| Julien speaks 18:53 - Jan 24 with 5549 views | stainrods_elbow |
https://www.qpr.co.uk/videos/0
I have hardly hid that I'm not convinced at all by this manager, but, surely, people will agree this interview is just so deflating. Just repeats his 'we have to learn' mantra, without giving any insight at all into WHAT we - and as importantly HE - is learning. His inability to even acknowledge the collapsed 2nd half and self-defeating backfootedness that in the end handed Wrexham the game is seriously worrying. He just looks in a comfort zone to me and speaks in the same cliches again and again.
We'll see what Coventry brings next time out, but 'I think it will be difficult for the players' is hardly fighting talk, is it? How does that rally anyone? I wouldn't back him to 'find a solution' right now if a memo reading 'this is the solution' were taped to his head!
Meanwhile, I've given up asking for standards because this coach, and this club, just don't show me any.
Hope everyone goes out tonight and does lots of enjoyable non-QPR things. [Post edited 24 Jan 18:56]
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| Julien speaks on 11:37 - Jan 26 with 772 views | CroydonCaptJack |
| Julien speaks on 11:20 - Jan 26 by NorrisGreen |
What is this nonsense about "only one bad result" ot "just a mad four mins"????
We've been rotten and stinking up the league for weeks, a dozen games or more.
I saw our last away win at Ewood - a giant turd of a game that we scraped a 1-0 from. But, y'kow, that's okay a win on the road and 3pts is all that matters so job's a good 'un.
But since then we've been a dreary stodgy shot-shy shambles on the road - absolutely shocking.
Barely much better at home, We went in 1-0 up on Saturday but atmosphere was like a morgue at HT. That 45 mins was plain dull to watch plus the foreboding sense Wrexham has settled and looked far neater and crisper than us and were bound to equalise at some point.
But given how we huffed and puffed for nigh on 70mins achieving sod all meaningful goal attempts in our last home game against the hapless Owls it shouldn't be much surprise that we unravelled against more dynamic opponents.
I don't know how many dull toothless showings it needs for people to wake up but I suppose I've seen it before with Warbs and Marti.... a weird belief that it will all come good if we just give them time. Trouble is, I can see this latest fraud taking us into L1 if we don't wise up. |
The feeling around me at HT was very positive. We felt we should be further ahead as we had had good chances but were all a bit shocked about how poor Wrexham had been. I am not sure what your sense of foreboding was based on - maybe their zero attempts on goal?
We should have been at least two up at HT in my opinion. Second half Wrexham were much better and I was surprised when we got ourselves ahead. The loss was purely down to that brainless sending off for me. A draw would have been a fair result. |  |
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| Julien speaks on 12:05 - Jan 26 with 714 views | TheChef |
| Julien speaks on 11:20 - Jan 26 by NorrisGreen |
What is this nonsense about "only one bad result" ot "just a mad four mins"????
We've been rotten and stinking up the league for weeks, a dozen games or more.
I saw our last away win at Ewood - a giant turd of a game that we scraped a 1-0 from. But, y'kow, that's okay a win on the road and 3pts is all that matters so job's a good 'un.
But since then we've been a dreary stodgy shot-shy shambles on the road - absolutely shocking.
Barely much better at home, We went in 1-0 up on Saturday but atmosphere was like a morgue at HT. That 45 mins was plain dull to watch plus the foreboding sense Wrexham has settled and looked far neater and crisper than us and were bound to equalise at some point.
But given how we huffed and puffed for nigh on 70mins achieving sod all meaningful goal attempts in our last home game against the hapless Owls it shouldn't be much surprise that we unravelled against more dynamic opponents.
