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Well we got beat today , but I can see improvement in the team this season. Its a slow process but I think we are heading in the right direction. I'm pretty pleased with this squad of players , I think it definitely has potential.
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I'm a wee bit concerned that we don't go on a player trolley dash In January, we've got good players on board, just need to keep working on them on the training pitch and hopefully keep Improving them.
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Slowly improving. on 21:49 - Dec 13 with 1776 views
I think that we have a group of players that will keep fighting even if they are sometimes outclassed, or often outclassed. But, we are improving and what annoys me is that although we are pretty obviously much better than we were, if we dare to lose a game then some fans seem to completely over react. Last season we didn't hit 31 points until late in 2037!
I'm notoriously cautious when things are going well, and notoriously optimistic when they aren't. I think it's important to look for balance.
I see potential and talent in many players, but that has to translate into performances for many of those players to be considered good players ("If he's a good hitter, why doesn't he hit good?").
Stéphan seems to me to be a good leader (I'm obviously guessing on that) and I really like him but he has good days and bad days like all managers.
It's been very interesting, but it's so, so early.
We've spent a lot of money, and the contracts may be loaded, but we don't know the details on that yet either.
In short, it's only December.
"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
24 clubs In this league and we're currently Ninth In the table In the middle of December.
Now If I'm not mistaken or reading the room wrong that ain't half bad.
I'm certainly not leaping up and down with joy but for my part I am quite pleased with the way things are going.
You can find fault with almost anything If you want but losing at a strong side like Middlesbrough on their own patch Isn't the be all and end all of It, TBH when we scored the pen I thought fluke one more and we'll pull It off.
I'm a bit concerned about next Saturday's fixture though.
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Slowly improving. on 22:27 - Dec 13 with 1639 views
Slowly improving. on 22:23 - Dec 13 by ted_hendrix
24 clubs In this league and we're currently Ninth In the table In the middle of December.
Now If I'm not mistaken or reading the room wrong that ain't half bad.
I'm certainly not leaping up and down with joy but for my part I am quite pleased with the way things are going.
You can find fault with almost anything If you want but losing at a strong side like Middlesbrough on their own patch Isn't the be all and end all of It, TBH when we scored the pen I thought fluke one more and we'll pull It off.
I'm a bit concerned about next Saturday's fixture though.
Fixture in the park ?
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Slowly improving. on 22:42 - Dec 13 with 1597 views
Keeper situation is a bit of a joke. We’ve destroyed Nardi and he looks terrible this season (quite good today though); Walsh won’t make it IMHO and Hamer is the stiffest of stiffs.
Full backs have been an issue for years.
Centre back looks sort of well covered but JGS cannot be relied on and Cookie will be gone end of season but I’d hope he’d continue to give 100%
I’m a big supporter of Varanne but I can’t deny he’s not stamping any authority on games this season. Madsen much improved from a very low base but he’s the pick of the bunch. God knows what’s happened to Field. Poku is a physios wet dream and the Anthill Mob will always get overrun away from home against accomplished squads like Boro. Saito is looking more and more like a poor signing and money that could’ve been invested in a younger and better Colback type.
Up top Burrell is a revelation but I see little else. Kone will be added to the QPR Hall of Fame for Non-Scoring Goal Scorers and Frey looks like his race is run with Kolli seeming to just be a load of off pitch noise.
The Manager and most of his staff are new to all this and it shows some weeks, great others. I would say I think they are doing well with all the above considered; as are the players with a better than expected points tally so far. I just hope Nourry and the club can keep on learning and learning fast. Gotta stop the cycle and actually build rather than continually having new dawns.
I’d agree “slowly improving” but an awful lot to do and I remain concerned that a death spiral may come around sooner than the marked improvement.
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Slowly improving. on 23:09 - Dec 13 with 1493 views
There've been encouraging and discouraging signs, coupled with a tendency to go overboard, e.g. the win v Brum (though I feel not 'underboard' - Coventry, Norwich etc.) at both extremes. Hull has probably been the only throughly satisfying performance, though we've had good periods in a handful of games, and the spirit (mostly) seems there. Basically, we're consistently inconsistent and blow hot and cold, both individually and collectively. Right now, though I think we'll swerve relegation, I have us anywhere between 9th (optimistic) and 19th (pessimistic). We're, I guess, a classic Champ squad.
Though I think there are some positive signs with Julie and his stewardship, what worries me is his apparent lack of detail/tactical attunement re the opposition, and, connectedly, his apparent lack of proactivity in games. I don't think he's referenced a single opposition player or said one thing about an opponent that's taught me anything since he started. It's invariably some iteration of 'they have very good players with strong collective performance', wherever they are in the table . . . Every. Single. Time. I mean - are people just depressingly satisfied with this, or do they think it is worth listening to? Aginst Boro, today, good as they were, we seemed set up to make them look good, and it's happened a few times this season. If he's watching the opposition as often as he claims to be, I'd expect better.
