| Cargiant site on 17:48 - Apr 17 with 2726 views | BristolR |
| Cargiant site on 16:31 - Apr 17 by LongsufferingR |
Would it be cheaper if Reuben pretended to be a car dealer and bought CarGiant? |
Swiss Reuben, got a certain ring to it
“Building a new football stadium is a bit like making love to a beautiful woman…” |  | |  |
| Cargiant site on 17:56 - Apr 17 with 2673 views | dutch |
| Cargiant site on 14:07 - Apr 17 by hubble |
I love how seriously we're all taking this - but then again, why not? The CG site really does represent the best - and possibly last - opportunity for us to relocate within the borough. I just hope the board are reading this site (I'm sure they are), so they can gauge the feeling of the fans and get some great ideas along the way.
Regarding the OOC depot which seems to be contentious; don't forget that there will be an extensive road and pedestrian redevelopment of the area as part of the OOC station - paid for out of the public purse - so that will seriously improve accessibility to the CG site. If you haven't checked out the plans for OOC, it's worth a look: https://www.hs2.org.uk/buildin
Also it would be possible to join Hythe Road (which currently runs from Scrubs Lane through the CG site into the Powerday site), to Old Oak Lane, by bridging over the narrow railway section there, rather than having to go anywhere near the depot. There is also a footbridge (Salter Street Alleyway) that links the site to Willesden Junction, which could easily be upgraded, and even be converted into a road bridge, linking Station Approach to Hythe Road, which would also provide another or alternative road link to Old Oak Lane. There are other options too, and whoever develops this site will be radically transforming the road access.
People saying transport won't be good are, I think, basing that on the current situation; it will be dramatically different once OOC is finished, with, as I said before, the best transport links in the whole country.
The thing is, we have no idea if the board are considering this. If they're not, this whole thread is moot! If they are, then it looks like the majority on here are in favour of relocation to the CG site. |
The best transport links in the whole country? Sorry, better than Loftus Road with four tube stations within a strolling distance, plus all the busses, plus overground. Nonsense. [Post edited 17 Apr 19:18]
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| Cargiant site on 18:21 - Apr 17 with 2567 views | daveB |
| Cargiant site on 14:22 - Apr 17 by hubble |
Where do you suggest then Dave? |
My preference would be to redevelop Loftus Road. They missed the boat in Shepherds Bush with multiple pieces of land ignored for many years whilst they chased pipe dreams. |  | | |
| Cargiant site on 19:19 - Apr 17 with 2391 views | mart_Goblin |
| Cargiant site on 14:43 - Apr 17 by TK1 |
Good research and post.
I am a huge sceptic, obviously, not so much of either getting a new ground or not redeveloping what we have, which is far more possible than the club allow fans to know about: there is without question a long campaign of managed decline at LR, everywhere is impossible to maintain or update other than those areas used by the directors and guests...
But mainly allowing this particular board the chance to pull this trigger after more than a decade of clownshow business.
An absentee owner/majority share holder who hasn't communicated with fans in over two years and rarely comes to matches; an American business man who has *never* communicated with fans; Lee Hoos who retired from his role of CEO when the DOF fell on his sword, apparently to return home, only to suddenly become Chairman; Amit Bhatia, who has had a good go of it, left his role, but stayed on the board for some reason (we may be seeing the reason); and Nourry, the fall guy and man of very forked tongue who allows all these others to move so mysteriously behind him...
I don't think they deserve it. I do not trust them to do it well. They just haven't earned it yet, baby.
However, I believe it is definitely in discussion, is in motion, is central to Project Big Ben and the Car Giant announcement is just further negotiations, I am sure. I imagine the £100m can be halved at least.
You're right about the transport and access stuff. It is somewhat reassuring, even if like me you do not believe public finances over the next couple of years will allow anything like it. |
Ok, I’ll bite .
You have more than hinted 2 or 3 times that the club are keeping from us how easy it will be to renovate / re build / improve / enlarge Loftus Road ?
It’s no different to player ITK’s although some on here pick and chose who they scold for it .
So can you divulge how you know this and what these developments are?
This is a passionate and difficult subject with various opinions, so reading different facts and ideas are really essential for all of us to consider and balance .
At the moment it’s either “we have to move” or “we should just re develop LR”.
I don’t want to move so if we could stay and redevelop it would be the best of both worlds .