I don't know how many dull toothless showings it needs for people to wake up but I suppose I've seen it before with Warbs and Marti.... a weird belief that it will all come good if we just give them time. Trouble is, I can see this latest fraud taking us into L1 if we don't wise up. |
Not really sure what you expect but we've basically been the same for the last ten years in this division. Of course we'd all like that to improve, but if you keep swapping managers every 18-24 months or less, nothing is going to change. |  |
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| Julien speaks on 12:29 - Jan 26 with 653 views | Northernr |
| Julien speaks on 12:05 - Jan 26 by TheChef |
Not really sure what you expect but we've basically been the same for the last ten years in this division. Of course we'd all like that to improve, but if you keep swapping managers every 18-24 months or less, nothing is going to change. |
Also, if you go massively out of your way to stress that he's not the manager he's the head coach, and it's a collective effort, then that makes just sacking him when results go wrong rather problematic. Or, at least, it should. |  | | |
| Julien speaks on 13:00 - Jan 26 with 573 views | wombat |
| Julien speaks on 12:29 - Jan 26 by Northernr |
Also, if you go massively out of your way to stress that he's not the manager he's the head coach, and it's a collective effort, then that makes just sacking him when results go wrong rather problematic. Or, at least, it should. |
which member of the methodology dept is to blame ? we seem to have a fair few these days , special sessions for players , one to one stuff , anyone actually there to take the blame ? steve boulds out shopping on match days! Ben williams no idea what he actually does now. and its nearly feb and we are still knackered after 60 mins. loose on sat and then stiuck in a poor perfroamcne at chalrton and maybe some fans will start to see the problems |  |
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| Julien speaks on 13:16 - Jan 26 with 545 views | nick_hammersmith |
| Julien speaks on 12:05 - Jan 26 by TheChef |
Not really sure what you expect but we've basically been the same for the last ten years in this division. Of course we'd all like that to improve, but if you keep swapping managers every 18-24 months or less, nothing is going to change. |
18-24 months is longer than average isn't it for Championship managers/coaches?
Not trying to be awkward, but I think this issue is more than just the manager.
Personally, I think these players look unfit.
I'm not sure that the squad is that thin that we couldn't have used our subs in a better way to manage fitness.
Don't put players on the bench if you have no interest in playing them, if the coach is trying to make a statement put more than one GK on there, or name less...
I'd like to see the club stick Mr Jolly out in front of the camera again and explain why I can't see my favourite players every week, and how someone holding an exploded hamstring is a "contact" injury, but its OK because the U8's and ladies team all have 100% availability, so really when you look at QPR are doing really well, and if you disagree with me you can see me in the canteen.
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| Julien speaks on 13:17 - Jan 26 with 541 views | BklynRanger |
| Julien speaks on 13:00 - Jan 26 by wombat |
which member of the methodology dept is to blame ? we seem to have a fair few these days , special sessions for players , one to one stuff , anyone actually there to take the blame ? steve boulds out shopping on match days! Ben williams no idea what he actually does now. and its nearly feb and we are still knackered after 60 mins. loose on sat and then stiuck in a poor perfroamcne at chalrton and maybe some fans will start to see the problems |
The players not being fit enough seems to be one of the few opinions that the vast majority are agreed on. Kone was out on his feet by the time Rathbone hit that winner and couldn't find it in himself to move 2 feet to block the shot. That's not singling him out but it would have been a frustrating point at least at the end, rather then what it was.
But isn't Williams Nourry's friend as well as whatever his job title is? With all the various layers and roles I find it hard to imagine he'd walk or get pushed, so it's difficult to see something meaningful happening as far as lack of fitness.
But if our 'secret weapon', in Nourry speak, is to do things consistently part of that should be getting and staying fit, unless that's just too basic. |  | | |
| Julien speaks on 13:27 - Jan 26 with 526 views | sdm1508 |
| Julien speaks on 21:47 - Jan 25 by mart_Goblin |
The Edwards thing is starting to be a bit of a worry .
Spoke to a mate yesterday who said “well, he just can’t be ready”
I just don’t buy that . You can’t be on the bench for 3 matches and not be ready to play .
If we don't see any sign of him on Saturday with Mbengue missing , it will become a real possibility that he wasn’t wanted by JS and he is leaving him out in some sort of of deliberate stubbornness.
