| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient 12:00 - Feb 8 with 58073 views | DannyPaddox |
Up against Man City in the FFS that was offside FA Cup. I prepare to stand corrected but I think Charlie is still our player but as I take as much interest in modern football players contracts and transfers as I do in mobile phone contracts I could be wrong. Either way seems like a good lad and having a decent season with a club I like so up the O’s!
Up against a central defender today in Ruben Dias who’s worth approx £75 mil … would love to see Charlie meg him. [Post edited 8 Feb 12:07]
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| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 19:06 - Mar 28 with 3233 views | KensalT |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 18:59 - Mar 28 by kensalriser |
He might have progressed since, but the 'great finisher' myth all stems from a solitary off the cuff remark by Warburton that's somehow morphed into a universally accepted truth.
Except it's not. And clearly neither Warburton nor any of his successors have believed it for a moment. |
You might be right.
But when we signed him from Southend Les Ferdinand said:
“He is a goalscorer and, at just 18, has scored goals in league football already, which alerted us."
https://www.qpr.co.uk/news/club-news/charlie-kelman-completes-qpr-switch/
He certainly hasn't shown much of that until this season with Orient. |  | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 19:47 - Mar 28 with 3033 views | GaryHaddock |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 19:31 - Mar 28 by KensalT |
I'm not writing him off.
He has certainly done enough this season to deserve a chance in the first team next season.
But he isn't quick, he's not particularly tall, and his career strike rate is nothing special.
If he gets judged just on his data he might not be given a chance next season. Particularly not if we get any offers for him.
I hope I'm wrong and he gets the chance next season and takes it. But he still has a lot to prove at this level. |
Yeah that’s fair.
I think he get a place next season, purely on the basis he’s probably cheaper than what we have, which is basically just Frey. |  | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 20:23 - Mar 28 with 2935 views | Hoopsie |
League one current top scorers
Richard Kone, Wycombe 18
Jay Stansfield, Birmingham 16
Charlie Kelman, Orient 15
Louie Barry, Stockport 15
What valuation do you think Kelman is compared to them? |  |
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| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 21:32 - Mar 28 with 2834 views | Lblock |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 20:23 - Mar 28 by Hoopsie |
League one current top scorers
Richard Kone, Wycombe 18
Jay Stansfield, Birmingham 16
Charlie Kelman, Orient 15
Louie Barry, Stockport 15
What valuation do you think Kelman is compared to them? |
Thought provoking
I think someone bid £6mill for Kone in January didn’t they?
Stansfield was £8mill I think
To prise Barry away his parent club will want £5mill plus
Maybe we’ve got something - I did hear that Kelman could be the next Rooney when we signed him; maybe he’s shagging old hookers.
I say keep but do we play to his needs? |  |
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| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 22:45 - Mar 28 with 2725 views | Hunterhoop |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 21:32 - Mar 28 by Lblock |
Thought provoking
I think someone bid £6mill for Kone in January didn’t they?
Stansfield was £8mill I think
To prise Barry away his parent club will want £5mill plus
Maybe we’ve got something - I did hear that Kelman could be the next Rooney when we signed him; maybe he’s shagging old hookers.
I say keep but do we play to his needs? |
Stansfield is as £15m, wasn’t he? It’s mad.
But it puts into perspective Kelman’s potential value. |  | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 06:43 - Mar 29 with 2541 views | Gloucs_R |
I've heard people saying we should sell him.
Problem is, I don't trust the club to buy a striker who is better.
Looking at options next season...
Frey, works hard but limited
Celar, clearly can score goals but more is a box type player
Kolli, the most creative striker we have but needs time to develop
Kelman, coming in full of confidence. If he gets a few goals in preseason he'll be buzzing |  |
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| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 07:13 - Mar 29 with 2506 views | Gus_iom |
He looks sharp. Look forward to seeing him play for QPR next season. [Post edited 29 Mar 7:48]
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| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 07:20 - Mar 29 with 2498 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 06:43 - Mar 29 by Gloucs_R |
I've heard people saying we should sell him.