But as Ned said way back in this thread, surely they or someone prior would have done it by now.
You can’t go wider,on any side, you can’t go higher ,you can’t go lower .
Please explain how we do this and not cut the capacity or LR? |  | | |
| Cargiant site on 19:23 - Apr 17 with 2378 views | dutch |
| Cargiant site on 19:19 - Apr 17 by mart_Goblin |
Ok, I’ll bite .
You have more than hinted 2 or 3 times that the club are keeping from us how easy it will be to renovate / re build / improve / enlarge Loftus Road ?
It’s no different to player ITK’s although some on here pick and chose who they scold for it .
So can you divulge how you know this and what these developments are?
This is a passionate and difficult subject with various opinions, so reading different facts and ideas are really essential for all of us to consider and balance .
At the moment it’s either “we have to move” or “we should just re develop LR”.
I don’t want to move so if we could stay and redevelop it would be the best of both worlds .
But as Ned said way back in this thread, surely they or someone prior would have done it by now.
You can’t go wider,on any side, you can’t go higher ,you can’t go lower .
Please explain how we do this and not cut the capacity or LR? |
Cantilevered out over South Africa Road. Cantilevered back over Loftus Road. Steeper rake over Ellerslie. Remove offices to another site and use that space for hospitality. Won't be dramatically bigger but we don't need dramatically bigger. | | | |
| Cargiant site on 19:56 - Apr 17 with 2298 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Cargiant site on 19:23 - Apr 17 by dutch |
Cantilevered out over South Africa Road. Cantilevered back over Loftus Road. Steeper rake over Ellerslie. Remove offices to another site and use that space for hospitality. Won't be dramatically bigger but we don't need dramatically bigger. |
Cantilevered stands would require a lot of planning approval and would generate a lot of residential objections. Can’t see how that could possibly work and the owners could’ve started the process well over a decade ago if they’d wanted to do it.
I’m more than happy to see out my remaining decades at LR as it is but think a move is more likely. |  | | |
| Cargiant site on 20:04 - Apr 17 with 2278 views | QPRConor2000 |
| Cargiant site on 19:23 - Apr 17 by dutch |
Cantilevered out over South Africa Road. Cantilevered back over Loftus Road. Steeper rake over Ellerslie. Remove offices to another site and use that space for hospitality. Won't be dramatically bigger but we don't need dramatically bigger. |
Look we can sit here and debate putting stands over roads etc, but the reality is that Loftus Road is only going to get more expensive to run and we cant accept that anymore.
Loftus Road has been an incredible home for us for well over a century, but the reality is that we lose money due to the fact we cant open it for more than 23 games a season so we do need to move, as much as it will be hard for all of us on here to accept.
A move to the Cargiant site would be a generational opportunity for us to develop a ground that we can all be proud of. We can take the elements of what makes LR great and make it a part of a new, modern ground. You also have the potential to create fanzones as well, something we dont have at Loftus Road.
Also the transport links around there will improve too, it is expected that Old Old Common Station will open to GWR and Elizabeth Line trains from 2028/2029 and you also have Willesden Junction next door as well which is a 20 min walk and there is suggestions of a new Overground station too on Hythe Road. So it could have the potential to be the most connected stadium in the country.
Developing a new 25k-30k stadium with the ability to host non footballing events like concerts, conferences and other events for the community could be transformational for our finances.
The reality is that we as a football club need to keep with the times, we cant afford to be complacent to sentimental value, we have to move on.
Do we accept the status quo or do we build for the future? | | | |
| Cargiant site on 20:17 - Apr 17 with 2241 views | hubble |
| Cargiant site on 17:56 - Apr 17 by dutch |
The best transport links in the whole country? Sorry, better than Loftus Road with four tube stations within a strolling distance, plus all the busses, plus overground. Nonsense. [Post edited 17 Apr 19:18]
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| Cargiant site on 20:17 - Apr 17 with 2246 views | TK1 |
| Cargiant site on 19:19 - Apr 17 by mart_Goblin |
Ok, I’ll bite .
You have more than hinted 2 or 3 times that the club are keeping from us how easy it will be to renovate / re build / improve / enlarge Loftus Road ?
It’s no different to player ITK’s although some on here pick and chose who they scold for it .
So can you divulge how you know this and what these developments are?
This is a passionate and difficult subject with various opinions, so reading different facts and ideas are really essential for all of us to consider and balance .
