - Jan 28 with 904 views | 442Dale |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v Southend United on 21:46 - Jan 28 by 49thseason |
As someone commented up-thread, winning is everything.. do I get bored watching the side to side shuffle ? Yes I do. Do I wish we had a winger who could race past a fullback and leave him for dead? Absolutely, and a re- make of Murray, Holt or Lambert to get on the end of his crosses would be wonderful... proper football, BUT.. getting into the car and driving home with a big grin on my face and not wanting to kick the next-door's cat when I get there is brilliant. Winning isn't quite "everything" but its the best thing as far as football is concerned. At long last we may well be able to tell others about the season we won game after game and lifted a trophy.....and noone will give a toss about how we did it... |
It was often noted on here how it is a results business. Allowing time for those results to get better, month on month, year on year, was vital. If we’d reacted too hastily to the bad defeats, we wouldn’t have continued to improve.
If results had taken a significant downturn of course we wouldn’t be where we are now. They didn’t and we now have a team playing some great football and winning games.
The teams of the past had some cracking individuals capable of some great moments. They didn’t always, unfortunately, have the chance to play in such a well drilled football teams as now. The 4-3-3 Holt and Lambert were more often than not utilised in was indeed a great example of this. The way it fell apart when one or both weren’t in it proved that.
The best thing about recent years is we are no longer falling apart when we lose individual players or games. Contrast to the previous half decade and the change couldn’t be any more significant. | |
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| Refwatch - Rochdale v Southend United on 06:36 - Jan 29 with 605 views | TalkingSutty |
Something else that is worthy of mention is the technical ability of our players. Against Southend I was watching the first touch when they receive the ball in tight spaces, the control and movement. It's on a higher level than the National League and it's something that has definitely improved this season, that's down to the hard work on the training ground.These players are actually improving and the manager and his coaches have to take a lot of credit for that. It takes bravery and self belief to play like that, especially in big games and against quality opposition like Southend.
The affection the fans have for these players is something i haven't witnessed in 50 years of supporting the club, it surpasses the Keith Hill teams i think and that's no disrespect to them. Players who wear their heart on their sleeve and have a real relationship with the fans. This hasn't happened by accident though, it's been at the very core of McNulty's masterplan to bring back the soul of the club and repair the terrible damage caused by others. Amazing work by Jim.
The players also have confidence in the new pitch, i don't think the importance of having a quality pitch can be underplayed and we saw it with the winning goal on Tuesday, precise passing, close control in a tight space and players not second guessing the playing surface. Pritchards movement, close control, coolness and speed of thought was brilliant to see, pure class that. He's a proper footballer Pritchard. So yes, some passages of our play might not fit in with how everybody enjoys watching football ( you'll always get that) but in general we are playing some fabulous stuff, especially when we kick it up a gear.
The club is getting stronger and stronger both on and off the pitch and it's brilliant to see. [Post edited 29 Jan 7:57]
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| Refwatch - Rochdale v Southend United on 09:15 - Jan 29 with 417 views | D_Alien |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v Southend United on 06:36 - Jan 29 by TalkingSutty |
Something else that is worthy of mention is the technical ability of our players. Against Southend I was watching the first touch when they receive the ball in tight spaces, the control and movement. It's on a higher level than the National League and it's something that has definitely improved this season, that's down to the hard work on the training ground.These players are actually improving and the manager and his coaches have to take a lot of credit for that. It takes bravery and self belief to play like that, especially in big games and against quality opposition like Southend.
The affection the fans have for these players is something i haven't witnessed in 50 years of supporting the club, it surpasses the Keith Hill teams i think and that's no disrespect to them. Players who wear their heart on their sleeve and have a real relationship with the fans. This hasn't happened by accident though, it's been at the very core of McNulty's masterplan to bring back the soul of the club and repair the terrible damage caused by others. Amazing work by Jim.
The players also have confidence in the new pitch, i don't think the importance of having a quality pitch can be underplayed and we saw it with the winning goal on Tuesday, precise passing, close control in a tight space and players not second guessing the playing surface. Pritchards movement, close control, coolness and speed of thought was brilliant to see, pure class that. He's a proper footballer Pritchard. So yes, some passages of our play might not fit in with how everybody enjoys watching football ( you'll always get that) but in general we are playing some fabulous stuff, especially when we kick it up a gear.
The club is getting stronger and stronger both on and off the pitch and it's brilliant to see. [Post edited 29 Jan 7:57]
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Mentioned improvement to our midfield in terms of touch, awareness and passing earlier, but you're right, it goes for all the players. Even Whatmuff can pick a pass, and did so between two Southend forwards in the first half to Gordon that needed to be precise and properly weighted
The players can buy into this since it'll enhance their career prospects, in an enjoyable winning atmosphere. I do think JM has genuine loyalty to the club. That's not to say he won't move on at some stage but i can't see it happening in the way it did with KH
There's a feeling of more to come, as there was with our 68/69 side and both promotion teams under KH. We then hit a barrier, probably a financial one, and talk of "if we make it to the Championship, we might need a managed relegation". I can recall the forum when this phrase was first used; that's probably where the rot set in, alongside certain individuals. We're only just recovering from all that, but the groundwork (literally) is now in place as never before [Post edited 29 Jan 13:07]
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| Refwatch - Rochdale v Southend United on 11:33 - Jan 29 with 233 views | samueloneils |
| Refwatch - Rochdale v Southend United on 18:24 - Jan 28 by TVOS1907 |
Anyway...
The next cut off point is 10 yellows in 37 National League matches, which would lead to a two-match ban. We are currently at:
6 Mani D
5 Gordon
4 Ebanks-Landell & Gilmour
3 Moss
2 Adebayo-Rowling, Barlow & Pettit
1 Beckwith, East, Gomez-Mancini, McBride, Myles, Pritchard, Rodney, Tutonda & Whatmuff |
Thankyou that is very helpful.
Hopefully Mani D is well aware. | | | |
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