Problem is, I don't trust the club to buy a striker who is better.
Looking at options next season...
Frey, works hard but limited
Celar, clearly can score goals but more is a box type player
Kolli, the most creative striker we have but needs time to develop
Kelman, coming in full of confidence. If he gets a few goals in preseason he'll be buzzing |
A lot of sense in what you say.
However, the club needs to assess, decide, and act quickly on this. Either we're going to be Stoke cashing in on Mike Sheron or, we've got Les Ferdinand returning from a career-making loan spell.
But as someone pointed above, his actual minutes are more cameos and if we're going to stick with him, then he needs to know he's got a good run of games to build on this season, and not bench, starting the early league cup game, followed by bench. |  |
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| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 07:37 - Mar 29 with 2457 views | Gloucs_R |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 07:20 - Mar 29 by PlanetHonneywood |
A lot of sense in what you say.
However, the club needs to assess, decide, and act quickly on this. Either we're going to be Stoke cashing in on Mike Sheron or, we've got Les Ferdinand returning from a career-making loan spell.
But as someone pointed above, his actual minutes are more cameos and if we're going to stick with him, then he needs to know he's got a good run of games to build on this season, and not bench, starting the early league cup game, followed by bench. |
Agree.
If he were an Orient player, we'd be paying at least £2.5m for him I reckon.
Celar scored 21 in 23/24, he was the top scorer in the Swiss league.
Two strikers, both can score goals. Whether they can do it in the championship is another question
Preseason is going to be really really important to the strikers this season.
Plus a new defence 🙄 [Post edited 29 Mar 7:39]
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| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 08:37 - Mar 29 with 2372 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 07:37 - Mar 29 by Gloucs_R |
Agree.
If he were an Orient player, we'd be paying at least £2.5m for him I reckon.
Celar scored 21 in 23/24, he was the top scorer in the Swiss league.
Two strikers, both can score goals. Whether they can do it in the championship is another question
Preseason is going to be really really important to the strikers this season.
Plus a new defence 🙄 [Post edited 29 Mar 7:39]
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I'm not sure if it's been raised above, but with the 2026 WC just around the corner, you'd think Charlie would be very motivated to get into Poch's reckoning.
As for the defence, that's a separate 10-plus pager to come. | |
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| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 11:38 - Mar 29 with 2156 views | GaryBannister86 |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 06:43 - Mar 29 by Gloucs_R |
I've heard people saying we should sell him.
Problem is, I don't trust the club to buy a striker who is better.
Looking at options next season...
Frey, works hard but limited
Celar, clearly can score goals but more is a box type player
Kolli, the most creative striker we have but needs time to develop
Kelman, coming in full of confidence. If he gets a few goals in preseason he'll be buzzing |
Surely concluding that Celar "clearly can score goals" is a bit like deciding Karl Henry "can score 20 yarders" based on one result in a lot of games?
I hope you are right, but...one swallow does not make a summer. |  | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 15:40 - Mar 29 with 1920 views | Gloucs_R |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 11:38 - Mar 29 by GaryBannister86 |
Surely concluding that Celar "clearly can score goals" is a bit like deciding Karl Henry "can score 20 yarders" based on one result in a lot of games?
I hope you are right, but...one swallow does not make a summer. |
He scored 40 in 95 but if you watch the highlights, most are in all around the penalty spot / six yard box.
Jury's definitely out as to whether he can do it in this country. But my point still remains that he has scored goals previously. | |
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| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 17:06 - Mar 29 with 1841 views | SK_hoops |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 15:40 - Mar 29 by Gloucs_R |
He scored 40 in 95 but if you watch the highlights, most are in all around the penalty spot / six yard box.