For the record I think he will play Saturday . He has to, surely ? |
I think there are a number of reasons he isn't playing. Firstly fitness. He won't be match fit so ease him in. Also the manager will want to have a look at him in training. Understand what he is good at. How he can utilise him and patterns of play based on that.
Most importantly, until Saturday. The defence looked solid. You don't change it for the sake of it. That's doesn't send a good message to a player, if they have been doing well and someone new comes in and goes straight into the team. Now obviously, if he is the Ronnie Edwards we have previously, it's a no brainer that he gets in the team, but you just have to play the waiting game for the right moment. That might be injury, suspension (likely with Mbengue) or drop in form.
I think he will play this week now and Dunne might go to right back. When Mbengue comes back, if Edwards plays well, you then have a reason to maybe drop Cook. Dunne is better at CB now so Mbengue comes in and Edwards will hopefully show that is better on the ball than Cook. Cook has been great recently, but I also thought it was quite noticeable the number of times on Saturday and the previous game how he just hacked the ball clear, when he had a bit of time and that meant we were just defending another attack. Edwards might actually be able to move forward into midfield, draw players in and create space for others |  | | |
| Julien speaks on 13:33 - Jan 26 with 512 views | wombat |
| Julien speaks on 13:17 - Jan 26 by BklynRanger |
The players not being fit enough seems to be one of the few opinions that the vast majority are agreed on. Kone was out on his feet by the time Rathbone hit that winner and couldn't find it in himself to move 2 feet to block the shot. That's not singling him out but it would have been a frustrating point at least at the end, rather then what it was.
But isn't Williams Nourry's friend as well as whatever his job title is? With all the various layers and roles I find it hard to imagine he'd walk or get pushed, so it's difficult to see something meaningful happening as far as lack of fitness.
But if our 'secret weapon', in Nourry speak, is to do things consistently part of that should be getting and staying fit, unless that's just too basic. |
cant somment on the best friend bit , but others have mentioned it before so probably, its nearly feb so id say its about time the club annnounced another fans forum as per league rules to do two a season , last season we did one by the way .
its will likley be held the same day as some away game to stop as many fans going as possible. but as u say maybe a deep hitting interview with cycling Ben in the meantime to explain to us mere mortals why the players are fecked so early into a game , why we cant see out fav players due to impact injuires and that the under 9s team has been injury free since he arrived.
i wonder if its actually methodolgy we are doing or scientology , is tom cruise hiding in the back ground maybe ? | |
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| Julien speaks on 13:57 - Jan 26 with 463 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| Julien speaks on 13:33 - Jan 26 by wombat |
cant somment on the best friend bit , but others have mentioned it before so probably, its nearly feb so id say its about time the club annnounced another fans forum as per league rules to do two a season , last season we did one by the way .
its will likley be held the same day as some away game to stop as many fans going as possible. but as u say maybe a deep hitting interview with cycling Ben in the meantime to explain to us mere mortals why the players are fecked so early into a game , why we cant see out fav players due to impact injuires and that the under 9s team has been injury free since he arrived.
i wonder if its actually methodolgy we are doing or scientology , is tom cruise hiding in the back ground maybe ? |
The Ben Williams issue is a big test for Nourry. He is clearly failing quite spectactularly in his role (and making Nourry's regime fail too), so you'd expect him to be dismissed. If he isn't, that sends out quite the message.
Maybe they spin it and Williams departs at the end of the season for another role, invented or otherwise. | | | |
| Julien speaks on 14:14 - Jan 26 with 386 views | TheChef |
| Julien speaks on 13:27 - Jan 26 by sdm1508 |
I think there are a number of reasons he isn't playing. Firstly fitness. He won't be match fit so ease him in. Also the manager will want to have a look at him in training. Understand what he is good at. How he can utilise him and patterns of play based on that.
Most importantly, until Saturday. The defence looked solid. You don't change it for the sake of it. That's doesn't send a good message to a player, if they have been doing well and someone new comes in and goes straight into the team. Now obviously, if he is the Ronnie Edwards we have previously, it's a no brainer that he gets in the team, but you just have to play the waiting game for the right moment. That might be injury, suspension (likely with Mbengue) or drop in form.