At the moment it’s either “we have to move” or “we should just re develop LR”.
I don’t want to move so if we could stay and redevelop it would be the best of both worlds .
But as Ned said way back in this thread, surely they or someone prior would have done it by now.
You can’t go wider,on any side, you can’t go higher ,you can’t go lower .
Please explain how we do this and not cut the capacity or LR? |
You're right, it's poor to hint. But all I can say is I know people who have seen plans. I don't necessarily think the club are keeping things from anyone because why would they announce an idea, there's nothing to press release, but they are not keen on sharing minor info at the best of time - and they definitely learnt their lesson by announcing the previous stadium in 2014 on the Car Giant site, ironically.
I don't think it would be easy to redevelop LR, far from it. But it's easier than impossible, which is all I was trying to say. And no less likely to run into problems or disasters than building a new ground at Car Giant in the midst of that long delayed HS2 development, selling this off, and so forth. | | | |
| Cargiant site on 20:17 - Apr 17 with 2246 views | dutch |
| Cargiant site on 20:04 - Apr 17 by QPRConor2000 |
Look we can sit here and debate putting stands over roads etc, but the reality is that Loftus Road is only going to get more expensive to run and we cant accept that anymore.
Loftus Road has been an incredible home for us for well over a century, but the reality is that we lose money due to the fact we cant open it for more than 23 games a season so we do need to move, as much as it will be hard for all of us on here to accept.
A move to the Cargiant site would be a generational opportunity for us to develop a ground that we can all be proud of. We can take the elements of what makes LR great and make it a part of a new, modern ground. You also have the potential to create fanzones as well, something we dont have at Loftus Road.
Also the transport links around there will improve too, it is expected that Old Old Common Station will open to GWR and Elizabeth Line trains from 2028/2029 and you also have Willesden Junction next door as well which is a 20 min walk and there is suggestions of a new Overground station too on Hythe Road. So it could have the potential to be the most connected stadium in the country.
Developing a new 25k-30k stadium with the ability to host non footballing events like concerts, conferences and other events for the community could be transformational for our finances.
The reality is that we as a football club need to keep with the times, we cant afford to be complacent to sentimental value, we have to move on.
Do we accept the status quo or do we build for the future? |
The status quo is getting better for us every year. Our USP is increasingly unique in a world of bland stadia in faceless environs in god forsaken settings. Our cave is increasingly the equivalent of a cute cottage compared to identikit flats. Boutique even. [Post edited 17 Apr 20:17]
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| Cargiant site on 20:52 - Apr 17 with 2163 views | QPRConor2000 |
| Cargiant site on 20:17 - Apr 17 by dutch |
The status quo is getting better for us every year. Our USP is increasingly unique in a world of bland stadia in faceless environs in god forsaken settings. Our cave is increasingly the equivalent of a cute cottage compared to identikit flats. Boutique even. [Post edited 17 Apr 20:17]
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Weve got to move beyond sentimental value.
Loftus Road has been an incredible home, but the reality is that we lose money by being there.
The fact its costing £1m alone to redo the PA system demonstrates why its expensive to stay at Loftus Road.
As much as it will be very emotional for a lot of us, we have to keep with the times and sadly our options for expansion at LR are close to impossible. | | | |
| Cargiant site on 20:57 - Apr 17 with 2141 views | Tonto |
| Cargiant site on 17:56 - Apr 17 by dutch |
The best transport links in the whole country? Sorry, better than Loftus Road with four tube stations within a strolling distance, plus all the busses, plus overground. Nonsense. [Post edited 17 Apr 19:18]
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Sorry Dutch but he is right.
OOC will have links to HS2, Lizzy Line, plus Wiilsden Junction has Bakerloo plus 2 overground lines. Both stations would be within the "strolling distance" the 4 stations but only 3 lines LR has.
There is a measure us transport planners use. Passenger transport accessibilty level or PTAL. OOC site varies from 4s and 3s (max is 6) and the odd bit of the site is 2 (currently) but will be improved once the new station is completed and would probably go up to 4s and 5s. For comparision, LR is currently 4, but what PTAL doesnt count is the options for travle, it counts a station as a station. As i said above the options would be much greater as rhere would.be more lines.