Basically, there's stuff to work with, plus some evident deficits and concerns, but they should introduce me as Club Interviewer. ;-)
In absolute terms, we are not good enough, but in relative terms we are better than we have been for a while and better than others in the league which is how the table measure 'good'.
Keeper situation is a bit of a joke. We’ve destroyed Nardi and he looks terrible this season (quite good today though); Walsh won’t make it IMHO and Hamer is the stiffest of stiffs.
Full backs have been an issue for years.
Centre back looks sort of well covered but JGS cannot be relied on and Cookie will be gone end of season but I’d hope he’d continue to give 100%
I’m a big supporter of Varanne but I can’t deny he’s not stamping any authority on games this season. Madsen much improved from a very low base but he’s the pick of the bunch. God knows what’s happened to Field. Poku is a physios wet dream and the Anthill Mob will always get overrun away from home against accomplished squads like Boro. Saito is looking more and more like a poor signing and money that could’ve been invested in a younger and better Colback type.
Up top Burrell is a revelation but I see little else. Kone will be added to the QPR Hall of Fame for Non-Scoring Goal Scorers and Frey looks like his race is run with Kolli seeming to just be a load of off pitch noise.
The Manager and most of his staff are new to all this and it shows some weeks, great others. I would say I think they are doing well with all the above considered; as are the players with a better than expected points tally so far. I just hope Nourry and the club can keep on learning and learning fast. Gotta stop the cycle and actually build rather than continually having new dawns.
I’d agree “slowly improving” but an awful lot to do and I remain concerned that a death spiral may come around sooner than the marked improvement.
Wow ....
I normally agree with your take but I think that is quite an unrealistic outlook
Perhaps you'd like to look at your assessment again ...
Nardi - great shot stopper - yes, can be uncertain when coming out of his goal but his reflex shot stopping is something else. Yet to see better in the League for point blank saving
Full backs - RND is a regular 8 out of 10. A little tired today but otherwise 8 out of 10. Mbengue is a dark horse/rough diamond. He will come good.
CB's - Yes, I will grant you, JCS should not be starting. He's not 'die in the ditch' material. Jimmy Dunne is fine but we need a talented ball playing CB alongside him. Ronnie Edwards ?
CM's - Varane and Madsen are a work in progress. They are developing a partnership. With the right players alongside, behind and in front of them they will be effective
The 'Anthill Mob', It's OK. They all contribute and have strings to their bows. They can all create bits and pieces, And they work hard.
Up front - I'd challenge anyone to diss Burrell for his work rate and ingenuity and I think you are being too hard on Richard give that he was playing at about Level 11 only 3 years ago and to date has a season and a half of League One under his belt. The there is Kolli, who is undoubtedly a great talent but there have been some expectational issues to be dealt with
Plus there are more - Morgan etc.
So while I was concerned 4 /5 weeks ago I would say we are doing OK and if we get behind the lads and support what we have got we might be pleasantly surprised to find out that the sum turns out to be greater than the value of the individual parts
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Slowly improving. on 01:17 - Dec 14 with 1323 views
What I found fascinating today was not just Boro had really good players / strong squad. But there tactics and formation was something I'd never seen before. Fluid 4-2-2-2 with the wingers starting as 10's The fullbacks pushed really high to become wing backs and the centre mid dropped into defence to make a back 3. The winger 10s would push wide if they attacked down the wing out numbering us, or stay central if they attacked down the middle out numbering us. We would get narrow to combat it and they would then do these diags to other full back to open us up. We just did not have a clue how to play against it along with there fast transition.
Will be interesting in the next 6-10 games to see which teams work out how to combat it and how they do it
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Slowly improving. on 06:45 - Dec 14 with 1216 views
What I found fascinating today was not just Boro had really good players / strong squad. But there tactics and formation was something I'd never seen before. Fluid 4-2-2-2 with the wingers starting as 10's The fullbacks pushed really high to become wing backs and the centre mid dropped into defence to make a back 3. The winger 10s would push wide if they attacked down the wing out numbering us, or stay central if they attacked down the middle out numbering us. We would get narrow to combat it and they would then do these diags to other full back to open us up. We just did not have a clue how to play against it along with there fast transition.
Will be interesting in the next 6-10 games to see which teams work out how to combat it and how they do it
Top post. I was watching a stream and saw that 4-2-2-2 line up and thought they had that wrong
It's the managers 4th game and he as won them all... so I think it as taken the league by surprise.