I think he will play this week now and Dunne might go to right back. When Mbengue comes back, if Edwards plays well, you then have a reason to maybe drop Cook. Dunne is better at CB now so Mbengue comes in and Edwards will hopefully show that is better on the ball than Cook. Cook has been great recently, but I also thought it was quite noticeable the number of times on Saturday and the previous game how he just hacked the ball clear, when he had a bit of time and that meant we were just defending another attack. Edwards might actually be able to move forward into midfield, draw players in and create space for others |
Thank you. Well put.
Everyone screaming for Edwards to be playing when no one knows exactly his fitness levels. As you say better he is gradually eased in rather than rushed into the team and then he does get properly injured...
For all that I do hope he is fit to start on Saturday! Although if we have to go with Field and Cook at CB that would not be too terrible. | |
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| Julien speaks on 14:31 - Jan 26 with 343 views | Juzzie |
| Julien speaks on 12:29 - Jan 26 by Northernr |
Also, if you go massively out of your way to stress that he's not the manager he's the head coach, and it's a collective effort, then that makes just sacking him when results go wrong rather problematic. Or, at least, it should. |
I always wondered this too.
When you the archetypal old school Manager, you effectively live by the sword and die by the sword. Fair enough.
However, if you're being employed as a coach and there's a whole team of people with tablets, spreadsheets, etc etc and they are providing you with the players (players you may not want) then seems a bit odd that you solely get the chop when it all goes south. All these background people seem to still be employed and repeat the same with the next Coach.
I can only think of the lucrative pay-off makes up for this otherwise who'd accept it? |  | | |
| Julien speaks on 14:37 - Jan 26 with 327 views | Padulas_Shampoo |
| Julien speaks on 11:20 - Jan 26 by NorrisGreen |
What is this nonsense about "only one bad result" ot "just a mad four mins"????
We've been rotten and stinking up the league for weeks, a dozen games or more.
I saw our last away win at Ewood - a giant turd of a game that we scraped a 1-0 from. But, y'kow, that's okay a win on the road and 3pts is all that matters so job's a good 'un.
But since then we've been a dreary stodgy shot-shy shambles on the road - absolutely shocking.
Barely much better at home, We went in 1-0 up on Saturday but atmosphere was like a morgue at HT. That 45 mins was plain dull to watch plus the foreboding sense Wrexham has settled and looked far neater and crisper than us and were bound to equalise at some point.
But given how we huffed and puffed for nigh on 70mins achieving sod all meaningful goal attempts in our last home game against the hapless Owls it shouldn't be much surprise that we unravelled against more dynamic opponents.
I don't know how many dull toothless showings it needs for people to wake up but I suppose I've seen it before with Warbs and Marti.... a weird belief that it will all come good if we just give them time. Trouble is, I can see this latest fraud taking us into L1 if we don't wise up. |
Blimey we must be playing badly. Norris has logged in. |  | | |
| Julien speaks on 14:54 - Jan 26 with 295 views | sdm1508 |
| Julien speaks on 20:00 - Jan 25 by NorrisGreen |
He's another phoney. Blow me, we've been suckered by another smooth handsome charming dark haired bloke who talks a good fight but ultimately does not understand what it takes to successfully negotiate a Championship season.
He's never going to succeed in the EFL, sooner he's gone the better. I guess that'll be summer but maybe sooner if the current form goes deep into February.
It's bloody galling cos this is the weakest Championship we've seen in years and a massive opportunity to finish in the playoffs has been missed.