I accept Willesden Junction is crap, but there are some plans to improve that, and QPR would need to contribute towards that. |  |
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| Cargiant site on 21:23 - Apr 17 with 2053 views | BostonR |
| Cargiant site on 12:13 - Apr 17 by Northernr |
Which is why that train depot is an issue. |
Clive - how much longer should we expect Ruben to write out a £22M cheque pa? His benevolence is beyond reproach. At some point the magic money tree has to stop “flowering”.
This is an opportunity for him to turn that unwavering financial support into something meaningful. I know the site reasonably well and most architects will have a work around. Plus the investment opportunities are off the scale.
I’d be amazed if the Board are not all over this. |  | | |
| Cargiant site on 21:58 - Apr 17 with 1925 views | Hoopsie |
| Cargiant site on 16:22 - Apr 17 by TK1 |
Conference suites, function venues, seminars? Ohh yeah! Come on You Rs!
Worth noting:
Bolton Wanderers' Toughsheet (I am not making this up) Stadium, boasts "over 50 different conference rooms with the ability to host up to 3000 people in some suites," plus an onsite hotel and all that malarky...
Bolton Wanderers posted losses of £14million for last season in L1 only a couple weeks ago.
Meanwhile, Reading's Select Car Leasing Stadium - sexy club, sexy stadium - has a hotel built into it, overlooking the pitch. They also have "the largest conference facility in The Thames Valley". Cor!
Reading FC's total debt is £130m and they operate under a transfer embargo in L1. Despite those magnificent conference suites, revenue was down in the last accounts by 2% to just £9m (for comparison, QPR in their not-fit-for purpose conference-free stadium was £28m, a 9% increase). Reading's biggest income was a sell-on for Olise of £9m and he left three years ago.
Buy good players, develop, sell for more. Hire fewer budding analysts and rubbish £2m strikers from East Europe you've barely scouted. This will make more money than 10k conferences every year.
QPR fans should reject tired old Lee Hoos talking points when considering the future of the club. (If he'd had his way, no rail standing, no full Loft, no SB stand and plenty more misery). |
But a serious point, who goes Bolton or Reading for a conference? Who stays in a stadium hotel in Bolton or Reading?
But London is different. West London. Especially a site that is a transport hub, near Heathrow and probably house more residents than the population of Bolton and Reading put together.
Last point is a joke, but OOC is not in the middle of nowhere
Perhaps if the New Queens Park/Loftus/New Loftus Road stadium is built there conference rooms and a hotel are precisely the facilities that are needed. Throw in a Tesco/Sainsbury and a multi storied basement car park (in honouring our former sponsor Cargiant whom we buy the site from) under the stadium that could be a commercial cash cow for use outside match days - I would opine parking is premium these days in London. See we can genuinely dig down! [Post edited 17 Apr 22:07]
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| Cargiant site on 22:07 - Apr 17 with 1884 views | Northernr |
| Cargiant site on 21:23 - Apr 17 by BostonR |
Clive - how much longer should we expect Ruben to write out a £22M cheque pa? His benevolence is beyond reproach. At some point the magic money tree has to stop “flowering”.
This is an opportunity for him to turn that unwavering financial support into something meaningful. I know the site reasonably well and most architects will have a work around. Plus the investment opportunities are off the scale.
I’d be amazed if the Board are not all over this. |
Well it depends what you mean by something meaningful?
Acquire the land for £100m, build a load of flats, sell those on for profit, with a football ground in the middle? I get it, though the outlay is extortionate - as said higher up, Palace £200m for a stand, Everton £800m for a stadium.
Or are we saying that outlaying all of that to build a ground for QPR at OOC makes us a money making machine? Or even a break even machine? Because the facts don't back it up. All the clubs in new stadiums lose money. All the clubs (bar four of them) with Premier League money last year lost money. Bolton, Reading, lose money every bit as quick as we do. |  | | |
| Cargiant site on 22:26 - Apr 17 with 1835 views | ted_hendrix |
| Cargiant site on 21:58 - Apr 17 by Hoopsie |
But a serious point, who goes Bolton or Reading for a conference? Who stays in a stadium hotel in Bolton or Reading?
But London is different. West London. Especially a site that is a transport hub, near Heathrow and probably house more residents than the population of Bolton and Reading put together.