Are we improving.. well yes the league position proves we are...
Though I'm kinda in Lblock camp. The club seems to be on the right track with certain things... but then handling people it is way down on that
Paal last year, Nardi this year... Furlong .... they seem to go out of their way to alienate personal and then ask them to "perform"
The FB situation is bad though. RND is a decent championship player but he isn't ours... and at RB a CB like last year.... and we haven't addressed that
I still think we are lightweight for this division. Nearly every team we play are bigger, stronger than us, and we do seem to get bullied a lot.
Birmingham was perhaps the 1st game where we possibly matched physically a team.
I think we are a 6/10 at the moment... stretching to a 7/10 on occasions, and a following wind
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Slowly improving. on 07:04 - Dec 14 with 1176 views
Overall yes we have improved, but it is all immaterial if the teams CM isn't good enough. The club must address this in the summer if they are to take the next step.
Boro are the perfect example of where QPR can be in a years time if they get the recruitment right.
It’s nice to be looking up rather than down..I am not checking bottom 3 results yet..considering the squad we have I think we are doing ok. Xmas period will see if improvement is sustained or flash in the pan. Fingers x no more 6 game losing runs but can’t rule it out..on the other hand put a run together we could challenge top 6…all to play for. As others have said next Saturday will be a good test of where we are.
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Slowly improving. on 07:43 - Dec 14 with 1118 views
Top post. I was watching a stream and saw that 4-2-2-2 line up and thought they had that wrong
It's the managers 4th game and he as won them all... so I think it as taken the league by surprise.
Are we improving.. well yes the league position proves we are...
Though I'm kinda in Lblock camp. The club seems to be on the right track with certain things... but then handling people it is way down on that
Paal last year, Nardi this year... Furlong .... they seem to go out of their way to alienate personal and then ask them to "perform"
The FB situation is bad though. RND is a decent championship player but he isn't ours... and at RB a CB like last year.... and we haven't addressed that
I still think we are lightweight for this division. Nearly every team we play are bigger, stronger than us, and we do seem to get bullied a lot.
Birmingham was perhaps the 1st game where we possibly matched physically a team.
I think we are a 6/10 at the moment... stretching to a 7/10 on occasions, and a following wind
Maybe they can just listen to Sints on Comms and adjust the plan from what he is seeing - failing that, at least talk to him at half time.
Betsy is listening to something on his ear pods most games and laptop man is getting video and/or data feeds but it rarely seems to change what we are doing in game.
Given that the comms position usually has a very different view to the bench perhaps that and decades of experience could be beneficial as the coaching team learn the teams and league.
Those possessed by devils, try and keep them under control a bit, can't you ?
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Slowly improving. on 07:59 - Dec 14 with 1086 views
I would say we have a better squad this season overall but that does not mean we have a better team some games.
Occasionally, a team appears and the team performs quite well. Then it disappears and we focus on individuals - good and bad. One or two play well, others bad and that often varies - with the exception of Madsen and Burrell who are the most consistent performers this season.
Fix the team issue and I think the consistency will follow. Meantime, feels likeit’s going to lurch from the good to the bad - week to week, game to game.
Compare with the Boro team yesterday - they were well drilled, knew their jobs, did their jobs and played as a collective. Probably do that most week, hence their league position. Bit of money helps matters, sure but look at how they used Whittaker compared to what he was doing previously.
QPR don’t do team consistency for more than 30-45 mins most games - yet. I hope that changes because it will make a big difference in my uneducated opinion.
Those possessed by devils, try and keep them under control a bit, can't you ?
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Slowly improving. on 08:40 - Dec 14 with 1021 views
31 points and if we could get to 35 points half way, after 23 games, we’re very nicely positioned to have a go at top 6, if we really fancy it. Lose the next two and we’re set up for 12th to 16th as per. As you say, slowly improving.
JS is doing better than I expected after the first three games, these players do try to buy in to a manager in the last few years.
Now hes seen the first round of games in England for the first time, I’m hoping he’ll start managing the line up for the second round of games with a view to nullifying some of the better teams we’ve played, particularly those sides that have brushed aside the ‘anthill mob’ ( I do like that) with relative ease.
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Slowly improving. on 09:14 - Dec 14 with 923 views
Thought Boro looked very good and thoroughly deserved their three points; no shame in that.
We made a few errors that were costly, but could have brought it back to 3-2 if we had a bit more composure. However, our performance was streets ahead of the Coventry debacle, in a week we hit 6th!
We were right to blow a gasket after the way we started, especially as we looked way off it. Accordingly, it's only right to acknowledge how well things have improved in the interim, aware that we've still got room to improve on those things under our control.