Yesterday was an absolute masterclass in how to lose a game of football, ticked every box needed. BUT, that was just the cherry on the cake in terms of a dire 10-game period that contains several right stinkers of games. |
Sooo, if he isn't the right man for the job, in your opinion who do you think is based on the way the club wants to operate, as in having a head coach and not a manager? | | | |
| Julien speaks on 15:21 - Jan 26 with 255 views | kensalriser |
We're 12th, let's sack the manager. That should fix it. |  |
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| Julien speaks on 16:07 - Jan 26 with 188 views | wombat |
| Julien speaks on 14:54 - Jan 26 by sdm1508 |
Sooo, if he isn't the right man for the job, in your opinion who do you think is based on the way the club wants to operate, as in having a head coach and not a manager? |
prob the same as the present one , anyone who wont say No boss , im sure he wasnt the only person we spoke to but he was the only one whon said yes boss enough times to get the job, remmebr the press release , hes got a fantastic track record for bringing kids through and dont forget he wont the cup in 2019 5 years before he took our role and had done the square root of naff all since .
in all our history hes prob has less to do with day to day team affairs then any coach/ manager in our history , i can aimagine he nmeas the team weds then sends ot to who is head otf methodology to check he then says let cycling ben have a look then prob somebody else , lots of red and green highlighter markers used as well | |
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| Julien speaks on 16:28 - Jan 26 with 159 views | 7374Ranger |
| Julien speaks on 14:31 - Jan 26 by Juzzie |
I always wondered this too.
When you the archetypal old school Manager, you effectively live by the sword and die by the sword. Fair enough.
However, if you're being employed as a coach and there's a whole team of people with tablets, spreadsheets, etc etc and they are providing you with the players (players you may not want) then seems a bit odd that you solely get the chop when it all goes south. All these background people seem to still be employed and repeat the same with the next Coach.
I can only think of the lucrative pay-off makes up for this otherwise who'd accept it? |
True, but a lot of clubs have similar models with a head coach and it is usually him that gets sacked for not motivating the players, selecting the right team or tactics etc to get winning results. The Sporting Director, Performance Director, Methodology Director etc usually get to keep their jobs for a few more seasons as Ferdinand did. | | | |
| Julien speaks on 16:44 - Jan 26 with 137 views | Juzzie |
| Julien speaks on 16:28 - Jan 26 by 7374Ranger |
True, but a lot of clubs have similar models with a head coach and it is usually him that gets sacked for not motivating the players, selecting the right team or tactics etc to get winning results. The Sporting Director, Performance Director, Methodology Director etc usually get to keep their jobs for a few more seasons as Ferdinand did. |
Not sure I'd be happy getting the tin-tack for not being able to motive players provided to me who clearly have no interest in being motivated, and we've had a few.
But I guess that's just how it is and is excepted 9again, nice pay-off cushions the blow). | | | |
| Julien speaks on 16:56 - Jan 26 with 109 views | AshteadR |
| Julien speaks on 14:14 - Jan 26 by TheChef |
Thank you. Well put.
Everyone screaming for Edwards to be playing when no one knows exactly his fitness levels. As you say better he is gradually eased in rather than rushed into the team and then he does get properly injured...
For all that I do hope he is fit to start on Saturday! Although if we have to go with Field and Cook at CB that would not be too terrible. |
If he follows the trend of other players that have joined us, he’ll probably be a lot fitter than his team mates | | | |
| Julien speaks on 17:06 - Jan 26 with 69 views | Damo1962 |
| Julien speaks on 20:00 - Jan 25 by NorrisGreen |
He's another phoney. Blow me, we've been suckered by another smooth handsome charming dark haired bloke who talks a good fight but ultimately does not understand what it takes to successfully negotiate a Championship season.
He's never going to succeed in the EFL, sooner he's gone the better. I guess that'll be summer but maybe sooner if the current form goes deep into February.
It's bloody galling cos this is the weakest Championship we've seen in years and a massive opportunity to finish in the playoffs has been missed.
Yesterday was an absolute masterclass in how to lose a game of football, ticked every box needed. BUT, that was just the cherry on the cake in terms of a dire 10-game period that contains several right stinkers of games. |
No coincidence that all the best teams in my time following this pantomime club...have all been English. I don't think we are suited to this foreign coach trend nowadays personally. We are unique...and not in the right way 😉 | | | |
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