Last point is a joke, but OOC is not in the middle of nowhere
Perhaps if the New Queens Park/Loftus/New Loftus Road stadium is built there conference rooms and a hotel are precisely the facilities that are needed. Throw in a Tesco/Sainsbury and a multi storied basement car park (in honouring our former sponsor Cargiant whom we buy the site from) under the stadium that could be a commercial cash cow for use outside match days - I would opine parking is premium these days in London. See we can genuinely dig down! [Post edited 17 Apr 22:07]
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**But a serious point, who goes Bolton or Reading for a conference?**
My construction Company built the stadium hotel at the Madjeski, It was my responsibility to Manage the hand over and any defects that appeared In the first 12 Months, you'd be surprised how busy It was, not madly busy but It was aways a bloody nuisance getting back into rooms to attend to defects because of room occupations.
The conference rooms never seemed to be so busy although we had nothing to do with them.
They were bloody difficult clients to work with/for.
They put us on the tender list for the new training ground but thankfully we sent the bill of quantities back to them without quoting as we didnt want anything more to do with them. [Post edited 17 Apr 22:29]
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| Cargiant site on 22:27 - Apr 17 with 1838 views | TwoHalves |
| Cargiant site on 17:48 - Apr 17 by BristolR |
Swiss Reuben, got a certain ring to it
“Building a new football stadium is a bit like making love to a beautiful woman…” |
A point sadly lost on the architects of the New Den. | | | |
| Cargiant site on 22:29 - Apr 17 with 1823 views | KensalT |
| Cargiant site on 22:07 - Apr 17 by Northernr |
Well it depends what you mean by something meaningful?
Acquire the land for £100m, build a load of flats, sell those on for profit, with a football ground in the middle? I get it, though the outlay is extortionate - as said higher up, Palace £200m for a stand, Everton £800m for a stadium.
Or are we saying that outlaying all of that to build a ground for QPR at OOC makes us a money making machine? Or even a break even machine? Because the facts don't back it up. All the clubs in new stadiums lose money. All the clubs (bar four of them) with Premier League money last year lost money. Bolton, Reading, lose money every bit as quick as we do. |
Bolton and Reading aren't sitting next to one of (when it's up and running) the biggest transport interchanges in the country.
A stadium at Old Oak with high speed links stretching from Essex to the West Midlands, and Willesden Junction just a short hop to Clapham Junction and connections to the south of England gives you potentially a massive catchment area for events. And I haven't even mentioned Heathrow just down the road.
It would be a cracking location for a stadium - with associated hotel and conference facilities.
But that's not to say it would be right for QPR.
And the location is going to have such good transport links that it would probably be a great location for many other types of business. Not that West London needs another Westfield.
It is a great location but I don't see QPR pulling together the finance to get a stadium built there. The only way it might work is if Ruben and friends built the stadium and maybe rented it to QPR on match days on a long term lease the way West Ham do with the London Stadium.
Let me put it another way. If Chelsea weren't tied to Stamford Bridge I think they would move heaven and earth to get their hands on Old Oak. [Post edited 17 Apr 22:35]
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| Cargiant site on 22:34 - Apr 17 with 1806 views | Hoopsie |
AI overview in google:
Based on 2024–2026 market projections for stadium construction in London, building a new 30,000-capacity football-only stadium in Old Oak Common (W12) would likely cost between £300 million and £500 million+, potentially reaching higher due to high land costs and logistical challenges in West London
As of April 2026, the current Loftus Road stadium is valued between £50 million and £64 million in the context of recent investment sales pitches
Cargiant site is 30 acres - asking around £100 million
Loftus Road is 4.5 acres
Oakland’s Rise development (featuring 605 new homes) is 4.5 acres - £175 million. QPR is joint-venture
If the new stadium is generously twice as big (4.5 x 2 =9 acres) housing 30,000 capacity, the land left for residential could cater for about 2500-2800 new homes (based on Oaklands Rise density)
Viable? | |
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| Cargiant site on 22:35 - Apr 17 with 1805 views | Northernr |
| Cargiant site on 22:34 - Apr 17 by Hoopsie |
AI overview in google:
Based on 2024–2026 market projections for stadium construction in London, building a new 30,000-capacity football-only stadium in Old Oak Common (W12) would likely cost between £300 million and £500 million+, potentially reaching higher due to high land costs and logistical challenges in West London
As of April 2026, the current Loftus Road stadium is valued between £50 million and £64 million in the context of recent investment sales pitches
Cargiant site is 30 acres - asking around £100 million
Loftus Road is 4.5 acres
Oakland’s Rise development (featuring 605 new homes) is 4.5 acres - £175 million. QPR is joint-venture
If the new stadium is generously twice as big (4.5 x 2 =9 acres) housing 30,000 capacity, the land left for residential could cater for about 2500-2800 new homes (based on Oaklands Rise density)
Viable? |
Is that the same AI that can’t count Paul Smyth goals? | | | |
| Cargiant site on 22:36 - Apr 17 with 1802 views | derbyhoop |
As much as there is a sentimental attachment to LR, surely almost everybody accepts that it has major downsides. To reiterate, size of site, lack of capacity, inability to earn on non match days, leg room, catering, maintenance costs, LBHF obstructions or legitimate concerns (you choose). In my view, we are going to have to move at some stage of we have ambitions of being.more than a Championship/L1 side.