We are way off competing with half the teams in this league on an equal footing, so if anyone is getting narked about losing yesterday given all the variables in play, then give your head a wobble.
We're doing ok!
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Maybe they can just listen to Sints on Comms and adjust the plan from what he is seeing - failing that, at least talk to him at half time.
Betsy is listening to something on his ear pods most games and laptop man is getting video and/or data feeds but it rarely seems to change what we are doing in game.
Given that the comms position usually has a very different view to the bench perhaps that and decades of experience could be beneficial as the coaching team learn the teams and league.
Sinton would be an excellent QPR manager, or at least assistant manager, I'm sure - he knows the club/division inside out, can read a game, and communicates clearly and effectively - and I'm often a bit surprised he hasn't had more of a career in that direction. I guess he just wouldn't want the aggro (and possibly shredded reputation) that goes with it in the end.
Maybe they can just listen to Sints on Comms and adjust the plan from what he is seeing - failing that, at least talk to him at half time.
Betsy is listening to something on his ear pods most games and laptop man is getting video and/or data feeds but it rarely seems to change what we are doing in game.
Given that the comms position usually has a very different view to the bench perhaps that and decades of experience could be beneficial as the coaching team learn the teams and league.
" listen to Sints on Comms and adjust the plan from what he is seeing" Maybe. It's a very old suggestion of mine, but, I do not think that the manager gets a very good view of the game from the dugout and the technical area. Great for passing messages and giving instructions during breaks in play, but not much good for anything else. Someone needs to be sitting somewhere higher up, where there is a better view of the entire pitch and he/she can provide some input on the pattern of play.
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Slowly improving. on 09:46 - Dec 14 with 842 views
Sinton would be an excellent QPR manager, or at least assistant manager, I'm sure - he knows the club/division inside out, can read a game, and communicates clearly and effectively - and I'm often a bit surprised he hasn't had more of a career in that direction. I guess he just wouldn't want the aggro (and possibly shredded reputation) that goes with it in the end.
Not sure we will ever see him as a manager but I’m pretty sure we could harness his knowledge, insight and experience much more than we do.
Just need to keep that workload sensible and manageable. Maybe a more hands off DoF/advisory role perhaps - with an overview of coaching/selection/training/tactics etc.
Might make the whole set up more cohesive, smarter and focused. Basic common sense would be applied a lot more and we’d probably get a lot more updates on our faves.
BUT
As he said the other night when he celebrated on Comms as Morgan scored and we won - ‘I hope my doctor isn’t listening !’
He’s just such a great guy for the club, hate to lose him.
Those possessed by devils, try and keep them under control a bit, can't you ?
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Slowly improving. on 10:03 - Dec 14 with 802 views
Keeper situation is a bit of a joke. We’ve destroyed Nardi and he looks terrible this season (quite good today though); Walsh won’t make it IMHO and Hamer is the stiffest of stiffs.
Full backs have been an issue for years.
Centre back looks sort of well covered but JGS cannot be relied on and Cookie will be gone end of season but I’d hope he’d continue to give 100%
I’m a big supporter of Varanne but I can’t deny he’s not stamping any authority on games this season. Madsen much improved from a very low base but he’s the pick of the bunch. God knows what’s happened to Field. Poku is a physios wet dream and the Anthill Mob will always get overrun away from home against accomplished squads like Boro. Saito is looking more and more like a poor signing and money that could’ve been invested in a younger and better Colback type.
Up top Burrell is a revelation but I see little else. Kone will be added to the QPR Hall of Fame for Non-Scoring Goal Scorers and Frey looks like his race is run with Kolli seeming to just be a load of off pitch noise.
The Manager and most of his staff are new to all this and it shows some weeks, great others. I would say I think they are doing well with all the above considered; as are the players with a better than expected points tally so far. I just hope Nourry and the club can keep on learning and learning fast. Gotta stop the cycle and actually build rather than continually having new dawns.
I’d agree “slowly improving” but an awful lot to do and I remain concerned that a death spiral may come around sooner than the marked improvement.
I think we do have issues at CB, JCS is not his old self Cook is slowing and we are not playing Morrison who is a prospect.
Big if but IF we could get Edwards in Jan plus maybe a versitile Full back that can switch sides and an actually fit striker then I think we can stay in touch with the Play offs.
Need to rehabilitate Field and use Hayden more, he's over using Madsen and Verane. Dembele is boiling my p1ss he seems difficult to me. Smyth, Burrell, Madsen are all having a good season and from what I'm seeing the Manager can see that as well.
GK is weird position, All 3 keepers have done their best and had the crap kicked out them for the cause so kind of hard on them to bring in another victim/player, I'd rather see us leave that alone unless things change over the Christmas new year.
There is a spine forming.
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