Jury's definitely out as to whether he can do it in this country. But my point still remains that he has scored goals previously. |
Yeah, I was thinking that. We hardly ever score any goals like ones he does. | | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 08:53 - Mar 31 with 1500 views | TheChef |
Any chance we can recall him for his loan for our last few games??  |  |
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| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 11:59 - Mar 31 with 1324 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 08:53 - Mar 31 by TheChef |
Any chance we can recall him for his loan for our last few games?? |
No doubt, an hour into the long schlep on the central line train from Leytonstone, that cramp feeling he started to experience around Holborn would be a full-blown hamstring injury by White City, and see him out for three weeks! | |
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| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 12:20 - Mar 31 with 1255 views | daveB |
thing with Kelman is when he's only started 5 games for us and 3 of those starts were out wide so not sure how anyone can know if he's good enough or not.
Would certainly have him invovled next season so they can finally make a decsion on him |  | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 12:30 - Mar 31 with 1209 views | GaryHaddock |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 12:20 - Mar 31 by daveB |
thing with Kelman is when he's only started 5 games for us and 3 of those starts were out wide so not sure how anyone can know if he's good enough or not.
Would certainly have him invovled next season so they can finally make a decsion on him |
Also, we’re acting like we have a choice. | | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 12:36 - Mar 31 with 1185 views | SW_Ranger |
No doubt Kelman should be given an opportunity. Big issue for him could be will we/are we capable of getting any decent balls to him?
One other idea is to offer Madsen to Orient as a player swap (I know he’s on loan, I know, but maybe they’ll forget and just do the deal). | | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 14:16 - Mar 31 with 944 views | DavieQPR |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 12:36 - Mar 31 by SW_Ranger |
No doubt Kelman should be given an opportunity. Big issue for him could be will we/are we capable of getting any decent balls to him?
One other idea is to offer Madsen to Orient as a player swap (I know he’s on loan, I know, but maybe they’ll forget and just do the deal). |
Connor Washington scored goals in Div 1 and look how that turned out.. |  | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 14:26 - Mar 31 with 929 views | TheChef |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 14:16 - Mar 31 by DavieQPR |
Connor Washington scored goals in Div 1 and look how that turned out.. |
Ah the good old days of shouting "COME ON CONNOR" in a Norn Iron accent.
He never scored, bless him. | |
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| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 14:39 - Mar 31 with 867 views | Loyalitat |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 14:16 - Mar 31 by DavieQPR |
Connor Washington scored goals in Div 1 and look how that turned out.. |
Kelman's goals per game in the league this season (15 in 38), is better than Washington's (27 in 82), prior to our signing him from Peterborough.
Admittedly, a smaller sample size in terms of games. He may not be the answer/partial answer to our inadequacies in front of goal, but he's gone away and performed for an unfancied team, in the O's, who are three points off sixth spot due to his goals and deserves his chance next season.
If it's not with us, he will get his chance with another championship team or one that's promoted into it, Birmingham excepted. [Post edited 31 Mar 15:38]
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| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 15:34 - Mar 31 with 750 views | gazza1 |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 14:39 - Mar 31 by Loyalitat |
Kelman's goals per game in the league this season (15 in 38), is better than Washington's (27 in 82), prior to our signing him from Peterborough.
Admittedly, a smaller sample size in terms of games. He may not be the answer/partial answer to our inadequacies in front of goal, but he's gone away and performed for an unfancied team, in the O's, who are three points off sixth spot due to his goals and deserves his chance next season.
If it's not with us, he will get his chance with another championship team or one that's promoted into it, Birmingham excepted. [Post edited 31 Mar 15:38]
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Good, I hope he does get signed/transferred to another Championship Club, more money for QPR and one off the books who struggles in the Championship. | | | |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 17:46 - Mar 31 with 598 views | loftboy |
| Charlie Kelman’s Leyton Orient on 15:34 - Mar 31 by gazza1 |
Good, I hope he does get signed/transferred to another Championship Club, more money for QPR and one off the books who struggles in the Championship. |
Would like to see him here at least until Christmas Gaz just to see whether he’s good enough now he’s more experienced (and confident) |  |
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