The problems of finding any suitable site in West London have been well documented and the costs of constructing a stadium in London is going to be expensive.
A new stadium is not going to be panacea, as those who have done that has had mixed outcomes. As things stand OOC is far from ideal. Given what else is happening in the area, its current status is not going to remain that far into the future. Let me use Derby's Pride Park as an example. It was 1 of the first buildings on a derelict set of railway sidings. Today, it is the showpiece in a thriving industrial and commercial park. This includes bars and restaurants, all of which are new.
I have grave reservations about using the standard, soulless bowl like the Madejski, Riverside, Leicester,etc.. we have to retain many of the characteristics that make LR so unique.
I hope that summarises the arguments, for and against. I'm going to make that my last word on this thread. |  |
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| Cargiant site on 22:39 - Apr 17 with 1795 views | PunteR |
| Cargiant site on 22:07 - Apr 17 by Northernr |
Well it depends what you mean by something meaningful?
Acquire the land for £100m, build a load of flats, sell those on for profit, with a football ground in the middle? I get it, though the outlay is extortionate - as said higher up, Palace £200m for a stand, Everton £800m for a stadium.
Or are we saying that outlaying all of that to build a ground for QPR at OOC makes us a money making machine? Or even a break even machine? Because the facts don't back it up. All the clubs in new stadiums lose money. All the clubs (bar four of them) with Premier League money last year lost money. Bolton, Reading, lose money every bit as quick as we do. |
This goes back to earlier, that a new stadium doesn't necessarily improve a club. Plenty of evidence to back that up. |  |
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| Cargiant site on 22:42 - Apr 17 with 1784 views | kensalriser |
| Cargiant site on 15:57 - Apr 17 by hubble |
Haha, I think I did! But we do seem to differ on what constitutes Park Royal if you think it includes OOC; as far as I am aware, the eastern boundary of PR is Park Royal Road/Acton Lane... a modest, but significant 1.5km away from the CG site!
Edit: and most significantly of all, Park Royal is not in the borough of Hammersmith & Fulham!
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Controversial geography there! I might have to concede that Old Oak and the area bordered by the canal, Scrubs Lane and Station Rd isn't Park Royal, but everything west of Victoria Rd definitely is and maybe up to Old Oak Common Lane.
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| Cargiant site on 22:43 - Apr 17 with 1774 views | Hoopsie |
| Cargiant site on 22:35 - Apr 17 by Northernr |
Is that the same AI that can’t count Paul Smyth goals? |
Google AI query:
how many goals did paul smyth scored for QPR in the league this season 2025-26
Answer:
As of April 18, 2026, Paul Smyth has scored 6 goals for Queens Park Rangers in the 2025-26 EFL Championship league season.
Is that correct. Can it count?
In deploying AI like google, ChatGPT or glok, ask the right questions if you want the right answers. | |
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| Cargiant site on 22:45 - Apr 17 with 1767 views | Northernr |
| Cargiant site on 22:43 - Apr 17 by Hoopsie |
Google AI query:
how many goals did paul smyth scored for QPR in the league this season 2025-26
Answer:
As of April 18, 2026, Paul Smyth has scored 6 goals for Queens Park Rangers in the 2025-26 EFL Championship league season.
Is that correct. Can it count?
In deploying AI like google, ChatGPT or glok, ask the right questions if you want the right answers. |
Chat GPT repeatedly got it wrong when I asked it the same question, despite me telling it twice it had got it wrong and to try again. | | | |
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